-
The Golden Verses of Pythagoras
- Narrated by: Manly Hall
- Length: 1 hr and 34 mins
Failed to add items
Add to Cart failed.
Add to Wish List failed.
Remove from wishlist failed.
Adding to library failed
Follow podcast failed
Unfollow podcast failed
![Prime logo](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/G/01/Audible/Homestead/Prime_Logo_RGB.png)
Get 2 free audiobooks during trial.
Buy for $8.57
No default payment method selected.
We are sorry. We are not allowed to sell this product with the selected payment method
Listeners also enjoyed...
-
The Life and Philosophy of Pythagoras: Esoteric Classics
- By: Manly P. Hall
- Narrated by: Robin Haynes
- Length: 43 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
Esoteric scholar Manly P. Hall gives a brief biography of the life of the fabled Greek philosopher, Pythagoras, as well as accounts of how he was murdered. He gives a fantastic overview of the teachings of that man. Hall covers his theories of transmigration, symmetrical solids, aphorisms, astronomy, and many other things, as well as what he expected of his students and accounts of his school and initiations.
-
-
Here we go again!
- By Amazon Customer on 05-04-20
By: Manly P. Hall
-
The Magnetic Fields of the Human Body and Their Functions
- By: Manly Hall
- Narrated by: Manly Hall
- Length: 1 hr and 14 mins
- Original Recording
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
These never-before-released lectures are considered by the thousands who have heard them to be profound and illuminating. Originally released by the Philosophical Research Society, Better Listen! is pleased to make available to the wider public a series of very special edition audio recordings from Manly P. Hall.
-
-
Good Plainspoken Common Sense Wisdom
- By Kindle Customer on 09-22-23
By: Manly Hall
-
The Secret Teachings of All Ages
- Complete Edition | (Hermetic Tradition)
- By: Manly P. Hall
- Narrated by: Anthony Starks
- Length: 35 hrs and 3 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
Manly P. Hall was a noted Canadian author and mystic. He is most famous for The Secret Teaching of All Ages. It is a marvelous collection of writings on ancient mysteries, secret societies, alchemy, and more.
-
-
Great info - distracting mispronunciation
- By Lauren on 07-03-21
By: Manly P. Hall
-
The Secret Teachings of All Ages
- An Encyclopedic Outline of Masonic, Hermetic, Qabbalistic and Rosicrucian Symbolical Philosophy
- By: Manly Hall
- Narrated by: Adriel Brandt
- Length: 28 hrs and 30 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
Manly Palmer Hall (1901-1990) was a Canadian-born author, lecturer, astrologer, and mystic. The Secret Teachings of All Ages is a comprehensive compendium of the ancient occult and esoteric traditions of the world.
-
-
An Absolute Travesty of a Great Work
- By averageconsumer on 05-01-21
By: Manly Hall
-
The Occult Anatomy of Man
- By: Manly P. Hall
- Narrated by: Joseph Kent
- Length: 1 hr and 19 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
Believing that philosophy is a working tool to help the individual in building a solid foundation for his dreams and purposes, Manly Hall steadfastly sought recognition of the belief that world civilization can be perfected only when human beings meet on a common ground of intelligence, cooperation, and worthy purpose. Through this book you have the ability to personally expand the knowledge with wisdom and understanding.
-
-
Deep as Atlantis
- By Kindle Customer on 05-10-22
By: Manly P. Hall
-
The Secret Destiny of America
- By: Manly P. Hall
- Narrated by: Chris Matthew
- Length: 3 hrs and 26 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
From the author of the landmark Secret Teachings of All Ages comes two classic works on the mysterious origins and unique mission of America: The Secret Destiny of America and America’s Assignment with Destiny. Focusing on often-forgotten moments in history, Manley P. Hall proposes that there was a Great Plan put forth 1,000 years before our nation’s founding: Humanistic and mystical organizations wished for the continent to be the location for an experiment in self-government and religious freedom.
-
-
Many recording issues!!
- By Natalie B on 03-15-22
By: Manly P. Hall
-
The Life and Philosophy of Pythagoras: Esoteric Classics
- By: Manly P. Hall
- Narrated by: Robin Haynes
- Length: 43 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
Esoteric scholar Manly P. Hall gives a brief biography of the life of the fabled Greek philosopher, Pythagoras, as well as accounts of how he was murdered. He gives a fantastic overview of the teachings of that man. Hall covers his theories of transmigration, symmetrical solids, aphorisms, astronomy, and many other things, as well as what he expected of his students and accounts of his school and initiations.
-
-
Here we go again!
- By Amazon Customer on 05-04-20
By: Manly P. Hall
-
The Magnetic Fields of the Human Body and Their Functions
- By: Manly Hall
- Narrated by: Manly Hall
- Length: 1 hr and 14 mins
- Original Recording
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
These never-before-released lectures are considered by the thousands who have heard them to be profound and illuminating. Originally released by the Philosophical Research Society, Better Listen! is pleased to make available to the wider public a series of very special edition audio recordings from Manly P. Hall.
-
-
Good Plainspoken Common Sense Wisdom
- By Kindle Customer on 09-22-23
By: Manly Hall
-
The Secret Teachings of All Ages
- Complete Edition | (Hermetic Tradition)
- By: Manly P. Hall
- Narrated by: Anthony Starks
- Length: 35 hrs and 3 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
Manly P. Hall was a noted Canadian author and mystic. He is most famous for The Secret Teaching of All Ages. It is a marvelous collection of writings on ancient mysteries, secret societies, alchemy, and more.
-
-
Great info - distracting mispronunciation
- By Lauren on 07-03-21
By: Manly P. Hall
-
The Secret Teachings of All Ages
- An Encyclopedic Outline of Masonic, Hermetic, Qabbalistic and Rosicrucian Symbolical Philosophy
- By: Manly Hall
- Narrated by: Adriel Brandt
- Length: 28 hrs and 30 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
Manly Palmer Hall (1901-1990) was a Canadian-born author, lecturer, astrologer, and mystic. The Secret Teachings of All Ages is a comprehensive compendium of the ancient occult and esoteric traditions of the world.
-
-
An Absolute Travesty of a Great Work
- By averageconsumer on 05-01-21
By: Manly Hall
-
The Occult Anatomy of Man
- By: Manly P. Hall
- Narrated by: Joseph Kent
- Length: 1 hr and 19 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
Believing that philosophy is a working tool to help the individual in building a solid foundation for his dreams and purposes, Manly Hall steadfastly sought recognition of the belief that world civilization can be perfected only when human beings meet on a common ground of intelligence, cooperation, and worthy purpose. Through this book you have the ability to personally expand the knowledge with wisdom and understanding.
-
-
Deep as Atlantis
- By Kindle Customer on 05-10-22
By: Manly P. Hall
-
The Secret Destiny of America
- By: Manly P. Hall
- Narrated by: Chris Matthew
- Length: 3 hrs and 26 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
From the author of the landmark Secret Teachings of All Ages comes two classic works on the mysterious origins and unique mission of America: The Secret Destiny of America and America’s Assignment with Destiny. Focusing on often-forgotten moments in history, Manley P. Hall proposes that there was a Great Plan put forth 1,000 years before our nation’s founding: Humanistic and mystical organizations wished for the continent to be the location for an experiment in self-government and religious freedom.
-
-
Many recording issues!!
- By Natalie B on 03-15-22
By: Manly P. Hall
-
The Life of Pythagoras
- By: Iamblichus
- Narrated by: Philip D. Moore
- Length: 4 hrs and 43 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
Iamblichus' famous biography of Pythagoras, which has been republished by the MSAC Philosophy Group. Details the interesting life narrative of the one of the great thinkers in the early Greek world.
-
-
Most Important of All Philosophy Books
- By University Headmaster on 01-16-18
By: Iamblichus
-
Magic
- A Treatise on Natural Occultism
- By: Manly P. Hall
- Narrated by: Bobby Brill
- Length: 1 hr and 32 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
In this short work by the noted lecturer and mystic, Manly P. Hall explores the differences between black and white magic, guiding fellow occultists away from those practices which damage the spirit and lead to the loss of the soul. An essential part of any occultist's library.
-
-
Great for helping understand how important intentions are
- By Pablo on 05-20-23
By: Manly P. Hall
-
The Convoluted Universe: Book One
- By: Dolores Cannon
- Narrated by: Randal Schaffer, Cherise Knapp
- Length: 21 hrs and 59 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
The Convoluted Universe: Book One is the sequel to The Custodians. This book contains some of the more complicated concepts in metaphysics that Dolores Cannon discovered through 20 years of using deep hypnosis to explore the subconscious mind. This audiobook is intended for those listeners who want their minds expanded by the more complicated metaphysical ideas that border on quantum physics.
-
-
a masterpiece, not for overly indoctrinated
- By jabari jackson on 11-08-19
By: Dolores Cannon
-
The Secret History of America
- Classic Writings on Our Nation's Unknown Past and Inner Purpose
- By: Manly P. Hall, Mitch Horowitz - editor
- Narrated by: Mitch Horowitz
- Length: 8 hrs and 30 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
Writer and scholar Manly P. Hall (1901-1990) is one of the most significant names in the study of the esoteric, symbolic, and occult. His legendary book The Secret Teachings of All Ages has been an underground classic since its publication in 1928. The Secret History of America expands on that legacy, offering a collection of Hall’s works - from books and journals to transcriptions of his lectures - all relating to the hidden past and unfolding future of our nation.
-
-
Interesting history.
- By Rudy F. Ochoa on 05-11-20
By: Manly P. Hall, and others
-
The Kybalion
- A Study of Hermetic Philosophy of Ancient Egypt and Greece
- By: The Three Intiates
- Narrated by: Mitch Horowitz
- Length: 4 hrs and 6 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
He was the father of the occult, the founder of astrology, the discoverer of alchemy. He was Hermes Trismegistus, and as the scribe of the gods of ancient Egypt, he possessed all divine knowledge... which he passed on to humanity, though only those who have been tutored in its wonders can fully understand it.In this extraordinary 1912 book, three secret initiates to his teachings - who remain anonymous to this day - share their insight with all who seek to understand the mysterious underpinnings of the universe and our relationship with it.
-
-
Big bites of ancient (now age?) wisdom to chew on
- By Diana on 07-24-14
-
The Emerald Tablets of Thoth the Atlantean
- By: M. Doreal
- Narrated by: John Marino
- Length: 2 hrs and 33 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
The history of the tablets translated in the following book is strange and beyond the belief of modern scientists. Their antiquity is stupendous, dating back some 36,000 years. The writer is Thoth, an Atlantean Priest-King, who founded a colony in ancient Egypt after the sinking of the mother country. He was the builder of the Great Pyramid of Giza, erroneously attributed to Cheops. In it he incorporated his knowledge of the ancient wisdom and also securely secreted records and instruments of ancient Atlantis.
-
-
Excellence...
- By Light Worker on 04-21-18
By: M. Doreal
Publisher's summary
These never-before-released lectures are considered by the thousands who have heard them to be profound and illuminating. Originally released by the Philosophical Research Society, Better Listen! is pleased to make available to the wider public a series of very special edition audio recordings from Manly P. Hall.
About the author: Manly P. Hall (1901-1990) founded the Philosophical Research Society, Inc., a nonprofit organization in 1935, dedicated to the dissemination of useful knowledge in the fields of philosophy, comparative religion, and psychology. In his long career, spanning more than 70 years of dynamic public activity, Mr. Hall delivered more than 8,000 lectures worldwide and authored more than 150 books and essays and countless magazine articles.
More from the same
Related to this topic
-
The Art of War
- By: Sun Tzu
- Narrated by: Aidan Gillen
- Length: 1 hr and 7 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
The 13 chapters of The Art of War, each devoted to one aspect of warfare, were compiled by the high-ranking Chinese military general, strategist, and philosopher Sun-Tzu. In spite of its battlefield specificity, The Art of War has found new life in the modern age, with leaders in fields as wide and far-reaching as world politics, human psychology, and corporate strategy finding valuable insight in its timeworn words.
-
-
The actual book The Art of War, not a commentary
- By Fred271 on 12-31-19
By: Sun Tzu
-
Fingerprints of the Gods
- The Quest Continues
- By: Graham Hancock
- Narrated by: Graham Hancock
- Length: 18 hrs and 31 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
Fingerprints of the Gods is the revolutionary rewrite of history that has persuaded millions of listeners throughout the world to change their preconceptions about the history behind modern society. An intellectual detective story, this unique history audiobook directs probing questions at orthodox history, presenting disturbing new evidence that historians have tried - but failed - to explain.
-
-
Classic in Historical Mysteries
- By Kelly on 09-05-19
By: Graham Hancock
-
Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World
- By: Jack Weatherford
- Narrated by: Jonathan Davis, Jack Weatherford
- Length: 14 hrs and 20 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
The Mongol army led by Genghis Khan subjugated more lands and people in 25 years than the Romans did in 400. In nearly every country the Mongols conquered, they brought an unprecedented rise in cultural communication, expanded trade, and a blossoming of civilization.
-
-
Golden Horde/Platinum Listen
- By Cynthia on 12-11-13
By: Jack Weatherford
-
D-Day Revisited: The Invasion of Normandy
- By: John McManus, The Great Courses
- Narrated by: John McManus
- Length: 2 hrs and 48 mins
- Original Recording
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
World War II is the defining conflict of the 20th century, one that created a line in the sands of history dividing the pre-war and post-war eras. In this epoch-defining conflict lies another definitive moment: the invasion of a 50-mile stretch of coast in Normandy, France, on June 6, 1944. This battle, also known as D-Day, was the pivot point of the war in Europe. Its success led to a nearly yearlong, bloody campaign that saw the liberation of France, Luxembourg, Belgium, and the Netherlands, followed by the final defeat of Hitler’s Third Reich.
-
-
Poor narration
- By Carrie Sandler on 06-23-24
By: John McManus, and others
-
Napoleon's Hemorrhoids…And Other Small Events That Changed History
- By: Phil Mason
- Narrated by: LJ Ganser
- Length: 8 hrs and 13 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
Hilarious, fascinating, and a roller coaster of dizzying, historical what-ifs, Napoleon's Hemorrhoids is a potpourri for serious historians and casual history buffs. In one of Phil Mason's many revelations, you'll learn that Communist jets were two minutes away from opening fire on American planes during the Cuban missile crisis, when they had to turn back as they were running out of fuel. You'll discover that before the Battle of Waterloo, Napoleon's painful hemorrhoids prevented him from mounting his horse to survey the battlefield.
-
-
They just throw the facts too fast
- By Concerned_llama on 12-11-20
By: Phil Mason
-
Made in America
- By: Bill Bryson
- Narrated by: William Roberts
- Length: 18 hrs and 10 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
In Made in America, Bryson de-mythologizes his native land, explaining how a dusty hamlet with neither woods nor holly became Hollywood, how the Wild West wasn't won, why Americans say 'lootenant' and 'Toosday', how Americans were eating junk food long before the word itself was cooked up, as well as exposing the true origins of the G-string, the original $64,000 question, and Dr Kellogg of cornflakes fame.
-
-
Bryson Not Reading Makes For a Rare Fail
- By John on 02-28-14
By: Bill Bryson
-
The Art of War
- By: Sun Tzu
- Narrated by: Aidan Gillen
- Length: 1 hr and 7 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
The 13 chapters of The Art of War, each devoted to one aspect of warfare, were compiled by the high-ranking Chinese military general, strategist, and philosopher Sun-Tzu. In spite of its battlefield specificity, The Art of War has found new life in the modern age, with leaders in fields as wide and far-reaching as world politics, human psychology, and corporate strategy finding valuable insight in its timeworn words.
-
-
The actual book The Art of War, not a commentary
- By Fred271 on 12-31-19
By: Sun Tzu
-
Fingerprints of the Gods
- The Quest Continues
- By: Graham Hancock
- Narrated by: Graham Hancock
- Length: 18 hrs and 31 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
Fingerprints of the Gods is the revolutionary rewrite of history that has persuaded millions of listeners throughout the world to change their preconceptions about the history behind modern society. An intellectual detective story, this unique history audiobook directs probing questions at orthodox history, presenting disturbing new evidence that historians have tried - but failed - to explain.
-
-
Classic in Historical Mysteries
- By Kelly on 09-05-19
By: Graham Hancock
-
Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World
- By: Jack Weatherford
- Narrated by: Jonathan Davis, Jack Weatherford
- Length: 14 hrs and 20 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
The Mongol army led by Genghis Khan subjugated more lands and people in 25 years than the Romans did in 400. In nearly every country the Mongols conquered, they brought an unprecedented rise in cultural communication, expanded trade, and a blossoming of civilization.
-
-
Golden Horde/Platinum Listen
- By Cynthia on 12-11-13
By: Jack Weatherford
-
D-Day Revisited: The Invasion of Normandy
- By: John McManus, The Great Courses
- Narrated by: John McManus
- Length: 2 hrs and 48 mins
- Original Recording
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
World War II is the defining conflict of the 20th century, one that created a line in the sands of history dividing the pre-war and post-war eras. In this epoch-defining conflict lies another definitive moment: the invasion of a 50-mile stretch of coast in Normandy, France, on June 6, 1944. This battle, also known as D-Day, was the pivot point of the war in Europe. Its success led to a nearly yearlong, bloody campaign that saw the liberation of France, Luxembourg, Belgium, and the Netherlands, followed by the final defeat of Hitler’s Third Reich.
-
-
Poor narration
- By Carrie Sandler on 06-23-24
By: John McManus, and others
-
Napoleon's Hemorrhoids…And Other Small Events That Changed History
- By: Phil Mason
- Narrated by: LJ Ganser
- Length: 8 hrs and 13 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
Hilarious, fascinating, and a roller coaster of dizzying, historical what-ifs, Napoleon's Hemorrhoids is a potpourri for serious historians and casual history buffs. In one of Phil Mason's many revelations, you'll learn that Communist jets were two minutes away from opening fire on American planes during the Cuban missile crisis, when they had to turn back as they were running out of fuel. You'll discover that before the Battle of Waterloo, Napoleon's painful hemorrhoids prevented him from mounting his horse to survey the battlefield.
-
-
They just throw the facts too fast
- By Concerned_llama on 12-11-20
By: Phil Mason
-
Made in America
- By: Bill Bryson
- Narrated by: William Roberts
- Length: 18 hrs and 10 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
In Made in America, Bryson de-mythologizes his native land, explaining how a dusty hamlet with neither woods nor holly became Hollywood, how the Wild West wasn't won, why Americans say 'lootenant' and 'Toosday', how Americans were eating junk food long before the word itself was cooked up, as well as exposing the true origins of the G-string, the original $64,000 question, and Dr Kellogg of cornflakes fame.
-
-
Bryson Not Reading Makes For a Rare Fail
- By John on 02-28-14
By: Bill Bryson
-
The Autobiography of Malcolm X
- As Told to Alex Haley
- By: Malcolm X, Alex Haley
- Narrated by: Laurence Fishburne
- Length: 16 hrs and 52 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
Experience a bold take on this classic autobiography as it’s performed by Oscar-nominated Laurence Fishburne. In this searing classic autobiography, originally published in 1965, Malcolm X, the Muslim leader, firebrand, and Black empowerment activist, tells the extraordinary story of his life and the growth of the Human Rights movement. His fascinating perspective on the lies and limitations of the American dream and the inherent racism in a society that denies its non-White citizens the opportunity to dream, gives extraordinary insight into the most urgent issues of our own time.
-
-
Audible Masterpiece
- By Phoenician on 09-10-20
By: Malcolm X, and others
-
The Emerald Tablets of Thoth the Atlantean
- By: M. Doreal
- Narrated by: John Marino
- Length: 2 hrs and 33 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
The history of the tablets translated in the following book is strange and beyond the belief of modern scientists. Their antiquity is stupendous, dating back some 36,000 years. The writer is Thoth, an Atlantean Priest-King, who founded a colony in ancient Egypt after the sinking of the mother country. He was the builder of the Great Pyramid of Giza, erroneously attributed to Cheops. In it he incorporated his knowledge of the ancient wisdom and also securely secreted records and instruments of ancient Atlantis.
-
-
Excellence...
- By Light Worker on 04-21-18
By: M. Doreal
-
The Adventures of the Mountain Men
- True Tales of Hunting, Trapping, Fighting, and Survival
- By: Stephen Brennan
- Narrated by: Kevin Stillwell
- Length: 12 hrs and 17 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
The “mountain men” were the hunters and trappers who fiercely strode the Rocky Mountains in the early to mid-1800s. They braved the elements in search of the skins of beavers and other wild animals, to sell or barter for goods. The lifestyle of the mountain men could be harsh, existing as they did among animals, and spending most of their days and nights living and camping out in the great unexplored wilds of the Rockies.
-
-
Good for boys
- By Mrs. C on 05-12-14
By: Stephen Brennan
-
The Rise of Rome
- By: The Great Courses, Gregory S. Aldrete
- Narrated by: Gregory S. Aldrete
- Length: 12 hrs and 16 mins
- Original Recording
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
The Roman Republic is one of the most breathtaking civilizations in world history. Between roughly 500 BCE to the turn of the millennium, a modest city-state developed an innovative system of government and expanded into far-flung territories across Europe, Northern Africa, and the Middle East. This powerful civilization inspired America's founding fathers, gifted us a blueprint for amazing engineering innovations, left a vital trove of myths, and has inspired the human imagination for 2,000 years.
-
-
Very good, but doesn't stand out
- By Christopher on 02-08-18
By: The Great Courses, and others
-
Mythology: Mega Collection
- Classic Stories from the Greek, Celtic, Norse, Japanese, Hindu, Chinese, Mesopotamian and Egyptian Mythology
- By: Scott Lewis
- Narrated by: Madison Niederhauser, Oliver Hunt
- Length: 31 hrs and 37 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
Do you know how many wives Zeus had? Or how the famous Trojan War was caused by one beautiful lady? Or how Thor got his hammer? Give your imagination a real treat. This Mega Mythology Collection of eight audiobooks is for you....
-
-
An interesting set of introductions.
- By Kevin Potter on 05-30-19
By: Scott Lewis
-
Helter Skelter
- The True Story of the Manson Murders
- By: Vincent Bugliosi, Curt Gentry
- Narrated by: Scott Brick
- Length: 26 hrs and 29 mins
- Unabridged
-
Overall
-
Performance
-
Story
Prosecuting attorney in the Manson trial Vincent Bugliosi held a unique insider's position in one of the most baffling and horrifying cases of the 20th century: the cold-blooded Tate-LaBianca murders carried out by Charles Manson and four of his followers. What motivated Manson in his seemingly mindless selection of victims, and what was his hold over the young women who obeyed his orders? Now available for the first time in unabridged audio, the gripping story of this famous and haunting crime is brought to life by acclaimed narrator Scott Brick.
-
-
Everything I remembered about the case was wrong..
- By karen on 06-22-12
By: Vincent Bugliosi, and others