The Not-So-Intelligent Designer
Why Evolution Explains the Human Body and Intelligent Design Does Not
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Seth Andrews
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Abby Hafer
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Why do men's testicles hang outside the body? Why does our appendix sometimes explode and kill us? And who does the Designer like better, anyway--us or squid? These and other questions are addressed in The Not-So-Intelligent Designer: Why Evolution Explains the Human Body and Intelligent Design Does Not.
Dr. Abby Hafer argues that the human body has many faulty design features that would never have been the choice of an intelligent creator.
She also points out that there are other animals that got better body parts, which makes the Designer look a bit strange; discusses the history and politics of Intelligent Design and creationism; reveals animals that shouldn't exist according to Intelligent Design; and disposes of the idea of irreducible complexity.
Her points are illustrated with wit and erudition.
Dr. Abby Hafer has a doctorate in zoology from Oxford University. She is a Senior Lecturer who teaches human anatomy and physiology at Curry College.
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The Old Testament is a fierce battleground for atheists and Christian apologists, with each side accusing the other of taking challenging and troubling passages out of context. In this handbook, Joshua Bowen not only provides the background to the Old Testament and the ancient Near East, but engages with hotly contested topics like slavery, failed prophecy, and the authorship of debated Old Testament books.
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Very informative with beautiful narration
- By Frank Rizzo on 07-07-21
By: Joshua Bowen
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We of Little Faith
- Why I Stopped Pretending to Believe (and Maybe You Should Too)
- By: Kate Cohen
- Narrated by: Kate Cohen
- Length: 8 hrs and 7 mins
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Even though a growing number of Americans don’t believe in god, many remain reluctant to say so out loud. Kate Cohen argues that not only is it rewarding for those of little faith to announce themselves, it’s crucial to our country’s future. As she details the challenges and joys of fully embracing atheism—especially as a parent—Washington Post contributing columnist Kate Cohen does not dismiss religion as dangerous or silly. Instead, she investigates religion’s appeal in order to explain the ways we can thrive without it.
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Honest, gently forthright, and very much needed
- By Rosencrantz Jones on 10-09-23
By: Kate Cohen
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Deconverted
- A Journey from Religion to Reason
- By: Seth Andrews
- Narrated by: Seth Andrews
- Length: 5 hrs and 7 mins
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A former religious radio host raised in the cradle of Christianity, Seth Andrews, battled his own doubts for many years. His attempts to reconcile faith and the facts led him to a conclusion previously unthinkable, and this once-true believer ultimately became host of one of the most popular atheist communities on the internet.
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A very good primer from one who knows the game.
- By Mark on 02-19-13
By: Seth Andrews
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The Atheist Handbook to the Old Testament: Volume 2
- By: Joshua Bowen
- Narrated by: Seth Andrews
- Length: 14 hrs and 39 mins
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Following up on the first volume, The Atheist Handbook to the Old Testament: Volume 2 takes up the challenge of providing a clear and useful guide to those wanting a better understanding of the Old Testament, including its cultural and historical background, as well as discussions on contentious topics like violence and genocide, and whether the Exodus was a real historical event. Volume two also covers the narrative of the Old Testament, from the conquest to the divided monarchy, and a brief history of Egypt to help situate the biblical text within agreed historical events.
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Excellent critical approach to the Bible
- By Jacob Kilgore on 01-07-24
By: Joshua Bowen
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Christianity Made Me Talk Like an Idiot
- By: Seth Andrews
- Narrated by: Seth Andrews
- Length: 6 hrs and 57 mins
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Seth Andrews wasn't an idiot during his 30 years as an evangelical Christian. He wasn't unintelligent, nor did his IQ shift when he ultimately left religion entirely. He considered himself thoughtful, moral, reasonable, and at least as smart as the average person. In other words, he wasn't an idiot. Yet strangely, he often sounded like one.
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Resonates with any ex-evangelical!
- By Jeremy Gregg on 12-05-22
By: Seth Andrews
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Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism
- By: Aron Ra
- Narrated by: Aron Ra
- Length: 16 hrs and 55 mins
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Religious fundamentalists and biblical literalists present any number of arguments that attempt to disprove evolution. Those with a sympathetic ear often fail to critically examine these creationist claims, leading to an ill-informed public and, perhaps more troubling, ill-advised public policy. As Aron Ra makes clear, however, every single argument deployed by creationists in their attacks on evolution is founded on fundamental scientific, religious, and historical falsehoods - all of them.
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A fantastic listen!
- By Ms. Gray on 11-06-16
By: Aron Ra
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The Atheist Handbook to the Old Testament, Volume 1
- By: Joshua Bowen
- Narrated by: Seth Andrews
- Length: 11 hrs and 39 mins
- Unabridged
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The Old Testament is a fierce battleground for atheists and Christian apologists, with each side accusing the other of taking challenging and troubling passages out of context. In this handbook, Joshua Bowen not only provides the background to the Old Testament and the ancient Near East, but engages with hotly contested topics like slavery, failed prophecy, and the authorship of debated Old Testament books.
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Very informative with beautiful narration
- By Frank Rizzo on 07-07-21
By: Joshua Bowen
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We of Little Faith
- Why I Stopped Pretending to Believe (and Maybe You Should Too)
- By: Kate Cohen
- Narrated by: Kate Cohen
- Length: 8 hrs and 7 mins
- Unabridged
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Even though a growing number of Americans don’t believe in god, many remain reluctant to say so out loud. Kate Cohen argues that not only is it rewarding for those of little faith to announce themselves, it’s crucial to our country’s future. As she details the challenges and joys of fully embracing atheism—especially as a parent—Washington Post contributing columnist Kate Cohen does not dismiss religion as dangerous or silly. Instead, she investigates religion’s appeal in order to explain the ways we can thrive without it.
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Honest, gently forthright, and very much needed
- By Rosencrantz Jones on 10-09-23
By: Kate Cohen
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Deconverted
- A Journey from Religion to Reason
- By: Seth Andrews
- Narrated by: Seth Andrews
- Length: 5 hrs and 7 mins
- Unabridged
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A former religious radio host raised in the cradle of Christianity, Seth Andrews, battled his own doubts for many years. His attempts to reconcile faith and the facts led him to a conclusion previously unthinkable, and this once-true believer ultimately became host of one of the most popular atheist communities on the internet.
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A very good primer from one who knows the game.
- By Mark on 02-19-13
By: Seth Andrews
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The Atheist Handbook to the Old Testament: Volume 2
- By: Joshua Bowen
- Narrated by: Seth Andrews
- Length: 14 hrs and 39 mins
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Following up on the first volume, The Atheist Handbook to the Old Testament: Volume 2 takes up the challenge of providing a clear and useful guide to those wanting a better understanding of the Old Testament, including its cultural and historical background, as well as discussions on contentious topics like violence and genocide, and whether the Exodus was a real historical event. Volume two also covers the narrative of the Old Testament, from the conquest to the divided monarchy, and a brief history of Egypt to help situate the biblical text within agreed historical events.
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Excellent critical approach to the Bible
- By Jacob Kilgore on 01-07-24
By: Joshua Bowen
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Confessions of a Former Fox News Christian
- By: Seth Andrews
- Narrated by: Seth Andrews
- Length: 7 hrs and 37 mins
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Seth Andrews idolized Rush Limbaugh. He listened to Glenn Beck. He read Ann Coulter. He watched Fox News. He was an evangelical Christian once tethered to right-wing media, which constantly warned of an attack on American values by liberals and secular humanists. Today, Seth is a liberal and secular humanist. This audiobook explores the Fox News culture, which both reflects and informs American conservatism, shaping public opinion on important issues like religion, government, race, foreign policy, war, protest, LGBT rights, and the Constitution.
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Great perspective
- By Jasin Crauthamel on 08-28-20
By: Seth Andrews
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Godless
- How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists
- By: Dan Barker, Richard Dawkins - foreword
- Narrated by: Richard Dawkins, Dan Barker
- Length: 19 hrs and 26 mins
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Part 1 of Godless, "Rejecting God", tells the story of how I moved from devout preacher to atheist and beyond. Part 2, "Why I Am an Atheist", presents my philosophical reasons for unbelief. Part 3, "What's Wrong with Christianity", critiques the bible (its reliability as well as its morality) and the historical evidence for Jesus. Part 4, "Life Is Good!", comes back to my personal story, taking a case to the United States Supreme Court, dealing with personal trauma, and experiencing the excitement of Adventures in Atheism.
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good writing, irritating narration
- By Amazon Customer on 03-23-16
By: Dan Barker, and others
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Outgrowing God
- A Beginner's Guide
- By: Richard Dawkins
- Narrated by: Richard Dawkins
- Length: 6 hrs and 38 mins
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In 12 fiercely funny, mind-expanding chapters, Dawkins explains how the natural world arose without a designer - the improbability and beauty of the "bottom-up programming" that engineers an embryo or a flock of starlings - and challenges head-on some of the most basic assumptions made by the world’s religions: Do you believe in God? Which one? Is the Bible a "Good Book"? Is adhering to a religion necessary, or even likely, to make people good to one another? Outgrowing God is a concise, provocative guide to thinking for yourself.
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No new ground is covered.
- By God(less) on 11-05-19
By: Richard Dawkins
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Sacred Cows
- A Lighthearted Look at Belief and Tradition Around the World
- By: Seth Andrews
- Narrated by: Seth Andrews
- Length: 5 hrs and 4 mins
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Well into the 21st century, our species continues to participate in beliefs and customs that seem more suited to the Bronze Age than the Information Age, some of which involve poisonous snakes, holy smoke, urine bubbles, crystals, tarot cards, aliens, costumed virgins, and, of course, an offering plate. Join Seth Andrews for a random romp across the planet and a humorous look at some of humanity's Sacred Cows.
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Seth is changing the world!
- By Aperson on 07-19-15
By: Seth Andrews
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Speaking of God: We Don't Know Sh*t
- A Former Minister Reflects on God and Religion
- By: David Ramsey
- Narrated by: Brian Telestai
- Length: 2 hrs and 48 mins
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This personal story about a spiritual journey away from Christianity is an honest examination of what we can know about God. Popular religious beliefs and practices are challenged, with potential new information for those who may be questioning their faith. After formal academic study of religion, Baptist minister David Ramsey became agnostic and left the ministry altogether. In this book, he shares how his search for truth led to personal doubts about the foundation of Christianity, the resurrection of Jesus, and eventually the very existence of God.
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This is a raw story.
- By Lisa on 07-29-22
By: David Ramsey
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On This Day in History Sh!t Went Down
- By: James Fell
- Narrated by: Kelli Tager, James Fell
- Length: 17 hrs and 28 mins
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Nazis are bad. The worst kind of bad. There are no very fine people among them. If you disagree, you won’t like this book. Still here? Cool. You are about to receive an education unlike any you’ve previously experienced. In this uproarious and informative tour from ancient times to the modern day and everything in between, James Fell, the self-proclaimed “sweary historian,” reveals a past replete with deeds both noble and despicable. Throughout the book, he provides insightful analysis of all the sh!t that went down. Behold!
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Rad.
- By Christine C. Keiser on 11-21-23
By: James Fell
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The New Testament
- By: Bart D. Ehrman, The Great Courses
- Narrated by: Bart D. Ehrman
- Length: 12 hrs and 27 mins
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Whether taken as a book of faith or a cultural artifact, the New Testament is among the most significant writings the world has ever known, its web of meaning relied upon by virtually every major writer in the last 2,000 years. Yet the New Testament is not only one of Western civilization’s most believed books, but also one of its most widely disputed, often maligned, and least clearly understood, with a vast number of people unaware of how it was written and transmitted.
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If you want a balanced overview this is not it
- By Amazon Customer on 02-27-16
By: Bart D. Ehrman, and others
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All That's Wrong with the Bible
- Contradictions, Absurdities, and More
- By: Jonah David Conner
- Narrated by: James R. Cheatham
- Length: 3 hrs and 56 mins
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Written by a linguist, ex-fundamentalist graduate of Liberty University, this book goes straight to the evidence and presents a concise case-by-case analysis of the most salient problems in the Christian Scriptures. With insightful commentary concerning frequent rebuttals used by apologists, it makes a solid case against evangelical claims to inerrancy.
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Connor is Not Great
- By Tahoe on 03-28-24
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Atheist Universe
- The Thinking Person's Answer to Christian Fundamentalism
- By: David Mills
- Narrated by: David Smalley
- Length: 9 hrs and 9 mins
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Is there really a God? Or does God exist only in our heads? Is the Bible truly God's Word? Or is it a jumble of fanciful myths? Atheist Universe details why God is unnecessary to explain the universe's diversity, organization, and beauty. Using simple, straightforward logic, this audiobook rebuts every argument that claims to "prove" God's existence.
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Science trumps magical thinking
- By Gary on 04-28-15
By: David Mills
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God
- The Most Unpleasant Character in All Fiction
- By: Dan Barker
- Narrated by: Dan Barker, Richard Dawkins, Buzz Kemper
- Length: 15 hrs and 26 mins
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Originally conceived as a joint presentation between influential thinker and best-selling author Richard Dawkins and former evangelical preacher Dan Barker, this unique book provides an investigation into what may be the most unpleasant character in all fiction. Barker combs through both the Old and New Testaments (as well as 13 different editions of the "Good Book"), presenting powerful evidence for why Scripture shouldn't govern our everyday lives.
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good, but not recommended for bible-aware atheists
- By Jared on 10-15-16
By: Dan Barker
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God
- An Anatomy
- By: Francesca Stavrakopoulou
- Narrated by: Francesca Stavrakopoulou
- Length: 15 hrs and 56 mins
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The scholarship of theology and religion teaches us that the God of the Bible was without a body, only revealing himself in the Old Testament in words mysteriously uttered through his prophets, and in the New Testament in the body of Christ. The portrayal of God as corporeal and masculine is seen as merely metaphorical, figurative, or poetic. But, in this revelatory study, Francesca Stavrakopoulou presents a vividly corporeal image of God: a human-shaped deity who walks and talks and weeps and laughs, who eats, sleeps, feels, and breathes, and who is undeniably male.
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GREAT READ!!
- By Chester Johnson on 04-27-23
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The Founding Myth
- Why Christian Nationalism Is Un-American
- By: Andrew L. Seidel, Susan Jacoby - Foreword
- Narrated by: Christopher Grove
- Length: 12 hrs and 58 mins
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Do "In God We Trust", the Declaration of Independence, and other historical "evidence" prove that America was founded on Judeo-Christian principles? Are the Ten Commandments the basis for American law? A constitutional attorney dives into the debate about religion's role in America's founding.
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Just 2 Issues
- By VIPER G on 09-01-19
By: Andrew L. Seidel, and others
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- P. Moon
- 11-24-24
Presently informative.
Well written and presented in a way that's acceptable to most non-science trained readers. You could tell Seth Andrews enjoyed reading the book as there were more than a few impromptu chuck les in his narrative.
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- Scott A. Gaines
- 05-24-24
Thank you, Abby! Great narration, Seth!
Nobody narrates a book quite like Seth Andrews!
Abby, this book was like a 'Greatest Hits' album of all your presentations and interviews on YouTube. Awesome job!
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- Daniel Lachance
- 10-19-24
A necessary compilation by Dr Hafer.
Although the illusions of design is strong, some things are not as they seem at first. The sun doesn’t go around the Earth to give us night and day. We evolved. We were not created.
The likelihood of a creator having to do with our existence is remote. When someone with an open mind to observation, thinks about it. What fits is that we evolved by means of mutations and selection by nature of the better suited for reproduction and survival over millions of generations.
Well done.
The voice of Seth Andrews is a wonderful choice. He gives wonderful intonations and emotions. I really wish he would give his voice many more books.
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- M. Henry
- 12-24-23
For Anyone who grew up like me
Excellent discussion, easy to listen to and enjoyable. All the details on Intelligent Design were helpful. My only complaint and not worthy of any less stars, but Abby clearly has a bias against ID and Creationism. While she’s right that these belief systems have no merit in Science, proving them wrong doesn’t automatically mean there isn’t a higher power or an intelligent designer. Evolution is an amazing system, exciting that natural processes can make us. And, we hope make things all across this universe. If we are honest, there are many things we still can’t explain (look at the Quantum World), and we clearly aren’t in a binary world anymore. Even though ID and Creationists have such fault ideas shouldn’t assume that there wasn’t an intelligent design.
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- Jason A Worden
- 01-07-24
Eye Opening
Well we ain’t as perfect as we are lead to believe… life is amazing yes but to believe we are a creation of a perfect being is a stretch don’t believe me just listen… great narration by the always awesome Seth Andrews!
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- Amazon Customer
- 08-09-24
Very Informative
I think this book is very informal and has a lot of important information that can help change the perspective of how we view life
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- Jordan Burton
- 08-16-24
Some interesting points, but an obnoxious tone
I really wanted to like this book. And, to her credit, Dr. Hafer makes some very solid points, and provides interesting and compelling biological examples in her attacks on intelligent design. This book definitely added to my arsenal of biological counterarguments to ID.
Unfortunately, the book is painful to read due to the snarky, spiteful, condescending tone throughout. She seems unable to make her points like a detached, objective scientist. Almost every point is combined with an insult, an ad hominem attack, or a gross overstatement about the devious intentions of her opponents.
It’s as if a Richard Dawkins book was rewritten by a Fox News host. Scientists should be the ones elevating the debate. Let’s take the high road!
On a related note…I find any counterargument to be most compelling when it pays respect to the integrity of the opponent’s argument. Dr. Hafer repeatedly and noticeably mischaracterizes the nature of the “irreducible complexity” argument for ID. I fully agree that there are no clear examples of irreducible complexity in nature. But her “cutting off the head” analogy makes me question whether she really understands what is meant by irreducible complexity.
Finally, the book is unnecessarily long. There are many chapters, like the one on scurvy, in which the same point is made multiple times, using very similar language. I began to wonder whether my audible app was stuck in a loop, but it wasn’t.
My vote? Skip this book. There are many books on this subject that contain equally compelling points and examples, but without the pettiness.
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- Little Dipper
- 07-01-24
Interesting, but...
it gets extremely repetitive. You could take a drink every time you hear "BAD DESIGN" and be flat out drunk within the hour. It's too bad that lots of great information gets lost in overexplanation or is only touched upon so quickly that you wonder why it was included at all.
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