The Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club
Naval Aviation in the Vietnam War
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This book tells the full story of the US Naval air campaign during the Vietnam War between 1965 to 1975, where the US Seventh Fleet, stationed off the Vietnamese coast, was given the tongue-in-cheek nickname 'The Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club'.
On August 2, 1964, USS Maddox became embroiled in the infamous 'Gulf of Tonkin incident’ that lead directly to America's increased involvement in the Vietnam War. Supporting the Maddox that day were four F-8E Crusaders from the USS Ticonderoga, signalling the start of the US Navy’s commitment to the air war over Vietnam.
The Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club was the nickname for the US Navy’s Seventh Fleet, Task Force 77, stationed off the coast of Vietnam which, at various points throughout the war, comprised as many as six carriers with 70–100 aircraft on board. The Seventh Fleet played an essential role in supporting operations over Vietnam, providing vital air support to combat troops on the ground and taking part in major operations such as Rolling Thunder and Linebacker I and II.
Serving with the US Seventh Fleet during this period and involved in the dramatic history of The Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club was author Tom Cleaver, who was a 20-year-old member of Commander Patrol Forces Seventh Fleet which had operational control over Maddox and Turner Joy. His use of dramatic first-hand experiences from interviews with both American and Vietnamese pilots plus official Vietnamese accounts of the war provides a balanced and personal picture of the conflict from both sides. Detailing the very earliest incident in the Gulf of Tonkin through to the final evacuation of US nationals in 1975, he brings the story of US air intervention into Vietnam vividly to life.©2021 Thomas McKelvey Cleaver (P)2021 Bloomsbury Publishing Plc
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Strategy and reality collide in Peter Fey's gripping history of aircraft carrier USS Oriskany's three deployments to Vietnam with Carrier Air Wing 16 (CVW-16). Its tours coincided with the most dangerous phases of Operation Rolling Thunder, the ill-fated bombing campaign against North Vietnam, and accounted for a quarter of all the naval aircraft lost during Rolling Thunder. The Johnson administration's policy of gradually applied force meant that Oriskany arrived on station just as previous restrictions were lifted and bombing raids increased.
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Great Listen!
- By MeathookWX on 09-21-18
By: Peter Fey
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On Wave and Wing
- The 100 Year Quest to Perfect the Aircraft Carrier
- By: Barrett Tillman
- Narrated by: Peter Berkrot
- Length: 9 hrs and 18 mins
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What defended the US after the attack on Pearl Harbor, defeated the Soviet Union in the Cold War, and is an essential tool in the fight against terror? Aircraft carriers. For 70 years, these ships remained a little-understood cornerstone of American power. In his latest book, On Wave and Wing, Barrett Tillman sheds light on the history of these floating leviathans and offers a nuanced analysis of the largest man-made vessel in the history of the world.
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100th Anniversary of the Aircraft Carrier
- By Jean on 08-05-17
By: Barrett Tillman
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Silent Warriors, Incredible Courage
- The Declassified Stories of Cold War Reconnaissance Flights and the Men Who Flew Them
- By: Wolfgang W. E. Samuel
- Narrated by: Wayne M. Lane
- Length: 10 hrs and 29 mins
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Silent Warriors, Incredible Courage is a history of the Cold War overflights of the Soviet Union, its allies, and the People's Republic of China, based on extensive interviews with dozens of pilots who flew these dangerous missions. Through extensive research of existing literature on the overflights and interviews conducted by Wolfgang W. E. Samuel, this audiobook reveals the story of the entire overflight program through the eyes of the pilots and crew who flew the planes.
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Worst Narration Ever
- By Nathan Hoag on 04-09-21
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Harrier 809
- The Epic Story of How a Small Band of Heroes Won Victory in the Air Against Impossible Odds
- By: Rowland White
- Narrated by: Roy McMillan
- Length: 14 hrs and 47 mins
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April 1982. Argentina invades the Falkland Islands. In response, Britain dispatches a naval Task Force. Eight thousand miles from home, its fate hinges on just 20 Sea Harrier fighters against the 200-strong might of the Argentine Air Force. Combining groundbreaking research with the pace of a thriller, Rowland White reveals the full story of the fleet's knife-edge fight for survival for the first time, and shows how the little jump jet went from airshow novelty to writing its name in aviation legend. And of how a small band of heroes won victory against impossible odds.
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Fast paced thriller
- By J.Brock on 01-28-22
By: Rowland White
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Whirlwind
- The Air War Against Japan, 1942-1945
- By: Barrett Tillman
- Narrated by: Mel Foster
- Length: 11 hrs and 12 mins
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Whirlwind is the only book to examine in depth the human drama behind the most important bombing campaign in history. While the air war against Nazi Germany has been covered in-depth by many books, Barrett Tillman, a renowned authority on military aircraft and the air war in the Pacific, is the first to tackle the air war against Japan. For decades, historians and politicians have debated whether or not Japan was on the verge of surrender in August 1945---before the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
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Good, but ultimately disappointing
- By Michael on 10-16-10
By: Barrett Tillman
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Fighter Group
- The 352nd “Blue-Nosed Bastards” in World War II
- By: Lt. Col. Jay A. Stout
- Narrated by: Donald Corren
- Length: 17 hrs and 12 mins
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Jay A. Stout breaks new ground in World War II history with this gripping account of one of the war’s most highly decorated American fighter groups. Stout combines the storytelling gifts and careful research for a seasoned historian with the combat experience of a former fighter pilot to tell the remarkable story of the 352nd Fighter Group. This isn’t just the story of a single fighter group; it’s the story of how the United States won the air war over Europe.
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This is a fantastic, through, in depth, and personal history of the 352nd fighter group.
- By S. H. Moore on 02-23-21
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Pacific Crucible: War at Sea in the Pacific, 1941-1942
- By: Ian W. Toll
- Narrated by: Grover Gardner
- Length: 22 hrs and 6 mins
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On the first Sunday in December 1941, an armada of Japanese warplanes appeared suddenly over Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, and devastated the U.S. Pacific Fleet. Six months later, in a sea fight north of the tiny atoll of Midway, four Japanese aircraft carriers were sent into the abyss. Pacific Crucible tells the epic tale of these first searing months of the Pacific war, when the U.S. Navy shook off the worst defeat in American military history and seized the strategic initiative.
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Astonishingly good.
- By Mike From Mesa on 09-01-12
By: Ian W. Toll
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Operation Vengeance
- The Astonishing Aerial Ambush That Changed World War II
- By: Dan Hampton
- Narrated by: John Pruden
- Length: 11 hrs and 39 mins
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In 1943, the United States military began to plan one of the most dramatic secret missions of World War II. Its code name was Operation Vengeance. Naval Intelligence had intercepted the itinerary of Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, the commander in chief of the Japanese Combined Fleet, whose stealth attack on Pearl Harbor precipitated America’s entry into the war. Harvard-educated, Yamamoto was a close confidant of Emperor Hirohito and a brilliant tactician who epitomized Japanese military might.
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I want 1/2 my money back
- By DPM on 08-11-20
By: Dan Hampton
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The Cactus Air Force
- Air War Over Guadalcanal
- By: Eric Hammel, Thomas McKelvey Cleaver
- Narrated by: Adam Henderson
- Length: 14 hrs and 40 mins
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In The Cactus Air Force, Pacific War expert Thomas McKelvey Cleaver worked closely with Eric to build on his collection of diary entries, interviews and first-hand accounts to create a vivid narrative of the struggle in the air over the island of Guadalcanal between August 20 and November 15, 1942.
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Excellent Book!
- By Eric Peterson on 09-16-22
By: Eric Hammel, and others
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The Fighting Corsairs
- The Men of Marine Fighting Squadron 215 in the Pacific during WWII
- By: Jeff Dacus
- Narrated by: Jim Seybert
- Length: 9 hrs and 44 mins
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From historian and columnist in Leatherneck and Armor magazines, this is the exciting, personal account of a marine fighter squadron in the South Pacific during the critical days of 1943, when the tide turned against the Japanese. Based on individual interviews and wartime documents, this is a thrilling narrative of the marines who lived, and died, during the toughest battles of the entire war.
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The Fighting Corsairs
- By Thomas S. Connelly on 05-10-21
By: Jeff Dacus
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Wade McClusky and the Battle of Midway
- By: David Rigby
- Narrated by: David Stifel
- Length: 11 hrs and 40 mins
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The story of the man who won the battle of Midway and avenged Pearl Harbor for the United States. During the Battle of Midway in June 1942, US Navy dive bomber pilot Wade McClusky proved himself to be one of the greatest pilots and combat leaders in American history, but his story has never been told - until now.
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This biographer is obsessed
- By J. S. Harbour on 05-17-20
By: David Rigby
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The Men Who Killed the Luftwaffe
- The U.S. Army Air Forces Against Germany in World War II
- By: Jay A. Stout
- Narrated by: Paul Woodson
- Length: 15 hrs and 35 mins
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In this dramatic story of World War II, Jay A. Stout describes how the US built an air force of 2.3 million men after starting with 45,000 and defeated the world's best air force. In order to defeat Germany in World War II, the Allies needed to destroy the Third Reich's industry and invade its territory, but before they could effectively do either, they had to defeat the Luftwaffe, whose state-of-the-art aircraft and experienced pilots protected German industry and would batter any attempted invasion.
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A must read for WWII buffs
- By david on 07-27-17
By: Jay A. Stout
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How Carriers Fought
- Carrier Operations in WWII
- By: Lars Celander
- Narrated by: Sean Runnette
- Length: 11 hrs and 23 mins
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In November 1921, the first purpose-built aircraft carrier was launched by the Japanese, followed a year later by the launch of the British Hermes. The conversion of battle cruisers into aircraft carriers after World War I required the consideration of issues including handling aircraft on the flight deck and the techniques of attacking enemy ships, and the evolution of carrier operations was ongoing when World War II broke out.
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Interesting but not mandatory
- By Thor Olson on 08-29-19
By: Lars Celander
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Desert Storm Fighter Action
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FINALLY A Pilot Tells it Like it is!!
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- rent house guy
- 03-09-22
amazing research
this book covers all the fixed wing operations in Vietnam. he did amazing research.
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- Danny
- 12-16-22
Good book
The book was very good, but his next book should about the Reagan Navy from 1981 to 1989. How we learned no lessons from Vietnam and did everything wrong again.
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- E. Ronakov
- 12-31-22
Excellent
Well researched and incredibly thorough. McKelvey Cleaver paints an incredible picture of naval aviation in Vietnam. A must read for any amateur historian or student of history.
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- Avid Reader
- 01-02-22
Excellent but exhausting
I wish I could give the book 5 stars for the section after chapter 4, three stars in the section before, and four stars for the narration. The first four chapters are an exhaustingly detailed narrative about the development of aircraft, engines, and some politics. It does go into the original golf of Tonkin incident and explains the complexity of what happened then. The first four chapters go into such detail about designations of each engine iteration and identification that it should’ve just all been a gigantic appendix. You have to listen through interminable levels of minutia, which you could skim in a printed version, but you don’t know how far to jump ahead in the audio version. After that the book gets quite interesting, at least for me because I was interested more in the flying and the carrier war than in the development of each jet engine and letter by letter development of airframes in the Korean War.
The rest of the book goes into great detail about the flying, the aircraft, the politics and the overall course of the naval aviation war in Vietnam. This was all quite fascinating, and again intensely detailed but compelling.
The narration drove me crazy in the first four chapters because the narrator down speaks at the end of most sentences. This narration became tedious to listento because it sounded so repetitive, although this was in part due to the content. When the narrator got into these chapters after chapter 4 his narration changed and became more dynamic which changed listening to the book for the better.
Overall I recommend it, and I have read other books by Cleaver about WWII carrier aviation which were first rare.
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- Thomas R. King
- 02-10-23
Great read
Great as I was on the Coral Sea at this time and was in all the actions from 72 till76
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- Doggie
- 10-21-22
Tonkin Gulf
I have enjoyed listening to this book and I believe that you will enjoy it too
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- Ross Gordon
- 11-22-21
Facinating Account of the Air War in Vietnam
I couldn't put it down. This is a very well written and comprehensively researched history of the US involvement in the Vietnam "Conflict".
EXCELLENT!
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- Robert
- 02-22-23
Good for Aviation and History Enthusiasts
This book covers the US Naval Aviation in Vietnam from a number it angles. It follows the technical evolution of the aircraft and weapons, the tactics used, as well as an almost play by play account of major events in the war. I’m an aviation fan and learned some new info out of it so I like it in that regard. I think it could have benefited by going a little deeper in some areas.
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- J H
- 04-24-23
Full of information
This is a really good listen. Packed full of information about Naval Aviation in Vietnam. The only thing I didn't like is the way the narrator handled certain acronyms. Like RIO, would be said "Ree-Oh" in conversation but the narrator would spell it out each time. Otherwise it was really good.
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- Kevin Warren
- 01-11-22
Tired drivel
What a load of insufferable drivel. I Stopped before the end of the third chapter where the author posses the rhetorical question, after saying subliminal racism whatever that is exactly was behind the bombings in Asia, “Would we have undertaken our bombing policy if the enemy were white?” The answer is yes we would have. Does the author not remember how many Germans burned to death in multi thousand ship bombings raids in Europe? The difference is the Germans surrendered. Dehumanization of the enemy is something everyone does. The Vietnamese called the Americans apes. So what? It’s not the basic cause of policy, “subliminal” “unconscious” or otherwise.
The author asserts the reason North Korea won’t come to terms with the West is because we killed so many north Korean citizens. That’s it, apparently.
The author states that Kennedy was a victim of McCarthy and red baiting and implies that he was powerless to not act against North Viet Nam. I think he’s read too much Halberstam.
Book looked promising and I suspect there’s good technical content but I couldn’t stand the nonsensical assertions any longer.
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