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For the Palestinians who live in the narrow coastal strip of Gaza, the Israeli invasion of December 2008 was a nightmare of unimaginable proportions: In the 22-day-long action, 1,400 Gazans were killed, several hundred on the first day alone.
And yet, while nothing should diminish Palestinian suffering through those frightful days, it is possible something redemptive is emerging from the tragedy of Gaza. For, as Norman Finkelstein details, in a concise work that melds cold anger with cool analysis, the profound injustice of the Israeli assault was widely recognized by bodies that it is impossible to brand as partial or extremist.
Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and the UN investigation headed by Richard Goldstone, in documenting Israel's use of indiscriminate and intentional force against the civilian population during the invasion (100 Palestinians died for every one Israeli), have had an impact on longstanding support for Israel. Jews in both the Unites States and the United Kingdom, for instance, have begun to voice dissent, and this trend is especially apparent among the young. Such a shift, Finkelstein contends, can create new pressure capable of moving the Middle East crisis towards a solution, one that embraces justice for Palestinians and Israelis alike.
This edition has been revised throughout and includes an extensive afterword on the Israeli attack on the Gaza Freedom Flotilla, which resulted in the deaths of nine activists and further strained the loyalty of many of Israel's traditional allies around the world. It also contains a brand new appendix in which Finkelstein dissects the official Israeli investigation of the flotilla attack.
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For more than half a century, the United States has been pursuing a grand imperial strategy with the aim of staking out the globe. Our leaders have shown themselves willing, as in the Cuban missile crisis, to follow the dream of dominance no matter how high the risks. Now the Bush administration is intensifying this process, driving us toward the final frontiers of imperial control, toward a choice between the prerogatives of power and a livable Earth.
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Read and open your mind
- By Rupert on 01-15-04
By: Noam Chomsky
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Inside Terrorism
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- Narrated by: Robertson Dean
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Bruce Hoffman's Inside Terrorism has remained a seminal work for understanding the historical evolution of terrorism and the terrorist mindset. In this revised edition of the classic text, Hoffman analyzes the new adversaries, motivations, and tactics of global terrorism that have emerged in recent years, focusing specifically on how al Qaeda has changed since 9/11; the reasons behind its resiliency, resonance, and longevity; and its successful use of the internet and videotapes to build public support and gain new recruits.
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Good historical information but has issues
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In the closing days of the 30-year Sri Lankan civil war, tens of thousands of civilians were killed, according to UN estimates, as government forces hemmed in the last remaining Tamil Tiger rebels on a tiny sand spit, dubbed "The Cage". Gordon Weiss, a journalist and UN spokesperson in Sri Lanka during the final years of the war, pulls back the curtain of government misinformation to tell the full story for the first time. Tracing the role of foreign influence as it converged with a history of radical Buddhism and ethnic conflict, The Cage is a harrowing portrait of an island paradise torn apart by war.
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Tragic and sobering
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The mainstream media and history books would have you believe that the Vietnam War was tragic and a dismal failure. But Phillip Jennings is here to set the record straight, about one of the bright spots in U.S. military history. In this latest Politically Incorrect Guide, Jennings shatters culturally accepted myths and busts politically incorrect lies that liberal pundits and leftist professors have been telling you for years.
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Politically incorrect is right.
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The Book Bill O'Rielly Doesn't Want You To Read!
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In sobering detail, The Korean War chronicles a US home front agitated by Joseph McCarthy, where absolutist conformity discouraged open inquiry and citizen dissent. Cumings incisively ties our current foreign policy back to Korea: an America with hundreds of permanent military bases abroad, a large standing army, and a permanent national security state at home, the ultimate result of a judicious and limited policy of containment evolving into an ongoing and seemingly endless global crusade.
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A real eye-opener
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Reclaiming Israel’s History
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There was a time when Israel could do no wrong in America's eyes. That time is long past, and justly so - no nation is absolutely perfect, particularly not one that is engaged in a conflict as long as the Arab-Israeli conflict. But the myth of the perfect Israel has been supplanted by a far more deleterious myth: the myth of the evil Israel. This new myth has so pervaded contemporary culture that the history of Israel - as well documented as it is - has been recast and retold to fit a false narrative of Israel as violent occupier.
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Excellent summary of Israeli point if view
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House of War
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A Biased Account
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Kissinger's Shadow
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A new account of America's most controversial diplomat that moves beyond praise or condemnation to reveal Kissinger as the architect of America's current imperial stance. In his fascinating new book, acclaimed historian Greg Grandin argues that to understand the crisis of contemporary America - its never-ending wars abroad and political polarization at home - we have to understand Henry Kissinger.
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A Rehash of Rehashes...nothing new
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- Guadalupe Esquivel
- 10-12-16
The facts! Clear and to the Point
This is a good read for someone who is trying to get informed on the subject of the war of Israel against the Palestinian people. And it's just facts without much reflexion or opinion from the writer. Loved it!
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- Anonymous User
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Wonderful book. Highly recommend this to everyone
Wonderful book! Highly recommended this to anyone interested in the events that has taken place in Gaza and wish to deepen thir understanding of Israels motives and intentions. Also very good narrator.
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- Al7usban
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A great human being, a great writer
Mr. Norman just can't disappoint us. This comes from the great heart he has and the knowledge he possesses ❤️
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- Alex halladay
- 06-17-24
those who don't learn from history
while this is ostensibly about the 2008 invasion of Gaza which killed thousands of Palestinians at the cost of Israeli liberal legitimacy, a slip of the mask of civilization showing all the brutality and cruelty that colonial conquest actually entails, this book is essentially true for any event regarding Gaza in the last 20 years. the cycle will continue until something changes, and the fact that some will acknowledge the boundary being pushed without doing something to address it is truly damnable moral apathy.
incredible production of a deeply important modern classic
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- Cameron Machado
- 06-24-19
must read for political science and history
Norman Finkelstein is a unique Voice within the global Jewish community who is not afraid to hold Is real to account for their actions
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- Kevin Stever
- 10-22-23
Relevant to today
This is part of the history of the conflict, and it rhymes with 2008 almost all the actors say the same thing
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- S. Donovan
- 08-04-24
Ahead of its time
If one overlooks the dates and specific events, this reads like it was written in the aftermath of the October 7th, 2023 escalation. Truly, a work of meticulously sourced and remarkable clarity. One cannot help but lament, "if only the world had listened..."
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- Carl J Martin
- 08-06-23
So mom, this is Propoganda!
If the issues presented by this book are understood at all, they are understood sophomoricly. A propagandistic polemic sure to please the shallow minded with little interest or information aside
from that which is being presented here. But real students and attentive observers will be left wondering why they wasted their time. They should not. They should read this review and then pass this book by.
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