In this episode, I sit down with Dorie Clark to talk all about career reinvention and navigating change with confidence. Dorie shares her own journey of making major career pivots, and we dig into the strategies and mindset shifts that help when you’re facing the unknown. From testing hypotheses to conducting pre-mortems (yes, planning for what could go wrong!), Dorie offers practical advice on how to reduce risks and open yourself up to new opportunities.

We also explore the power of dreaming big—how our upbringing and societal expectations can shape what we think is possible, and why it’s essential to separate our identity from specific goals or achievements. If you’re in the midst of a career change or just dreaming of what’s next, this conversation will give you the inspiration and tools to take small, meaningful steps toward your big dreams. Plus, we touch on the role of hobbies and personal interests in creating a more fulfilling, joyful life. Whether you're looking to make a big leap or simply recalibrate, this episode is packed with insights that will fuel you.

For more about Dorie, her books and work:

https://dorieclark.com/

Buy Dorie’s Book, REINVENTING YOU: Define Your Brand, Reimagine Your Future

For more about Nataly, including books, blog, and mentorship programs:

www.natalykogan.com