• Why Latina Voices Are Critical for the Future of AI with Dr. Nayana Guerrero
    Jun 14 2025
    Have you ever wondered why some of the most innovative AI solutions still miss the mark for large segments of the population? The answer might lie in who's actually building and implementing these technologies. Today, we're diving into a crucial conversation about representation in AI - specifically, why having Latina voices at the table isn't just about diversity metrics, it's about creating better, more effective AI solutions for everyone. The truth is, AI is reshaping every aspect of our world, from how businesses operate to how we solve complex social problems. But here's the challenge: when the teams developing these technologies don't reflect the diversity of our society, we end up with blind spots that can limit AI's potential and even perpetuate existing inequalities. That's why I'm thrilled to welcome Dr. Nayana Guerrero, a pioneering researcher and educator who's not only studying these issues but actively working to change them. Dr. Guerrero has made remarkable contributions to our understanding of AI's role in business and gender equality, including groundbreaking research on women entrepreneurs and business feminism using AI tools. She's currently shaping the next generation of tech leaders at the Tecnológico de Monterrey, while also serving as President of the Gender Equality Committee at The National Council of Women Entrepreneurs, where she's helping strengthen women's presence in Mexico's social and business sectors. The AI Hat Podcast host Mike Allton asked Nayana Guerrero about: ✨ Diverse AI Leadership: Building better AI requires diverse perspectives at every level of development and implementation. ✨ Cultural Intelligence: Understanding cultural nuances is crucial for creating AI solutions that truly serve global markets. ✨ Educational Pipeline: Strengthening STEM education and mentorship for Latina students is key to future AI innovation. Learn more about Dr. Nayana Guerrero Connect with Nayana Guerrero on LinkedIn Resources & Brands mentioned in this episode NayanaGuerrero.com Tec de Monterrey Unmasking AI: My Mission to Protect What Is Human in a World of Machines by Joy Buolamwini Miri Rodriguez Empressa Latinas in Tech AI Primer: A Comprehensive Guide Explore past episodes of the The AI Hat Podcast podcast CHAPTERS: 00:00 Introduction: Elevating Latina Voices in AI 01:22 The AI Hat Podcast Theme Song 02:31 Welcome to The AI Hat Podcast 02:54 The Importance of Representation in AI 03:36 Interview with Dr. Nayana Guerrero 04:31 Challenges and Insights in AI Development 06:52 Cultural Influences on AI 12:23 Gender Digital Divide and AI 24:42 Educational Institutions and Latina Tech Leaders 35:44 Opportunities for Latina Leaders in AI 41:07 Final Thoughts and Advice for Young Latinas 45:38 Conclusion and Farewell SHOW TRANSCRIPT & NOTES: https://theaihat.com/why-latina-voices-are-critical-for-the-future-of-ai/ Start your AI journey with the AI Marketing Primer. Brought to you by The AI Hat - Get Your AI On. Interesting in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here. AI Training for Business Leaders & Teams: https://theaihat.com/ai-training-for-business/ Powered by Magai - why choose one AI tool when you can have them all? And Descript, the magic wand for podcasters. Produced and Hosted by Mike Allton, AI Consultant & Trainer at The AI Hat, where he's tirelessly helping businesses and marketers get ahead of the AI Revolution and apply advanced technologies to their roles. He's spent over a decade in digital marketing, bringing an unparalleled level of experience and excitement to the fore, whether he's delivering a presentation or leading a workshop. If you’re interested in helping business owners with AI in an upcoming episode, reach out to Mike. Powered by the Marketing Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • Scale Like PayPal: Simple AI Strategies That Actually Work for Small Business with Mike Todasco
    Jun 7 2025
    Are you spending countless hours trying to figure out how to make AI work for your business, while bigger companies seem to have it all figured out? What if you could learn how one of the world's most innovative companies actually implements AI, and discover how to scale those same strategies in your business - without the enterprise budget? The truth is, most small businesses are drowning in AI tools and possibilities, unsure which strategies actually drive results and which are just burning time and money. They're stuck watching larger companies pull ahead while trying to piece together a working AI strategy. But today, we're going to change that. I'm thrilled to welcome Michael Todasco, former Director of Innovation at PayPal, where he managed over 100 patents and drove innovation initiatives that transformed how one of fintech's biggest players leverages AI. Now, Michael spends his time helping businesses of all sizes implement practical AI solutions that drive real results. He's going to share the strategies that actually work - no fluff, no complexity, just proven approaches you can implement starting today. The AI Hat Podcast host Mike Allton asked Mike Todasco about: ✨ Start Small, Think Big: Implement AI strategically by starting with one high-impact area while planning for scalable growth. ✨ Focus on Core Problems: Target AI implementation at solving specific business challenges rather than adopting technology for its own sake. ✨ Measure What Matters: Establish clear metrics and ROI goals before implementing any AI solution to ensure meaningful business impact. Learn more about Mike Todasco Connect with Mike Todasco on LinkedIn Resources & Brands mentioned in this episode PayPal James Silberrad Brown Center for Artificial Intelligence at SDSU Hanging up on ChatGPT’s Operator AI Primer: A Comprehensive Guide Explore past episodes of the The AI Hat Podcast podcast Chapters 00:00 Introduction to AI in Business 02:08 Welcome to The AI Hat Podcast 02:32 Challenges and Opportunities for Small Businesses 03:06 Interview with Michael Todasco 04:51 AI Implementation at PayPal 06:17 Practical AI Solutions for Small Businesses 11:12 Creating an AI-First Culture 18:04 Augmented Intelligence vs. Artificial Intelligence 21:10 Debunking the Myth: AI as a Cheating Tool 21:41 Sponsor Break: Introducing Magai 23:41 Biggest Mistakes in AI Implementation 25:59 Success Stories and Real-World Applications 29:48 Measuring AI ROI for Businesses 32:59 Emerging AI Trends and Future Outlook 38:17 Conclusion and Final Thoughts SHOW TRANSCRIPT & NOTES: https://theaihat.com/scale-like-paypal-simple-ai-strategies-that-actually-work-for-small-business/ Start your AI journey with the AI Marketing Primer. Brought to you by The AI Hat - Get Your AI On. Interesting in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here. AI Training for Business Leaders & Teams: https://theaihat.com/ai-training-for-business/ Powered by Magai - why choose one AI tool when you can have them all? And Descript, the magic wand for podcasters. Produced and Hosted by Mike Allton, AI Consultant & Trainer at The AI Hat, where he's tirelessly helping businesses and marketers get ahead of the AI Revolution and apply advanced technologies to their roles. He's spent over a decade in digital marketing, bringing an unparalleled level of experience and excitement to the fore, whether he's delivering a presentation or leading a workshop. If you’re interested in helping business owners with AI in an upcoming episode, reach out to Mike. Powered by the Marketing Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • No Code, No Problem: Revolutionizing Marketing with AI Tools with Mike Russell
    May 31 2025
    Have you ever felt left behind in the marketing tech race because you don't know how to code? Maybe you've watched colleagues implement amazing automation or create sophisticated workflows, while you're still struggling with basic tools. What if I told you that the coding barrier in marketing is crumbling, thanks to artificial intelligence? The truth is, marketers everywhere are facing increasing pressure to be more technical, more efficient, and more innovative - but learning to code isn't always practical or necessary. This technology gap has been holding back countless talented marketers from reaching their full potential. That's why I'm thrilled to introduce today's guest, Mike Russell. Mike is the founder of Creator Magic and serves as the Creative Director at Music Radio Creative, where his international team creates productions for over 4,000 clients in 120+ countries. He's been at the forefront of the AI revolution, teaching creators and marketers how to harness the power of artificial intelligence without writing a single line of code. His work has transformed the way thousands of professionals approach their craft, making sophisticated marketing solutions accessible to everyone. The AI Hat Podcast host Mike Allton asked Mike Russell about: ✨ Start Small, Think Big - No-code AI tools allow marketers to begin with simple projects while building toward complex solutions. ✨ Tools Not Rules - Today's AI platforms offer flexibility to create custom marketing solutions without coding constraints. ✨ Future-Proof Marketing - Embracing no-code AI tools now positions marketers for upcoming technological advances. Learn more about Mike Russell Connect with Mike Russell on LinkedIn Subscribe to Mike Russell on YouTube Resources & Brands mentioned in this episode Creator Magic Cursor Perplexity Agent.ai Zapier Make.com N8N Notion AI and Copyright: What Marketers Need to Know with Mitch Jackson HeyGen ElevenLabs Creator Magic YouTube Channel AI Primer: A Comprehensive Guide Explore past episodes of the The AI Hat Podcast podcast CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction to AI Agents in the Workforce 01:15 The AI Hat Podcast Theme Song 02:24 Welcome to The AI Hat Podcast 02:48 The Coding Barrier in Marketing 03:14 Introducing Mike Russell 04:07 The Power of No-Code AI Tools 04:52 Building AI Solutions with Cursor 11:54 The Future of AI Agents 23:25 Common Mistakes in No-Code AI 33:43 Final Thoughts and Advice 36:29 Conclusion and Wrap-Up SHOW TRANSCRIPT & NOTES: https://theaihat.com/no-code-no-problem-revolutionizing-marketing-with-ai-tools/ Brought to you by The AI Hat - Get Your AI On. Interesting in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here. AI Training for Business Leaders & Teams: https://theaihat.com/ai-training-for-business/ Powered by Magai - why choose one AI tool when you can have them all? And Descript, the magic wand for podcasters. Produced and Hosted by Mike Allton, AI Consultant & Trainer at The AI Hat, where he's tirelessly helping businesses and marketers get ahead of the AI Revolution and apply advanced technologies to their roles. He's spent over a decade in digital marketing, bringing an unparalleled level of experience and excitement to the fore, whether he's delivering a presentation or leading a workshop. If you’re interested in helping business owners with AI in an upcoming episode, reach out to Mike. Powered by the Marketing Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • Inside LinkedIn's AI Marketing Strategy: A Senior Leader's Perspective with Hava Maloku
    May 24 2025
    Have you ever wondered how the world's largest professional network approaches artificial intelligence in their marketing? We all see the innovations and changes happening on LinkedIn's platform, but what's happening behind the scenes? How are they actually implementing AI in their marketing strategies, and what can we learn from their approach? The truth is, most businesses are struggling to effectively integrate AI into their marketing operations. They're either overwhelmed by the possibilities, unsure where to start, or concerned about maintaining authenticity while leveraging automation. And with the stakes getting higher every day, the pressure to get it right is immense. That's why I'm thrilled to welcome today's guest, Hava Maloku, Senior Digital Marketing Manager at LinkedIn. With over 15 years of experience in digital marketing and a front-row seat to AI implementation at one of the world's most influential tech companies, Hava brings unique insights into how enterprises can successfully leverage AI in their marketing strategies. She's also a respected voice in the AI leadership space, recently speaking at the "AI Leadership Workshop: Voices of Change" about combining technical excellence with strategic vision. The AI Hat Podcast host Mike Allton asked Hava Maloku about: ✨ Enterprise AI Strategy: How LinkedIn approaches AI implementation at scale ✨ Balance & Integration: Combining technical capabilities with strategic marketing goals ✨ Future-Ready Framework: Building adaptable AI marketing systems for long-term success Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Women Leaders in Tech 00:18 Encouragement for Women in AI 01:29 The AI Hat Podcast Theme Song 02:36 Welcome to The AI Hat Podcast 02:59 LinkedIn's AI Marketing Strategies 03:35 Guest Introduction: Hava Maloku 04:20 Hava's Journey into AI Marketing 06:22 AI's Impact Beyond Marketing 08:24 AI Trends in Marketing 12:29 LinkedIn's Initial AI Approach 17:39 Successful AI Marketing Initiatives at LinkedIn 24:42 Staying Current with AI in Marketing 28:52 Advice for Women Marketing Leaders 31:58 Conclusion and Contact Information Learn more about Hava Maloku Connect with Hava Maloku on LinkedIn Resources & Brands mentioned in this episode LinkedIn AI Primer: Get Started with AI Explore past episodes of The AI Hat Podcast SHOW TRANSCRIPT & NOTES: https://theaihat.com/inside-linkedins-ai-marketing-strategy-a-senior-leaders-perspective/ Brought to you by The AI Hat - Get Your AI On. Interesting in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here. AI Training for Business Leaders & Teams: https://theaihat.com/ai-training-for-business/ Powered by Magai - why choose one AI tool when you can have them all? And Descript, the magic wand for podcasters. Produced and Hosted by Mike Allton, AI Consultant & Trainer at The AI Hat, where he's tirelessly helping businesses and marketers get ahead of the AI Revolution and apply advanced technologies to their roles. He's spent over a decade in digital marketing, bringing an unparalleled level of experience and excitement to the fore, whether he's delivering a presentation or leading a workshop. If you’re interested in helping business owners with AI in an upcoming episode, reach out to Mike. Powered by the Marketing Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • From Disaster to Digital Recovery: A Business Owner's AI Journey with Judi Fox
    May 17 2025
    What would you do if your business suddenly faced a catastrophic disruption tomorrow? For most of us, that's a terrifying thought we'd rather not consider. But the reality is, business emergencies don't wait for the perfect moment - they strike without warning, forcing us to adapt or risk losing everything we've built. That's exactly what happened to today's guest when a devastating house fire in July 2023 threatened to derail her thriving business coaching practice. But instead of letting crisis win, she discovered an unexpected ally in artificial intelligence that not only helped her recover - it transformed her entire approach to business resilience. Today, I'm thrilled to welcome my dear friend Judi Fox, creator of the LinkedIn Business Accelerator program and trusted advisor to countless professionals looking to maximize their LinkedIn presence. Judi has helped hundreds of business leaders generate consistent leads and opportunities through strategic LinkedIn optimization, and her innovative approaches have earned her recognition as one of the platform's leading voices. But it's her remarkable story of using AI to rebuild and strengthen her business after disaster that will change how you think about business continuity. The AI Hat Podcast host Mike Allton asked Judi Fox about: ✨ Prepare Before Crisis Hits - Developing an AI-powered contingency plan before emergencies strike ensures business continuity. ✨ AI as Recovery Partner - Artificial intelligence can provide 24/7 support for critical business functions during disruption. ✨ Transform Challenge to Growth - Strategic AI implementation can turn business crises into opportunities for innovation and improvement. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to the Power of AI 02:04 Welcome to The AI Hat Podcast 02:28 Facing Catastrophic Disruption 03:05 Judi Fox's Story of Resilience 03:51 The Immediate Aftermath of the Fire 07:00 Community Support and Initial Challenges 15:42 Leveraging AI for Business Recovery 22:51 AI Tools and Strategies 26:53 Advice for Business Resilience 36:06 Final Thoughts and Resources Learn more about Judi Fox Connect with Judi Fox on LinkedIn Resources & Brands mentioned in this episode Judi Fox Consulting Bardeen Read.ai AI Primer: A Comprehensive Guide Explore past episodes of the The AI Hat Podcast podcast SHOW TRANSCRIPT & NOTES: https://theaihat.com/from-disaster-to-digital-recovery-a-business-owners-ai-journey/ Start your AI journey with the AI Marketing Primer. Brought to you by The AI Hat - Get Your AI On. Interesting in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here. AI Training for Business Leaders & Teams: https://theaihat.com/ai-training-for-business/ Powered by Magai - why choose one AI tool when you can have them all? And Descript, the magic wand for podcasters. Produced and Hosted by Mike Allton, AI Consultant & Trainer at The AI Hat, where he's tirelessly helping businesses and marketers get ahead of the AI Revolution and apply advanced technologies to their roles. He's spent over a decade in digital marketing, bringing an unparalleled level of experience and excitement to the fore, whether he's delivering a presentation or leading a workshop. If you’re interested in helping business owners with AI in an upcoming episode, reach out to Mike. Powered by the Marketing Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    39 mins
  • Making AI Your Most Valuable Team Member: A Leaders Guide with Liza Adams
    May 10 2025
    What if your next star employee never needed a coffee break, could work 24/7, and actually made your human team more creative and productive? That's not science fiction - it's the reality of properly implemented AI in today's business environment. But here's the challenge: most business leaders either overthink AI integration, making it more complicated than necessary, or underutilize it, missing out on incredible opportunities for growth and efficiency. The truth is, many businesses are struggling to find the sweet spot between leveraging AI's capabilities and maintaining that crucial human element that makes their brand unique. They're either going all-in without a strategy or staying on the sidelines out of fear. That's why I'm thrilled to introduce today's guest, Liza Adams. Liza is a pioneering force in helping SMBs successfully integrate AI solutions while keeping human values at the forefront. As a seasoned executive who's worn multiple hats including VP and CMO, she's helped countless businesses transform their operations through strategic AI implementation. Her human-centered approach to technology has made her one of the most sought-after voices in the AI implementation space. The AI Hat Podcast host Mike Allton asked Liza Adams about: ✨ Strategic Integration - The key to success is treating AI as a collaborative partner, not just a tool ✨ Value Alignment - AI implementation must align with and enhance your human team's capabilities ✨ Measured Approach - Start small, measure impact, and scale based on proven success Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to AI as a Thought Partner 00:33 The AI Hat Podcast Theme Song 01:42 Welcome to The AI Hat Podcast 02:48 Introducing Liza Adams 03:33 Liza's Journey with AI 04:31 AI as a Collaborative Partner 09:08 Misconceptions About AI 17:46 Using AI for Strategy and Automation 23:07 AI Use Cases and Practical Applications 32:11 Maintaining Human Values in AI 37:55 Concerns and Future of AI 43:52 Conclusion and Contact Information Learn more about Liza Adams Connect with Liza Adams on LinkedIn Resources & Brands mentioned in this episode GrowthPath Partners Gemini for Leadership: AI-Powered Decision-Making From Chaos to Clarity: AI-Powered Thought Organization for Marketers Prompt Engineering Made Easy: The RICCE Framework for AI Content Writing Custom GPTs for Marketers: Work Smarter, Not Harder Christopher Penn Perplexity Level Up Your SEO: How SMBs Can Dominate Search with Gemini 1.5 Pro and Deep Research CLU’s AI Podcast Newsletter on LinkedIn Build your own AI Assistant The Menagerie by Chris Kelly AI Primer: A Comprehensive Guide Explore past episodes of the The AI Hat Podcast podcast SHOW TRANSCRIPT & NOTES: https://theaihat.com/making-ai-your-most-valuable-team-member-a-leaders-guide/ Start your AI journey with the AI Marketing Primer. Brought to you by The AI Hat - Get Your AI On. Interesting in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here. AI Training for Business Leaders & Teams: https://theaihat.com/ai-training-for-business/ Powered by Magai - why choose one AI tool when you can have them all? And Descript, the magic wand for podcasters. Produced and Hosted by Mike Allton, AI Consultant & Trainer at The AI Hat, where he's tirelessly helping businesses and marketers get ahead of the AI Revolution and apply advanced technologies to their roles. He's spent over a decade in digital marketing, bringing an unparalleled level of experience and excitement to the fore, whether he's delivering a presentation or leading a workshop. If you’re interested in helping business owners with AI in an upcoming episode, reach out to Mike. Powered by the Marketing Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    46 mins
  • Gemini for Leadership: AI-Powered Decision-Making with Mike Allton
    May 7 2025
    In this episode, I explore how leaders can leverage Gemini to make smarter, faster, and more data-driven decisions. I share my own experience using Gemini to navigate a major business rebrand and provide a practical framework for integrating AI into your leadership workflow. Discover how Gemini can assist with rapid market analysis, data-driven risk assessment, and performance optimization, empowering you to lead with greater clarity and confidence. What You'll Learn: How Gemini can streamline market research and provide actionable insights. Strategies for using Gemini to assess risks, simulate scenarios, and make informed choices. A step-by-step workflow for integrating AI into your decision-making process. Episode Outline: 00:00 Facing Critical Business Decisions 00:15 Introducing Gemini: Your AI Strategic Partner 02:03 Personal Rebranding Journey with AI 04:42 Market Analysis with Gemini 07:35 Data-Driven Risk Assessment 10:31 Optimizing Performance with AI 13:04 Integrating AI into Decision Making 15:24 Personalized AI Guidance 17:05 Conclusion and Rebrand Success Next Steps: Ready to unlock explosive growth with Gemini? Download the free AI Work Buddy to create your own Custom Gem and get started with personalized AI assistance. AI Prompt Library with 40+ Prompts: https://theaihat.com/your-teams-ai-playbook-how-to-build-and-use-an-ai-prompt-library-for-business/ AI Training for Business Leaders & Teams: https://theaihat.com/ai-training-for-business/ SHOW TRANSCRIPT & NOTES: https://theaihat.com/gemini-for-leadership-ai-powered-decision-making/ Brought to you by The AI Hat - Get Your AI On. Interesting in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here. Powered by Magai - why choose one AI tool when you can have them all? And Descript, the magic wand for podcasters. Produced and Hosted by Mike Allton, AI Consultant & Trainer at The AI Hat, where he's tirelessly helping businesses and marketers get ahead of the AI Revolution and apply advanced technologies to their roles. He's spent over a decade in digital marketing, bringing an unparalleled level of experience and excitement to the fore, whether he's delivering a presentation or leading a workshop. If you’re interested in helping business owners with AI in an upcoming episode, reach out to Mike.Powered by the Marketing Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    19 mins
  • AI Digital Clone: How to Augment Your Team's Expertise with George B. Thomas
    May 3 2025
    Imagine if your top expert—maybe even you—could be available 24/7, across multiple languages, without burning out. Sounds like science fiction? For many SMB leaders, the knowledge held by key individuals becomes a bottleneck, limiting growth and overwhelming crucial team members. But what if AI offered a way not to replace, but to amplify that irreplaceable human expertise? Today, I'm talking with George B. Thomas, widely known as "The HubSpot Helper," but we're diving deep into something even more cutting-edge. George has actually built an AI Digital Clone of himself – an AI trained on over 16 million words of his unique content, insights, and perhaps most importantly, his core values and beliefs. Discover how this isn't just about creating a chatbot, but about authentically scaling human expertise to augment his team and serve his audience in ways previously impossible. George firmly believes AI's true power lies in augmentation, not replacement. He shares how his AI clone functions as an internal assistant, a content creation partner, and an external resource, allowing his human team to focus on higher-value tasks. Forget the hype; this is a real-world look at creating a human-centric AI that embodies your unique essence. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction: The Purpose of Cloning Yourself 00:47 The AI Hat Podcast Theme Song 01:55 Welcome to The AI Hat Podcast 02:18 Introducing George B. Thomas: The HubSpot Helper 04:24 The Importance of Business Process Optimization 06:41 Mike's Superpower: Extra Time for Side Hustles 07:52 Creating a Digital Clone: The Journey Begins 09:18 Feeding the Clone: Content and Context 14:06 The Technology Behind the Clone 22:08 Human-Centered AI: Balancing Technology and Humanity 23:40 Embracing AI for Augmentation 26:05 Sponsor Message: Magai 27:03 AI-Generated Music and Multimodal Interaction 31:03 The Future of AI Clones in Business 34:19 Monetizing AI Clones 41:58 Advice for Implementing AI in Your Business 46:22 Conclusion and Contact Information SHOW TRANSCRIPT & NOTES: https://theaihat.com/ai-digital-clone-how-to-augment-your-teams-expertise-with-george-b-thomas/ Start your AI journey with the AI Marketing Primer. Brought to you by The AI Hat - Get Your AI On. Interesting in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here. AI Training for Business Leaders & Teams: https://theaihat.com/ai-training-for-business/ Powered by Magai - why choose one AI tool when you can have them all? And Descript, the magic wand for podcasters. Produced and Hosted by Mike Allton, AI Consultant & Trainer at The AI Hat, where he's tirelessly helping businesses and marketers get ahead of the AI Revolution and apply advanced technologies to their roles. He's spent over a decade in digital marketing, bringing an unparalleled level of experience and excitement to the fore, whether he's delivering a presentation or leading a workshop. If you’re interested in helping business owners with AI in an upcoming episode, reach out to Mike.Powered by the Marketing Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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