• Are We Doomed? | Dan Aronovich on Norbert Wiener's 1948 “Cybernetics”

  • Feb 10 2025
  • Length: 59 mins
  • Podcast

Are We Doomed? | Dan Aronovich on Norbert Wiener's 1948 “Cybernetics”

  • Summary

  • In this episode, the 632nm team sits down with Dan Aronovich (Data Science Decoded Podcast) to explore predictions about technology and society, starting with MIT pioneer Norbert Wiener's remarkably prescient warnings about AI from 1948. His concerns about artificial systems misinterpreting human instructions mirror modern discussions about AI alignment, while his skepticism of social sciences raises important questions about the limitations of studying human behavior.

    The conversation takes an unexpected turn as it delves into demographic forecasts that paint a striking picture of humanity's future. The discussion reveals how declining global fertility rates could lead to religious groups becoming demographically dominant, while technological advances might create a world populated by extremely long-lived humans augmented by robotics.

    01:16 Exploring Norbert Wiener's Cybernetics
    01:35 Main Claims of Cybernetics
    03:14 Cybernetics in Different Cultures
    04:06 Historical Context and AI Precursors
    05:30 Wiener Filter and Signal Processing
    10:16 Philosophical Insights and Social Implications
    22:48 Analog vs Digital and Future of AI
    31:56 Debunking Doom Predictions
    32:13 AI and Digital Control
    32:59 AI and Physical World Challenges
    35:13 Future Societal Structures
    37:58 Global Fertility Trends
    42:45 AI in Military and Arms Race
    47:15 AI Creativity and Hallucinations
    52:53 Psychedelics and AI

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