Bret Weinstein speaks with Emeritus Professor Robert Clancy AM on the subject of mucosal immunology.

Find Dr. Clancy at The University of New Castle Australia: https://www.newcastle.edu.au/profile/robert-clancy

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We begin with the HHS announcement that Covid shots will no longer be recommended to healthy children and pregnant women. What does healthy mean? And what are the conditions that provide release from liability for vaccine makers? Then, a discussion of kinds of immunity, and how vaccines are best delivered depending on how disease is transmitted. We compare what was claimed about the shots (they stop transmission!), and what Pfizer later admitted (that they did not know if the shots stopped transmission—but they had to move at the “speed of science”!). Also, a discussion of how to kill your pathogens by crossing ecological borders…and how to get rid of a botfly with a steak, or with ivermectin. Then: why are young male capuchin monkeys abducting baby howler monkeys on an island off the coast of Panama? Finally: a discussion of transhumanism, our future, our embodied selves, how we live on, what we owe our children, what our beloved dead would make of now, and how we, and the LLMs, could know.

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Mentioned in this episode:

Kennedy, Bhattacharya and Makary on changing vax recommendations: https://x.com/SecKennedy/status/1927368440811008138

Dr. Lon Jones on mucosal immunity (on DHP): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w99CQVaOK0E

Rob Roos forcing truth from Pfizer: https://x.com/Rob_Roos/status/1579759795225198593

Heather on killing your pathogens: https://open.substack.com/pub/naturalselections/p/kill-your-pathogens

Forrest Maready on polio (on DHP): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7wYUnQUESU

Goldsborough et al 2025. Rise and spread of a social tradition of interspecies abduction. Current Biology 35(10): R375-R376: https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(25)00372-0

Bret on transhumanism: https://x.com/BretWeinstein/status/1927043640813138102

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Bret speaks with Dr. Lon Jones, DO on the subject of the mismatch between modern humans and the environment they live in.

Find Dr. Lon Jones, DO at https://commonsensemedicine.org

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- Common Sense Medicine: Making America Healthy Again by Dr. Lon Jones, DO https://amzn.to/4kd4mka (commission earned)
- No More Allergies, Asthma or Sinus Infections: The Revolutionary Approach by Dr. Lon Jones, DO https://amzn.to/4dKaa2o (commission earned)
- George Williams Paper: Pleiotropy, Natural Selection, and the Evolution of Senescence https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1558-5646.1957.tb02911.x
- Patient education: Ear infections (otitis media) in children (Beyond the Basics) https://www.uptodate.com/contents/ear-infections-otitis-media-in-children-beyond-the-basics/print
- Indirect health effects of relative humidity in indoor environments https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1474709/
- Turku sugar studies V: Final report on the effect of sucrose, fructose and xylitol diets on the caries incidence in man https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3109/00016357608997711
- Paul W. Ewald: Evolution of Disease https://amzn.to/4dzIzRj (commission earned)
- Commonsense Medicine: Healing from the Inside Out and Stopping the Next Pandemic https://amzn.to/4kE9kX7 (commission earned)
- How Bacteria Stick https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-bacteria-stick

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