Today we discuss hummingbirds, baby making, longevity hacking, and Jeffrey Epstein, before finishing up with a short discussion of the riots in LA. A new company is promising future parents that they will be able to create long-lived babies—what could go wrong? Also, how likely are they to be able to make good on their promises? We discuss, as always, with an evolutionary lens. Also: what a great business model! And: it is easier to fix something that is broken than it is to improve something that works. Then: Jeffrey Epstein apparently did kill himself after all. Or did he?

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Wall Street Journal: Longevity Is Now a Factor When Picking an Embryo for IVF:

https://www.wsj.com/health/embryo-ivf-screening-longevity-2b1f096a

Koestler, The Act of Creation: https://amzn.to/4jIOXHq (commission earned)

Kash Patel & Don Bongino on Fox: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqI_sFSPbJQ

Patel on JRE about Epstein: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlCUzbxtoE

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Many topics today! First: FDA tentatively approves Moderna’s new mRNA shot for Covid. What? And also why? Bret has six main points, which include discussion of mucosal immunity, IgG4, auto-immunity, long-term consequences, statistical tricks, and homeopathy. Then: how do we know what is true, and how can we avoid jumping to conclusions when triggered by language or circumstances that seem familiar and frustrating?...As explored through the story of Algerian boxer Imane Khelif, who has a Disorder of Sexual Development, won Olympic gold for beating women, but is definitely male. Finally: brief discussions of Glenn Greenwald, and Richard Dawkins. No, Dawkins, religion is not a mental infection.

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Mentioned in this episode:

Moderna press release: https://investors.modernatx.com/news/news-details/2025/Moderna-Receives-U-S--FDA-Approval-for-COVID-19-Vaccine-mNEXSPIKE/default.aspx

Kennedy on FDA and Moderna shot: https://x.com/seckennedy/status/1930012848056365294

Mary Talley Bowden MD on the shots: https://x.com/mdbreathe/status/1927899248575545501

Heather on Imane Khelif: https://x.com/HeatherEHeying/status/1929920193771516423

Greenwald on the situation: https://x.com/ggreenwald/status/1928440222771015912

Dawkins on religion: https://x.com/richarddawkins/status/1930184916190257320

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Bret Weinstein speaks with Emeritus Professor Robert Clancy AM on the subject of mucosal immunology.

Find Dr. Clancy at The University of New Castle Australia: https://www.newcastle.edu.au/profile/robert-clancy

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We begin with the HHS announcement that Covid shots will no longer be recommended to healthy children and pregnant women. What does healthy mean? And what are the conditions that provide release from liability for vaccine makers? Then, a discussion of kinds of immunity, and how vaccines are best delivered depending on how disease is transmitted. We compare what was claimed about the shots (they stop transmission!), and what Pfizer later admitted (that they did not know if the shots stopped transmission—but they had to move at the “speed of science”!). Also, a discussion of how to kill your pathogens by crossing ecological borders…and how to get rid of a botfly with a steak, or with ivermectin. Then: why are young male capuchin monkeys abducting baby howler monkeys on an island off the coast of Panama? Finally: a discussion of transhumanism, our future, our embodied selves, how we live on, what we owe our children, what our beloved dead would make of now, and how we, and the LLMs, could know.

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Kennedy, Bhattacharya and Makary on changing vax recommendations: https://x.com/SecKennedy/status/1927368440811008138

Dr. Lon Jones on mucosal immunity (on DHP): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w99CQVaOK0E

Rob Roos forcing truth from Pfizer: https://x.com/Rob_Roos/status/1579759795225198593

Heather on killing your pathogens: https://open.substack.com/pub/naturalselections/p/kill-your-pathogens

Forrest Maready on polio (on DHP): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7wYUnQUESU

Goldsborough et al 2025. Rise and spread of a social tradition of interspecies abduction. Current Biology 35(10): R375-R376: https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(25)00372-0

Bret on transhumanism: https://x.com/BretWeinstein/status/1927043640813138102

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Bret speaks with Dr. Lon Jones, DO on the subject of the mismatch between modern humans and the environment they live in.

Find Dr. Lon Jones, DO at https://commonsensemedicine.org

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- Common Sense Medicine: Making America Healthy Again by Dr. Lon Jones, DO https://amzn.to/4kd4mka (commission earned)
- No More Allergies, Asthma or Sinus Infections: The Revolutionary Approach by Dr. Lon Jones, DO https://amzn.to/4dKaa2o (commission earned)
- George Williams Paper: Pleiotropy, Natural Selection, and the Evolution of Senescence https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1558-5646.1957.tb02911.x
- Patient education: Ear infections (otitis media) in children (Beyond the Basics) https://www.uptodate.com/contents/ear-infections-otitis-media-in-children-beyond-the-basics/print
- Indirect health effects of relative humidity in indoor environments https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1474709/
- Turku sugar studies V: Final report on the effect of sucrose, fructose and xylitol diets on the caries incidence in man https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3109/00016357608997711
- Paul W. Ewald: Evolution of Disease https://amzn.to/4dzIzRj (commission earned)
- Commonsense Medicine: Healing from the Inside Out and Stopping the Next Pandemic https://amzn.to/4kE9kX7 (commission earned)
- How Bacteria Stick https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-bacteria-stick

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It’s Prostate Week in Podcastistan: what happens when an MRI scan for prostatitis includes the injection of rare earth metals—should you, or shouldn’t you? Gadolinium crosses the blood-brain barrier if the barrier is not fully intact—does that affect your decision? Then: a letter from an MD-PhD student at Harvard prompts musings on the federal funding of science, what science is for, how complicit universities and many scientists have been for years, and what to do. Also: uterine transplants for “trans women.”

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Gadolinium Contrast Dye: https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-drug-safety-communication-fda-warns-gadolinium-based-contrast-agents-gbcas-are-retained-body

Letter from Harvard: https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/letter-from-harvard/comments

Higher Education Research & Development Survey: https://ncses.nsf.gov/surveys/higher-education-research-development/2023#data

Jones et al 2018. Uterine transplantation in transgender women. Bjog 126(2): 152-156: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6492192/pdf/BJO-126-152.pdf

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Bret speaks with Michael Malice about the vaccine injured, the importance of continuing to seek answers about what happened during COVID, and the topic of anarchism.

Find Michael Malice on X at https://x.com/michaelmalice

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- No Exceptions: A Story of Medical Tyranny in Australia https://youtu.be/-qA0wZD0iPw
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- "YOUR WELCOME" with Michael Malice #327: Sharyl Attkisson https://youtu.be/dk4mSWBaVY4?si=51ykCuyuhUJk7vv2
- Michael Malice Gets His Face Painted by Shaman Jake Chansley https://youtu.be/h804ZRIkLSg?si=RaSERliEcJjXjaYO
- "YOUR WELCOME" with Michael Malice #362 LIVE!: Kurt Metzger https://youtu.be/C5rqvvBmgT0?si=Q81z5o6kdBZLjN-X
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What happens when we commodify nature? The natural world is not doing well, and is not put here to do with as we want. How can we learn to appreciate nature, and environment, without jumping to conclusions about what is happening, or picking sides in an ideological battle that has nothing to do with actual wild nature? Also: how are DOGE cuts affecting scientists? Four people profiled in Science magazine reveal that some good science is being hit with chaos and uncertainty—but also that a lot of “science” funding that has been cut was suspect, at best.

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Mentioned in this episode:

But They Are Wild - https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/antipode-chapter-22

U.S. scientists’ lives and careers are being upended. Here are five of their stories:https://www.science.org/content/article/u-s-scientists-lives-and-careers-are-being-upended-here-are-five-their-stories

Spread of Valley Fever: https://www.science.org/content/article/climate-change-may-be-driving-spread-deadly-fungus-u-s-southwest

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