Episodes

  • Growing your HVAC Business the Smart Way w/ Copeland

    Growing your HVAC Business the Smart Way w/ Copeland
    Apr 24 2025
    In this episode of the HVAC School podcast, Bryan and Jim discuss strategies for growing an HVAC business, focusing on the importance of maintenance contracts, consistent service, and effective branding. Drawing from Jim's 15 years of experience running a successful HVAC company in California, they explore how maintenance contracts not only provide consistent revenue but also create valuable training opportunities for technicians. The conversation emphasizes that maintenance contracts are fundamental to building company value. Jim shares that when he sold his business, the number of maintenance contracts was a key valuation metric. These contracts tie customers to your company, provide consistent work during shoulder seasons, and offer technicians crucial repetitive practice with equipment. Bryan adds that maintenance provides technicians with opportunities to observe normal equipment operation repeatedly, which builds troubleshooting skills through pattern recognition. Both hosts stress the importance of consistency in growing a business. They note that large, successful HVAC companies aren't always the most technically excellent, but they deliver consistent service that customers can rely on. Jim introduces the marketing concept of "TOMA" (Top Of Mind Awareness), sharing how he used branded coffee bags as thank-you gifts to keep his company in customers' minds even after service calls were completed. The discussion concludes with an examination of White Rogers' contractor branding program, which allows HVAC companies to put their name and logo on thermostats, creating another touchpoint for customer awareness. Key topics covered: How maintenance contracts increase company valuation and create customer loyaltyUsing maintenance as a training ground for developing technician skillsThe importance of consistent processes and documentation when scaling a businessCreating "Top Of Mind Awareness" (TOMA) with customers through strategic touchpointsWhite Rogers' contractor branding program for thermostatsBenefits of Sensi thermostats and their app features, including multiple temperature sensorsDifferent pricing strategies for customers with and without maintenance contractsThe importance of documenting extended warranty information on invoicesHow service departments can weather economic downturns better than installation-focused businesses Get contractor branding on your Sensi thermostats today at https://hvacrschool.com/contractor-branding. Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool. Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 6th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium. Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android
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    45 mins
  • Oversized Evap Coils? - Short #237

    Oversized Evap Coils? - Short #237
    Apr 22 2025

    In this short podcast episode, Bryan answers a listener-submitted question about oversized evaporator coils, particularly when they're half a ton or a full ton larger than the condenser.

    The expanded performance data contains the information that'll tell you whether the coil is right for the system. However, when it comes to the specific issue of oversizing, there is a common misconception that coil size affects the saturated suction temperature. The truth is that they're not related; you could fully insulate different-sized coils and move the same amount of refrigerant, but they will behave similarly.

    The saturated suction temperature (suction pressure, evap temperature) is driven by the heat entering the system. Coils are designed to handle refrigerant flow rates and airflows, so having a lower airflow over a large coil allows for greater cooling due to the bigger surface area, lower bypass factor, and dwell time. When more heat enters the evaporator coil, the saturated suction temperature increases, but some of that heat enters as latent heat and helps with dehumidification. However, a larger coil also takes longer to get colder, and the superheat settings become more important.

    You have to be careful with lower face velocities across the evaporator coil, as laminar flow isn't as good at transferring heat as turbulent flow. That is one of the limitations of using a larger coil with lower airflow. If the expanded performance data has a rated match for a larger coil, then that same data will also contain information about the required airflow. Testing in and testing out is also important.

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    13 mins
  • ERVs - What you need to know w/ Dr. Bailes

    ERVs - What you need to know w/ Dr. Bailes
    Apr 17 2025
    In this episode of the HVAC School podcast, host Bryan sits down with building science expert Allison Bailes to dive deep into the world of Energy Recovery Ventilators (ERVs). The conversation explores the critical role of ventilation in modern homes, highlighting how ERVs have become an essential component of maintaining indoor air quality and energy efficiency. Bailes breaks down the technical nuances of ERVs, explaining how these systems not only bring fresh air into a home but do so while recovering both temperature and moisture energy. The discussion goes beyond simply explaining what an ERV is, delving into the practical considerations of ventilation strategies. Bailes shares personal experiences, including challenges he faced with over-ventilation in his own home, which led to extremely dry indoor conditions. The podcast explores the complex balance of bringing outdoor air inside while managing humidity, temperature, and air quality. Listeners gain insights into why simply bringing in outdoor air isn't always the best solution, especially in climates with extreme humidity or air quality challenges. Throughout the episode, Bailes and Bryan emphasize the importance of thoughtful ventilation design. They discuss the evolution of home construction, noting how increasingly airtight buildings have made proper ventilation more crucial than ever. The conversation touches on key considerations for selecting and implementing ERVs, including motor efficiency, boost capabilities, filtration, and the impact of outdoor air conditions. The experts provide practical advice for contractors, technicians, and homeowners looking to improve their understanding of indoor air management. Key Topics Covered: The difference between Energy Recovery Ventilators (ERVs) and Heat Recovery Ventilators (HRVs)Moisture transfer and vapor permeability in ventilation systemsBalanced ventilation strategies and their importanceChallenges of over-ventilation and indoor air qualityFiltration considerations for ERV systemsImpacts of outdoor air quality on home ventilationStrategies for different climate zonesThe role of ERVs in managing indoor humidity and temperature Resources Mentioned: Allison Bailes' book: "A House Needs to Breathe... Or Does It?"Upcoming online ventilation course from Energy Vanguard (expected May 2025)Energy Vanguard website: energyvanguard.com Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool. Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 6th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium. Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android
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    41 mins
  • Multiple Surge Protectors - Short #236

    Multiple Surge Protectors - Short #236
    Apr 15 2025

    In this short podcast episode, Bryan answers a listener-submitted question asking whether you can use another surge protector at the disconnect panel with an ICM 493 already in place.

    Using multiple surge protectors in the configuration described does NOT count as daisy-chaining. Surge protectors with MOVs (metal oxide varistors) shunt current from high voltage to ground by reducing their resistance. MOVs are sacrificial, so they wear out over time. Surge protectors don't last forever, so installing multiple is a fine idea.

    You can have whole-home surge protection with additional surge protectors positioned at the appliances/electronics. While it can be done and doesn't hurt anything, it's not the most cost-effective solution.

    When you install a surge protector, wire it in parallel with the circuit to ground. It should be wired properly with the shortest possible path to ground. In any case, many surge protectors won't hold up against direct lightning strikes, but they will protect the equipment from power surges after power comes back on or constant overvoltage.

    Our company, Kalos Services, now uses DITEK's Kool Guard 2 as our surge protector and voltage monitor of choice. They also provide warranties for their products, which have come in handy for customers.

    Learn more about the DITEK Kool Guard 2 at https://www.diteksurgeprotection.com/product-series/intelligent-voltage-monitoring/.

    Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool.

    Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 6th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium.

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    5 mins
  • The Cornerstones of Inverter Equipment Commissioning

    The Cornerstones of Inverter Equipment Commissioning
    Apr 10 2025
    In this podcast episode, HVAC professionals Chris Hughes and Adam Mufich discuss the intricate challenges technicians face when commissioning modern inverter-based heating and cooling systems. Unlike traditional single-stage or two-stage HVAC equipment, inverter systems introduce a new level of complexity that can leave even experienced technicians feeling uncertain about proper installation and startup procedures. The presentation highlights a fundamental shift in how HVAC systems operate, moving from straightforward single-stage systems to sophisticated inverter-based technologies that modulate compressor, fan, and refrigerant flow dynamically. This technological evolution creates significant challenges for technicians, who previously could rely on simple, consistent commissioning processes. The speakers emphasize that modern inverter systems require a much more nuanced approach, with specific temperature ranges, wait times, and verification methods that are not always clearly documented in manufacturer manuals. Recognizing the industry-wide need for clarity, Chris and Adam have developed a comprehensive spreadsheet resource that consolidates commissioning information across multiple HVAC brands. Their goal is to empower technicians by providing accessible, standardized guidance for working with these complex systems. By sharing their research and encouraging collaboration, they aim to address what they see as a critical gap in manufacturer support and technical documentation. The podcast serves as both an educational resource and a call to action for HVAC professionals and manufacturers alike. Chris and Adam argue that the industry needs more transparency, better documentation, and a collective effort to standardize inverter system commissioning practices. Their work represents a significant step towards demystifying these advanced HVAC technologies and ensuring that technicians can confidently and effectively install and service modern heating and cooling equipment. Key Topics Covered: Differences between single-stage, two-stage, and inverter HVAC systemsCommissioning challenges with modern inverter technologiesCritical factors in proper system startup, including: Outdoor and indoor temperature requirementsWait times for system stabilizationRefrigerant charging methodsAirflow measurement and verification The importance of precise refrigerant charging (superheat and subcooling)Challenges with manufacturer documentation and technical supportThe need for standardized commissioning procedures across HVAC brandsStrategies for verifying system performance during commissioningThe speakers' collaborative effort to create a comprehensive inverter system commissioning guide Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool. Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 6th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium. Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android
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    47 mins
  • Roman SpeakPipe VRF - Short #235

    Roman SpeakPipe VRF - Short #235
    Apr 8 2025

    In this short podcast episode, Roman Baugh takes over the HVAC School podcast to answer a listener-submitted question about VRF (or VRV) system evacuation.

    Evacuation is a critical step of making repairs on VRF systems, which are very diverse and versatile but require a high level of understanding. VRF systems have multiple indoor units per outdoor unit, and they achieve that with the help of several components and accessories down the refrigerant line that can pose issues in evacuation and pressure testing.

    In heat recovery units, some manufacturers use solenoid valves (or even electronic expansion valves) in branch selector boxes or branch collector boxes. These valves act as little traffic guards, and the system needs to be put in its refrigerant recovery or vacuuming mode. If not, then you won't be able to evacuate all of the refrigerant and non-condensables from the system. Even if the system passes a decay test, contamination is a major concern when the system starts up and the valves open (due to nitrogen and oxygen mixing with pure refrigerant being put into the system).

    You can trust and verify that the system is in its proper operating mode at the thermostat to ensure that the valves are open 100% and ready for evacuation or pressure testing. Failure to do so not only poses a contamination risk but likely won't maintain its pressure during the pressure test. Assumption or trust alone is not enough.

    Heat pumps only have two lines, and the vacuum pulls from both sides of the valve. There's less of an issue because there are no branch selector or collector boxes, but it's still good to ensure that the valves are responding and communicating.

    Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool.

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    9 mins
  • 10 Things I've Learned In the Last 10 Years

    10 Things I've Learned In the Last 10 Years
    Apr 3 2025
    This podcast episode is of Bryan's session from the HVAC School Symposium, "10 Things I've Learned in the Last 10 Years." Delivered as HVAC School approaches its 10-year milestone and Kalos hits 20 years, Bryan blends technical know-how with personal stories, revealing how his “expertise” is a product of constant learning—often from the very audience he’s addressing. Bryan’s presentation weaves together practical HVAC lessons and relatable anecdotes, offering a glimpse into his growth as a technician, educator, and leader. He tackles wire sizing versus breaker sizing, debunking outdated myths tied to the National Electrical Code and sharing tales of sparring with inspectors over code-compliant innovations. On vent sweating and duct leakage, he provides actionable fixes—like sealing boots and tackling attic moisture—while urging techs to look beyond bandaids. Bryan also dives into coil corrosion, distinguishing formicary from galvanic causes and advocating for field-driven research over manufacturer spin. His interactive style shines as he pauses for audience questions, fostering a dynamic exchange where attendees refine his insights. The talk balances technical depth with human wisdom, spotlighting patience, joy, and consistency as cornerstones of his journey. Bryan recounts Eureka moments—like unraveling why high-latent markets defy evaporator temperature expectations—and credits mentors like Jim Bergmann and peers like Jordan Cummings for sharpening his perspective. He wraps up with a personal touch, addressing work-life balance as a father of 10 and business owner, advocating for mutual sacrifice with family over unilateral trade-offs. Topics Covered: Wire Sizing vs. Breaker Sizing: Debunks NEC myths and shares strategies for navigating inspector challenges. Vent Sweating Solutions: Offers practical fixes like sealing boots and managing attic moisture sources. Evaporator Temperature in High-Latent Markets: Explains unexpected suction pressure behavior with lower airflow. Control Layers in Ducts and Walls: Clarifies roles of vapor, air, and thermal barriers in system design. Formicary vs. Galvanic Corrosion: Differentiates coil leak causes, highlighting VOCs and flux issues. Low-Level CO Monitoring: Stresses its importance for safety in homes with combustion appliances. Duct Leakage: Links leaks to moisture and pressure woes, with visual diagnostic tips. Filtration Importance: Pushes for larger, sealed filters over inadequate factory setups. Compression Ratio and Dehumidification: Explores why ductless/inverter systems falter at moisture removal. Personal Growth and Joy: Ties patience, consistency, and community to a rewarding career. Work-Life Balance: Shares lessons on balancing family and work through shared sacrifice. Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool. Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 6th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium. Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android
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    1 hr and 23 mins
  • R290 as a Drop In? - Short #234

    R290 as a Drop In? - Short #234
    Apr 1 2025

    In this short podcast episode, Bryan answers a listener-submitted question about using R-290 as a drop-in refrigerant for R-22 systems. It is NOT safe to use R-290 as a drop-in, but there are some similar properties between the two and some interesting thought experiments within this topic.

    R-290 is propane, a hydrocarbon that belongs to the family of natural refrigerants. R-22 is an HCFC refrigerant that has undergone a manufacturing/importation phaseout in the USA. They are both single-component refrigerants, not blends. Both of them have similar operating pressures and oil carry. However, the latent heat of vaporization of R-290 is almost double that of R-22, which makes it extremely effective as a refrigerant.

    The main issue with using R-290 is that it is highly flammable and explosive (A3), and it has very small charges (500 grams). Around 2010, some people started selling R-290 blends as drop-in alternatives for R-22. In theory, that combination would work very well, but it is not a safe or legal option.

    R-290 is currently used in sealed, self-contained equipment. However, it could be the future, especially if our industry goes for refrigerants with lower GWPs and uses flame-free fittings and tubing cutters. It's also worth noting that A2L refrigerants do not contain R-290 or any other hydrocarbons, but it is possible that the industry will gradually embrace the more flammable refrigerants like R-290.

    Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool.

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    8 mins
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