Episodes

  • From Bitcoin Banks to Meme Coins: A Financial Exploration
    Mar 20 2025

    Old Men, New Money: Bitcoin, AI, and the Future of Digital Assets

    In this episode of 'Old Men, New Money,' hosts Phil Larmon and Douglas Borthwick delve into the rising influence of Michael Saylor and MicroStrategy's Bitcoin strategies. The discussion expands to potential government adoption of Bitcoin for strategic reserves and the economic implications. They also explore the impact of AI on job markets and corporate profits, as well as the transformative potential of blockchain for various sectors. Memecoins and digital securities receive brief mentions, reflecting ongoing trends and regulatory shifts in the digital asset landscape.

    00:00 Introduction and Announcements

    00:45 Michael Saylor and MicroStrategy's Bitcoin Strategy

    02:57 Government and Institutional Adoption of Bitcoin

    05:23 State-Level Bitcoin Initiatives

    06:28 Economic Factors Affecting Bitcoin Prices

    18:52 Meme Coins and Altcoins Discussion

    30:25 AI and Its Impact on Jobs and Investments

    34:37 Closing Remarks and Future Outlook

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    37 mins
  • Sandy Khaund on Blockchain: Enhancing Fan Experience and Engagement
    Feb 24 2025

    Revolutionizing Sports Fandom with Blockchain: An Interview with Sandy Khaund of Credenza

    In this episode of Old Men, New Money, hosts Phil Larmon and Douglas Borthwick interview Sandy Khaund, the CEO of Credenza. Sandy discusses his journey from engineering roles at major companies to founding a blockchain ticketing company, Upgraded, which was later acquired by Ticketmaster. The conversation dives into the potential of blockchain in sports and entertainment, focusing on how Credenza leverages blockchain technology to enhance fan experiences, integrate disparate data systems, and provide personalized engagement. Sandy elaborates on the concept of pseudonymous identity and how blockchain can offer secure, personalized, and innovative solutions for sports teams, fans, and sponsors alike. The episode also touches on exciting use cases with the St. Louis Blues and the broader implications for digital identity and micropayments in the sports industry.

    00:00 Introduction and Host Greetings

    00:20 Guest Introduction: Sandy Khaund

    00:48 Sandy's Career Journey

    01:30 Blockchain Ticketing with Upgraded

    03:59 Challenges and Innovations in Ticketing

    09:11 The Future of Blockchain in Ticketing

    20:04 Digital Identity and Blockchain

    29:08 Decentralized Autonomous Organizations (DAOs)

    34:14 Digital Identity and the Digital Divide

    35:36 Biometrics and Privacy Concerns

    38:10 Introduction to Credenza

    39:37 The Future of Personalized Fan Experiences

    41:51 Blockchain and Pseudonymized Identities

    46:36 Monetizing Sports Fandom

    57:25 Fan Ownership and Private Equity

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    1 hr and 8 mins
  • Jameson Lopp: From Cypherpunks to Quantum Threats
    Feb 17 2025

    Jameson Lopp Discusses Bitcoin Security, Cypherpunk Ideals, and Self-Custody Solutions

    In this episode, hosts Phil Larmon, Ali Davoudi, and Douglas Borthwick of 'Old Men, New Money' interview Jameson Lopp, a noted figure in the Bitcoin and cybersecurity space. Jameson shares his background in computer science and his journey into the world of Bitcoin. He explains the origins of Bitcoin within the cypherpunk movement and discusses its foundational principles of privacy and encryption. The conversation delves deep into Bitcoin's security features, including the concept of multi-key (multisig) security that Jameson’s company CASA specializes in. They explore CASA's innovative services for personal and enterprise Bitcoin security, including inheritance solutions, and discuss contemporary digital threats such as social engineering. Jameson also shares his concerns about the potential centralization risks posed by Bitcoin ETFs and paper Bitcoin. The episode highlights the importance of education and self-custody in the cryptocurrency world. The show concludes with Jameson promoting educational resources and encouraging the audience to take control of their digital assets.

    00:00 Introduction and Hosts

    00:22 Guest Introduction: Jameson Lopp

    00:44 Jameson's Background and Bitcoin Journey

    01:23 Understanding Cypherpunks and Bitcoin Security

    06:07 Quantum Computing and Bitcoin

    10:12 CASA: The Evolution and Security Focus

    16:53 Inheritance Solutions for Bitcoin

    25:11 Enterprise Solutions and Future Prospects

    27:11 White Collar Professionals and Bitcoin

    27:40 Evolution of the Customer Base

    28:33 Expanding Beyond Bitcoin

    29:31 Leadership Changes and Challenges

    31:28 Security Trends and Threats

    35:45 Personal Experiences with Cyber Attacks

    39:37 Advice for Bitcoin Security

    45:43 Concerns About Bitcoin Centralization

    49:36 Closing Thoughts and Recommendations



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    52 mins
  • Transforming the Music Industry with Wendy Starland
    Feb 3 2025

    Wendy Starland: Transforming Music with Blockchain and MusicSoul

    In this episode of Old Men, New Money, hosts Phil Larmon, Ali Davoudi, and Douglas Borthwick interview Wendy Starland, a renowned singer-songwriter and co-founder of MusicSoul.

    Wendy discusses her journey from being a Universal recording artist to discovering and developing Lady Gaga. She shares her diverse musical background and influences, including working with artists like Jack White, Sheryl Crow, and Wu-Tang Clan. Wendy delves into the problems in the music industry, such as monetizing music and the challenges artists face today. She introduces MusicSoul, a new music streaming platform she co-founded that aims to create a middle class for musicians by paying artists 70% of streaming and advertising revenues. The platform also integrates social media engagement, blockchain technology, and offers a marketplace. Wendy emphasizes the potential of MusicSoul to revolutionize the music industry by removing financial hurdles for artists and providing brands a new way to connect with consumers.

    00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction

    00:38 Wendy Starland's Musical Journey

    02:34 Discovering Lady Gaga

    05:19 Music Industry Insights and Tokenization

    08:25 Married to Music: A Personal Anecdote

    13:05 Musical Inspirations and Career Highlights

    19:47 Impact of Social Media on Music

    22:25 Advice for Aspiring Artists

    25:49 Introducing MusicSoul

    26:45 The Harsh Reality of Music Streaming

    27:35 Creating a Middle Class for Musicians

    27:41 How AI Matches Artists with Brands

    29:41 Advertising Integration in Music Soul

    30:53 Global Reach and Licensing

    32:06 Empowering Artists and Consumers

    35:59 Building a Super App for Music

    39:42 Challenges and Future Prospects

    46:33 Engaging Brands and Investors

    48:06 Conclusion and Contact Information



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    49 mins
  • Unpacking the Latest Cryptocurrency Trends: Trump Coin, XRP, Bitcoin, and Tokenization
    Jan 30 2025

    Old Men, New Money: The Trump Coin Controversy and Beyond

    In this episode of 'Old Men, New Money,' hosts Phil Larmon, Ali Davoudi, and Douglas Borthwick discuss the recent developments in the cryptocurrency world, especially focusing on Trump's involvement with the Trump Coin and its implications. They explore the significance of meme coins, the transparency of blockchain, and the role of prominent political figures in the crypto space. The conversation also covers various other crypto topics such as the potential impact of Elon Musk's X payments, the role of Dogecoin, and the strategic use of XRP. They delve into the increasing interest from central banks and governments in Bitcoin, highlighting how institutional participation influences market dynamics. Additionally, the discussion touches on tokenization of pre-IPO stocks and the future of crypto-friendly administration. Closing the episode, they tease an upcoming interview with Wendy Starland who will discuss blockchain's role in the music industry.

    00:00 Introduction of the Full Crew

    00:09 Trump Coin Controversy

    06:05 Crypto Market Dynamics

    10:09 Ripple and XRP Debate

    13:30 Bitcoin's Institutional Adoption

    18:48 Synthetic Contracts and Market Manipulation

    21:37 Elon Musk and X Payments

    21:58 Exploring the Super App Concept

    23:05 Deep Seek: A New AI Competitor

    24:06 Implications of AI Advancements

    30:54 Tokenized Pre-IPO Stocks

    36:00 MicroStrategy and Bitcoin Investments

    40:37 Banks and Bitcoin Custody

    44:45 Conclusion and Upcoming Interview



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    46 mins
  • Ali Davoudi: Crypto Journeys and Aviation Ventures
    Jan 29 2025

    Meet Ali Davoudi: From Bitcoin Maximalist to Aviation Tycoon

    In this episode of 'Old Men, New Money,' hosts Phil Larmon and Douglas Borthwick welcome their new permanent crew member, Ali Davoudi. Ali, a long-time acquaintance of Phil's, shares his journey into the world of cryptocurrency, starting with his skepticism about the TARP Act in 2011. As a staunch Bitcoin maximalist, he discusses his distrust in central banks and other altcoins. Ali's career spans numerous ventures, from running a successful software company and dabbling in online tobacco sales to owning a minority stake in Million Air, a private aviation company, and other diverse businesses. He highlights his extensive entrepreneurial background, his unique entry into aviation, and the broader implications of blockchain technology in various industries.

    00:00 Introduction to the Hosts

    00:23 Ali Davoudi's Journey into Crypto

    01:50 Bitcoin Maximalism and Investment Philosophy

    03:21 Ali's Professional Background

    04:48 Venturing into Aviation

    11:18 Blockchain in Various Industries

    13:07 Conclusion and Farewell



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    13 mins
  • Navigating 2025: Bitcoin, Innovation, and Market Dynamics
    Jan 8 2025

    In the first episode of season two, hosts Phil Larmon and Douglas Borthwick ring in the New Year 2025, discussing key trends and predictions for Bitcoin and the broader cryptocurrency landscape. The episode features an in-depth analysis of Michael Saylor's strategic investments through MicroStrategy, the impact of volatility on new Bitcoin investors, and the potential edge of regulatory changes under Canada, and the incoming Trump administration. They also delve into the growing interest in crypto and large-scale tokenization of assets. Additionally, the hosts introduce a new co-host, Ali Davoudi, set to bring his entrepreneurial expertise and vibrant personality to the show. The episode highlights the increasing subscriber base and continued growth of 'Old Men, New Money,' encouraging listeners to engage and follow on various platforms.

    00:00 Welcome to Old Men, New Money

    00:56 Michael Saylor's Bitcoin Strategy

    04:10 Bitcoin Volatility and Long-Term Strategy

    07:16 Nation States and Strategic Bitcoin Reserves

    14:30 XRP's Comeback and Regulatory Changes

    18:04 Tokenization of Assets and Future of Trading

    25:34 AI's Impact on Financial Markets

    29:35 Introducing New Co-Host Ali Davoudi

    30:54 Season 2 Kickoff and Future Plans



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    33 mins
  • Underwater Drones and Digital Treasure: Navigating Modern Marine Adventures (E9)
    Dec 7 2024

    Exploring the Future of Treasure Hunting with Cutting-Edge Technology: An Interview with the Team Behind Treasure Experience

    In this episode of 'Old Men, New Money,' hosts Phil Larmon and Douglas Borthwick sit down with Marc and Krist Geriene, CEOs of Treasure Experience, along with CTO Mike Bomhoff. The discussion dives into the pioneering journey of Treasure Experience, one of the first companies to undertake a security token raise. Marc introduces their commitment to commercial archaeology and marine exploration, focusing on innovative underwater drones for shipwreck recovery. Krist and Mike elaborate on the technological advancements and AI integrations they are utilizing, as well as their past successes in treasure hunting across multiple regions. The conversation transitions to the practical aspects and challenges including piracy, security, and the financial intricacies behind their expeditions. The hosts also explore the media and educational potential of Treasure Experience and its unique approach to engaging a broader audience through digital securities and participatory treasure hunts.

    00:00 Introduction to Old Men, New Money

    00:13 Meet the Treasure Experience Team

    03:52 Innovations in Underwater Technology

    08:11 Challenges and Successes in Marine Exploration

    10:53 Applications Beyond Treasure Hunting

    19:57 Artificial Intelligence in Marine Research

    24:06 Collaborations and Future Prospects

    25:22 Exciting Past and Future Treasure Hunts

    26:15 Krist's Most Valuable Find

    27:14 Global Treasure Hunting Adventures

    27:42 Upcoming Expeditions and Projects

    31:57 Navigating Legal and Jurisdictional Challenges

    36:30 Piracy and Security Measures

    40:15 Media and Public Engagement

    42:36 Digital Security Tokens and Investment

    49:32 Conclusion and Future Prospects



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    51 mins