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Recruiting Conversations

Recruiting Conversations

By: Richard Milligan
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Welcome to the Recruiting Conversations Podcast, a conversation designed to help Recruiting Leaders who manage a team as well as recruit. Richard Milligan is a speaker, author, strategist, and recruiting coach who built 21 teams as a Recruiting Leader.4C Recruiting 2019 Economics Marketing Marketing & Sales
Episodes
  • High-Touch at Scale: How to Guide Your Team to Personalize Value Adds Without Burning Out
    Jun 3 2025

    If you're serious about building a high-trust, high-retention culture, personalization matters. But how do you scale those handwritten notes, thoughtful gifts, and one-on-one moments without burning yourself—or your team—out?

    In this episode of Recruiting Conversations, I walk through a step-by-step framework to institutionalize care inside your culture. I’ll show you how to move from random acts of kindness to intentional rhythms of significance that don’t just look good—they build loyalty and attract better talent.

    Episode Breakdown

    [00:00] Introduction – The leadership challenge: how to personalize value adds without burning out.
    [01:00] Personalization vs. Automation – Why automated systems can’t replace intentional human touchpoints.
    [01:30] Step 1: Shift the Mindset – From occasional gestures to systemized care moments.
    [02:00] Step 2: Create a Shared Playbook – Give your team a menu of high-touch actions to draw from:

    • Handwritten notes
    • Milestone cards
    • Book gifts
    • Welcome kits
    • Video shoutouts

    [03:00] Step 3: Assign Ownership – Build a “care team” and give them freedom, budget, and responsibility to lead the rhythm.
    [03:30] Step 4: Tie It to Culture – Reinforce your values through the touchpoints. Show people what “living the mission” looks like.
    [04:30] Step 5: Track It – Use a Google Sheet, Trello board, or CRM tab to log every gesture, who received it, and why.
    [05:30] Final Shift – You’re not scaling volume. You’re scaling intentionality—doing the right thing for the right people at the right time.
    [06:00] Final Challenge – Define your five core touchpoints. Then pick one way to systematize them this week.

    Key Takeaways
    • Systemize the Heartbeat – Make personalized leadership part of your culture’s rhythm, not an afterthought.

    • Give the Team a Menu – Most people want to care—they just need ideas and structure.

    • Build a Culture of Care – Highlight moments that align with your values. Make it part of the identity.

    • Track It to Scale It – Thoughtful doesn't mean chaotic. Structure creates sustainability.

    • Lead with Intentionality – You don’t need more volume. You need more moments that actually matter.

    In a world full of automation and shortcuts, the leaders who lead with care always stand out—and they build teams that last.

    Want help creating a high-touch leadership rhythm inside your team? Subscribe to my weekly email at 4crecruiting.com or book a session at bookrichardnow.com. Let’s scale your leadership without losing your personal touch.

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    7 mins
  • Shifting From Producer to Recruiter: How to Flip Your Social Brand and Attract Top Talent
    May 27 2025

    If you’re still posting like a top producer but expecting people to follow you like a top leader, it’s time for a shift. In this episode of Recruiting Conversations, I break down how to reframe your social media presence to attract talent, not just clients.

    Your digital brand is your recruiting reputation. I’ll walk you through a proven framework to flip your message from “I close deals” to “I build leaders.” Because if you want top talent to follow you, you need to show up like someone worth following.

    Episode Breakdown

    [00:00] Introduction – The disconnect between producer-style social posts and recruiting outcomes.
    [01:00] Why Your Brand Isn’t Working – Your profile says top producer when it needs to say top leader.
    [01:30] Step 1: Define What You Want to Be Known For – Focus on your vision, your value, and your voice.
    [02:30] Step 2: Elevate the Conversation – Talk less about volume. Talk more about growth, mentorship, and development.
    [03:30] Step 3: Document Your Leadership – Share real moments, coaching sessions, growth wins, behind-the-scenes leadership insights.
    [04:30] Step 4: Build a Consistent Posting Rhythm – Use a weekly content cadence that includes vision, wins, insights, values, and gratitude.
    [05:30] Step 5: Remove Distractions – Market updates and closings? Move those to stories or separate accounts to avoid confusing your audience.
    [06:00] Coaching Case Study – How one leader went from “Superman” producer to team-building recruiter in just six weeks, and started getting inbound interest fast.
    [07:00] Final Challenge – Audit your social media today. If your last 10 posts don’t reflect leadership, change the message.

    Key Takeaways
    • People Follow Leaders, Not Closers – If your feed looks like a producer’s, it’s time to evolve your message.

    • Vision, Value, Voice – Define and share what you stand for and who you're building with.

    • Make It About the Team – Highlight others. Show development. Move from “look at me” to “look at us.”

    • Be Consistent – Social branding works when you show up frequently and with clarity.

    • Your Brand Is Either Attracting or Repelling – Be intentional. Start speaking directly to the people you want to lead.

    Your next recruit is already watching. Now it’s time to give them a reason to reach out. Shift your message, step into your leadership, and let your brand do the recruiting for you.

    Want help building a social presence that actually brings talent to you? Subscribe to my weekly email at 4crecruiting.com or book a strategy session at bookrichardnow.com. Let’s flip the script together.

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    7 mins
  • Navigating Non-Competes and Sensitive Transitions Without Losing the Recruit or Your Integrity
    May 20 2025

    What do you do when a recruit suddenly brings up a non-compete, emotional loyalty, or fear around leaving their current role? This is one of the trickiest moments in recruiting, and how you handle it will either build trust or break it.

    In this episode of Recruiting Conversations, I walk through the posture, language, and mindset shifts that will help you navigate sensitive transitions with professionalism and integrity. This isn’t about pushing people over the line, it’s about becoming the kind of leader people feel safe following.

    Episode Breakdown

    [00:00] Introduction – Why most leaders freeze when a recruit mentions a non-compete or emotional hesitation.
    [01:00] Acknowledge the Weight – Before anything else, validate what they’re feeling. Don’t dismiss it.
    [01:30] Lead With Empathy – A simple phrase: “Let’s slow down and walk through this the right way.”
    [02:00] Stay in Your Lane – Don’t give legal advice. Offer to connect them with a trusted attorney.
    [02:30] The Professional Position – Show maturity by prioritizing their well-being over your urgency.
    [03:30] Emotional Loyalty Is Real – Sometimes it’s not legal, it’s personal. Help them reframe it without shame.
    [04:00] Long-Term Perspective – Ask: “Ten years from now, what do you want to be proud of?”
    [05:00] Go Slow to Go Deep – Allow them the time they need. No pressure. Just partnership.
    [05:30] Build the Right Reputation – Integrity attracts. Your brand is built in moments like this.

    Key Takeaways
    • Validate Their Fear – Just because you think it’s minor doesn’t mean it doesn’t feel major to them.

    • Offer Support, Not Solutions – Be a guide, not a legal expert. Connect them to the right help.

    • Honor Their Loyalty – Don’t fight it. Use it as a mirror of their values and a reason to lead them well.

    • Ask Bigger Questions – Help them think long-term. Align the next move with their vision, not their fear.

    • Integrity Is Your Advantage – Leaders who slow down and protect the recruit build brands that attract.

    You don’t need to push to win. You just need to walk with people in the moments that matter. Handle transitions with care, and you won’t just close more recruits, you’ll become a leader worth following.

    Want help building a recruiting process that balances strategy and integrity? Subscribe to my weekly email at 4crecruiting.com or book a session at bookrichardnow.com. Let’s build your brand the right way.

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    7 mins
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