In this episode of the Hook Better Leads Podcast, Tim Brown interviews Randy Hurtado of DTY Roofing—who shares how he transformed a career in IT into a $40M/year roofing business by mastering the art of strategic referrals. Discover how realtors, insurance agents, and even competitors became lead sources, why generosity in business pays off, and how to engineer referrals without sounding salesy.

Whether you’re a roofer, marketer, or any home service pro, this episode will reshape how you view networking, value delivery, and partnerships. Learn the systems behind Randy’s incredible referral engine and how you can apply the same framework to your own business.

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In this episode of the Hook Better Leads Podcast, Tim Brown sits down with financing expert Christopher Scoville from Improveitfy to talk about one of the most misunderstood tools in home services: financing. Discover why offering payment options isn’t just an afterthought — it’s a powerful sales and marketing strategy that increases close rates, ticket sizes, and customer satisfaction.

They cover:
• The biggest mistakes contractors make when offering financing
• Why “leading with affordability” increases conversions
• How HVAC pros and roofers can shift from order takers to real closers
• Psychological pricing and website strategies that reduce abandoned leads
• What financing info should (and shouldn’t) be on your website

🔥 Whether you’re a roofer, HVAC pro, or home service marketer, this episode will help you turn “No’s” into “Yes’s” by meeting customers where they’re at.

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🚀 Want to create unstoppable momentum in your contracting business?
Crystal Williams from Lemon Seed Marketing joins Tim Brown to reveal how contractors can build their own “hot streaks” by blending smart branding, consistent marketing, and strategic pivots.

Learn why roofing and home service businesses can’t just chase leads — they need to build lasting brands that outsmart competitors. From marketing experiments that win, to operational shifts that fuel growth, Crystal shares battle-tested insights you can apply today.

🔥 Topics Covered:
• How to balance marketing experiments and proven strategies
• Why roofing companies need mascots and stronger community brands
• Building momentum that private equity-backed companies can’t replicate
• Crystal’s biggest marketing wins (and painful lessons)
• How to spot when it’s time to pivot or press harder

🎯 Ready to turn your marketing into a magnet for leads? Watch now!