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Running--State of the Sport

Running--State of the Sport

By: Amby Burfoot and George Hirsch
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The podcast where we talk to the smartest, most informed, most influential, and sometimes fastest runners on the planet.Amby Burfoot and George Hirsch Running & Jogging
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  • David Roche, podcaster and top ultra runner
    May 31 2025

    David Roche is producer of one of the world’s most popular podcasts, “Some Work, All Play,” with his cohost and wife, Megan. He’s also a contender to win the Western States 100 Miler at the end of June. That’s a rare combination.

    His back story is even more amazing. A little more than a year ago, Roche was seriously injured when struck by a car while bicycling a favorite road near Boulder, CO. At that time, the Duke Law School grad and ultramarathon coach had never even attempted a 100-mile. But last summer he broke a longstanding course record in the Leadville Trail 100, and several months later scored a convincing win (in torrid temps) in the Javelina 100.

    A fan of “Hamilton” the musical (“I’m not givin’ away my shot”) and Simone Biles (“F___ around and find out”), Roche professes to believe that almost everyone’s “amazing” and should reach high for their personal goals. Megan is both his coach, a champion ultra runner on her own, and an M.D. and PhD graduate from Stanford University. Every week, their pod covers the latest research findings about running, as they attempt to “science the sh__” out of endurance performance.

    You can learn more about David & Megan Roche at their SWAPrunning.com website, or at David's Instagram page.

    David's quest to win Western States has been chronicled here in a YouTube series by video producer Cody Bare.

    Key Sections Of The Podcast

    0:00

    Introduction to David Roche: The Rise of an Ultra Runner

    10:33

    David's Background: Life, Family, and Coaching

    13:43

    The Dynamic Duo: David and Megan Roche

    16:47

    The Birth of a Podcast: Authenticity and Popularity

    19:44

    Language and Honesty: The Explicit Nature of the Podcast

    22:37

    Uplifting Messages: The Importance of Kindness

    25:55

    Science vs. Intuition: Balancing Training Approaches

    28:42

    Training Insights: The Art of Adaptation

    31:44

    Overcoming Challenges: The Impact of a Serious Accident

    34:39

    Life Lessons: Embracing Mortality and Racing

    37:43

    The Athletic Journey: From Football to Ultra Running

    38:46

    The Journey to Natural Running

    40:13

    Genetics and Athletic Performance

    43:01

    Rapid Rise in Ultra Running

    47:35

    Mental Resilience and Self-Confidence

    51:32

    The Competitive Landscape of Ultra Running

    54:28

    Key Factors for Success at Western States

    56:58

    Reflections on the Evolution of Running

    01:01:09

    The State of the Sport of Running

    01:03:53

    Wishes for the Future

    WHERE TO FIND "RUNNING: STATE OF THE SPORT"

    Use your smartphone to download podcast apps from Apple, Spotify, Pandora, or YouTube Podcasts. Once you've selected your favorite app, search for "running state of the sport."

    With your computer, tablet, or smartphone, you can also listen direct to “Running: State of the Sport” at the below internet links.

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    "Running: State of the Sport" is brought to you by MarathonHandbook.com and RunLongRunHealthy.com. Marathon Handbook is the world’s leading marathon website, with a special focus on trustworthy running information and free, runner-tested training plans for all ability levels.

    "Run Long, Run Healthy" is a weekly newsletter focused on the newest, most scientific, and most useful training advice for runners. It was launched by Amby in 2021, and is now edited by Brady Holmer, exercise physiologist and 2:24 marathon runner.

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    1 hr and 9 mins
  • Alistair Cragg, coach of Puma Elite
    May 17 2025

    In this episode, we chat with Alistair Cragg, coach of the highly successful Puma Elite Running team based in the Research Triangle of North Carolina. Cragg was a 3-time Irish Olympian with a lifetime best of 13:03 for 5000 meters. His wife and co-coach, Amy Hastings Cragg, represented the U.S. in the 2016 Olympic Marathon after winning the Olympic Marathon Trials that year.

    In February, 2024, Puma runner Fiona O'Keeffe won the Marathon Trials in Orlando in her very first marathon (she qualified with a fast half-marathon time. In early 2025, Puma runners continued to excel on the roads.

    At the USA Half Marathon Championships in Atlanta, both Taylor Roe and Alex Maier took the individual titles. Roe subsequently ran an eye-popping 49:53 in the Cherry Blossom 10-Mile, while Maier won the Dusseldorf Marathon in 2:08:33.

    Meanwhile O'Keeffe has healed from the injury that sidelined her at the Paris Olympics, and is training hard again. In our conversation with Alistair Cragg, he said that he could see her getting down to 2:15 in the marathon.

    Podcast segments include:

    Introduction to Alistair Cragg

    01:26

    Life as a Co-Coach and Family Man

    04:41

    Building the Puma Elite Running Team

    06:10

    Spotlight on Fiona O'Keeffe

    12:16

    Challenges at the Paris Olympics

    19:05

    The Future of Puma Athletes

    25:31

    Fiona's Journey and Team Dynamics

    27:38

    Success of Male Athletes in Dusseldorf

    28:45

    Alex Maier's Potential and Training Philosophy

    31:27

    The Impact of Shoe Technology on Performance

    36:07

    Balancing Training and Injury Prevention

    39:56

    Training Philosophy and Building Strength

    46:25

    The State of Distance Running

    49:44

    Puma is now claiming to have ⁠the world's fastest running shoe.⁠ Its athletes appear to be equally fast.

    For more about the Puma Elite runners, check out ⁠PumaEliteRunning.com⁠ and follow the team on ⁠Instagram.

    WHERE TO FIND "RUNNING: STATE OF THE SPORT"

    Use your smartphone to download podcast apps from Apple, Spotify, Pandora, or YouTube Podcasts. Once you've selected your favorite app, search for "running state of the sport."


    With your computer, tablet, or smartphone, you can also listen direct to “Running: State of the Sport” at the below internet links.

    Apple

    Spotify

    AudiblePandora

    I Heart Radio

    YouTube

    "Running: State of the Sport" is brought to you by MarathonHandbook.com and RunLongRunHealthy.com. Marathon Handbook is the world’s leading marathon website, with a special focus on trustworthy running information and free, runner-tested training plans for all ability levels.

    "Run Long, Run Healthy" is a weekly newsletter focused on the newest, most scientific, and most useful training advice for runners. It was launched by Amby in 2021, and is now edited by Brady Holmer, exercise physiologist and 2:24 marathon runner.

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    1 hr
  • Lisa Weidenbach Rainsberger
    Apr 14 2025

    In this episode of "Running: State of the Sport," Lisa Weidenbach Rainsberger reflects on her Boston Marathon win 40 years ago in 1985. She also traces the amazing arc of her running career from All American swimmer to college track star to youthful marathon standout.

    Lisa is widely known for her three consecutive fourth-place finishes in the Olympic Trials Marathon, but she doesn’t shed any tears over these disappointments. Instead, she celebrates the many positive aspects of her long racing and coaching career.

    She also discusses how she and her daughter, Katie, negotiated a healthy mother-daughter, coach-athlete relationship. This is a big story in running now, due to the highly publicized Ingebrigtsen family lawsuit in Norway.

    Some highlights moments in the podcast

    00:00

    Celebrating a Marathon Legend

    10:00

    Lisa's Journey: From Swimming to Running

    13:20

    The Boston Marathon Experience

    16:13

    Olympic Trials and Career Highlights

    19:02

    Transitioning from Swimming to Running

    22:20

    Coaching Insights and Modern Training

    25:04

    The Evolution of Running Technology

    28:04

    Reflections on Female Sports and Future Aspirations

    51:07

    Lisa Rainsberger: A Journey Through Running

    53:21

    Coaching Dynamics: The Parent-Child Relationship in Sports

    56:13

    WHERE TO FIND "RUNNING: STATE OF THE SPORT"

    Use your smartphone to download podcast apps from Apple, Spotify, Pandora, or YouTube Podcasts. Once you've selected your favorite app, search for "running state of the sport."

    With your computer, tablet, or smartphone, you can also listen direct to “Running: State of the Sport” at the below internet links.

    Apple

    Spotify

    Audible

    Pandora

    I Heart Radio

    YouTube


    "Running: State of the Sport" is brought to you by MarathonHandbook.com and RunLongRunHealthy.com. Marathon Handbook is the world’s leading marathon website, with a special focus on trustworthy running information and free, runner-tested training plans for all ability levels.

    "Run Long, Run Healthy" is a weekly newsletter focused on the newest, most scientific, and most useful training advice for runners. It was launched by Amby in 2021, and is now edited by Brady Holmer, exercise physiologist and 2:36 marathon runner.

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    52 mins
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