• David Roche, podcaster and top ultra runner
    May 31 2025

    David Roche is producer of one of the world’s most popular podcasts, “Some Work, All Play,” with his cohost and wife, Megan. He’s also a contender to win the Western States 100 Miler at the end of June. That’s a rare combination.

    His back story is even more amazing. A little more than a year ago, Roche was seriously injured when struck by a car while bicycling a favorite road near Boulder, CO. At that time, the Duke Law School grad and ultramarathon coach had never even attempted a 100-mile. But last summer he broke a longstanding course record in the Leadville Trail 100, and several months later scored a convincing win (in torrid temps) in the Javelina 100.

    A fan of “Hamilton” the musical (“I’m not givin’ away my shot”) and Simone Biles (“F___ around and find out”), Roche professes to believe that almost everyone’s “amazing” and should reach high for their personal goals. Megan is both his coach, a champion ultra runner on her own, and an M.D. and PhD graduate from Stanford University. Every week, their pod covers the latest research findings about running, as they attempt to “science the sh__” out of endurance performance.

    You can learn more about David & Megan Roche at their SWAPrunning.com website, or at David's Instagram page.

    David's quest to win Western States has been chronicled here in a YouTube series by video producer Cody Bare.

    Key Sections Of The Podcast

    0:00

    Introduction to David Roche: The Rise of an Ultra Runner

    10:33

    David's Background: Life, Family, and Coaching

    13:43

    The Dynamic Duo: David and Megan Roche

    16:47

    The Birth of a Podcast: Authenticity and Popularity

    19:44

    Language and Honesty: The Explicit Nature of the Podcast

    22:37

    Uplifting Messages: The Importance of Kindness

    25:55

    Science vs. Intuition: Balancing Training Approaches

    28:42

    Training Insights: The Art of Adaptation

    31:44

    Overcoming Challenges: The Impact of a Serious Accident

    34:39

    Life Lessons: Embracing Mortality and Racing

    37:43

    The Athletic Journey: From Football to Ultra Running

    38:46

    The Journey to Natural Running

    40:13

    Genetics and Athletic Performance

    43:01

    Rapid Rise in Ultra Running

    47:35

    Mental Resilience and Self-Confidence

    51:32

    The Competitive Landscape of Ultra Running

    54:28

    Key Factors for Success at Western States

    56:58

    Reflections on the Evolution of Running

    01:01:09

    The State of the Sport of Running

    01:03:53

    Wishes for the Future

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    "Run Long, Run Healthy" is a weekly newsletter focused on the newest, most scientific, and most useful training advice for runners. It was launched by Amby in 2021, and is now edited by Brady Holmer, exercise physiologist and 2:24 marathon runner.

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    1 hr and 9 mins
  • Alistair Cragg, coach of Puma Elite
    May 17 2025

    In this episode, we chat with Alistair Cragg, coach of the highly successful Puma Elite Running team based in the Research Triangle of North Carolina. Cragg was a 3-time Irish Olympian with a lifetime best of 13:03 for 5000 meters. His wife and co-coach, Amy Hastings Cragg, represented the U.S. in the 2016 Olympic Marathon after winning the Olympic Marathon Trials that year.

    In February, 2024, Puma runner Fiona O'Keeffe won the Marathon Trials in Orlando in her very first marathon (she qualified with a fast half-marathon time. In early 2025, Puma runners continued to excel on the roads.

    At the USA Half Marathon Championships in Atlanta, both Taylor Roe and Alex Maier took the individual titles. Roe subsequently ran an eye-popping 49:53 in the Cherry Blossom 10-Mile, while Maier won the Dusseldorf Marathon in 2:08:33.

    Meanwhile O'Keeffe has healed from the injury that sidelined her at the Paris Olympics, and is training hard again. In our conversation with Alistair Cragg, he said that he could see her getting down to 2:15 in the marathon.

    Podcast segments include:

    Introduction to Alistair Cragg

    01:26

    Life as a Co-Coach and Family Man

    04:41

    Building the Puma Elite Running Team

    06:10

    Spotlight on Fiona O'Keeffe

    12:16

    Challenges at the Paris Olympics

    19:05

    The Future of Puma Athletes

    25:31

    Fiona's Journey and Team Dynamics

    27:38

    Success of Male Athletes in Dusseldorf

    28:45

    Alex Maier's Potential and Training Philosophy

    31:27

    The Impact of Shoe Technology on Performance

    36:07

    Balancing Training and Injury Prevention

    39:56

    Training Philosophy and Building Strength

    46:25

    The State of Distance Running

    49:44

    Puma is now claiming to have ⁠the world's fastest running shoe.⁠ Its athletes appear to be equally fast.

    For more about the Puma Elite runners, check out ⁠PumaEliteRunning.com⁠ and follow the team on ⁠Instagram.

    WHERE TO FIND "RUNNING: STATE OF THE SPORT"

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    "Running: State of the Sport" is brought to you by MarathonHandbook.com and RunLongRunHealthy.com. Marathon Handbook is the world’s leading marathon website, with a special focus on trustworthy running information and free, runner-tested training plans for all ability levels.

    "Run Long, Run Healthy" is a weekly newsletter focused on the newest, most scientific, and most useful training advice for runners. It was launched by Amby in 2021, and is now edited by Brady Holmer, exercise physiologist and 2:24 marathon runner.

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    1 hr
  • Lisa Weidenbach Rainsberger
    Apr 14 2025

    In this episode of "Running: State of the Sport," Lisa Weidenbach Rainsberger reflects on her Boston Marathon win 40 years ago in 1985. She also traces the amazing arc of her running career from All American swimmer to college track star to youthful marathon standout.

    Lisa is widely known for her three consecutive fourth-place finishes in the Olympic Trials Marathon, but she doesn’t shed any tears over these disappointments. Instead, she celebrates the many positive aspects of her long racing and coaching career.

    She also discusses how she and her daughter, Katie, negotiated a healthy mother-daughter, coach-athlete relationship. This is a big story in running now, due to the highly publicized Ingebrigtsen family lawsuit in Norway.

    Some highlights moments in the podcast

    00:00

    Celebrating a Marathon Legend

    10:00

    Lisa's Journey: From Swimming to Running

    13:20

    The Boston Marathon Experience

    16:13

    Olympic Trials and Career Highlights

    19:02

    Transitioning from Swimming to Running

    22:20

    Coaching Insights and Modern Training

    25:04

    The Evolution of Running Technology

    28:04

    Reflections on Female Sports and Future Aspirations

    51:07

    Lisa Rainsberger: A Journey Through Running

    53:21

    Coaching Dynamics: The Parent-Child Relationship in Sports

    56:13

    WHERE TO FIND "RUNNING: STATE OF THE SPORT"

    Use your smartphone to download podcast apps from Apple, Spotify, Pandora, or YouTube Podcasts. Once you've selected your favorite app, search for "running state of the sport."

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    "Running: State of the Sport" is brought to you by MarathonHandbook.com and RunLongRunHealthy.com. Marathon Handbook is the world’s leading marathon website, with a special focus on trustworthy running information and free, runner-tested training plans for all ability levels.

    "Run Long, Run Healthy" is a weekly newsletter focused on the newest, most scientific, and most useful training advice for runners. It was launched by Amby in 2021, and is now edited by Brady Holmer, exercise physiologist and 2:36 marathon runner.

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    52 mins
  • John Cahill, 101-yr-old runner
    Apr 5 2025

    In this episode of the podcast "Running: State of the Sport," hosts Amby Burfoot and George Hirsch interview John Cahill, a remarkable centenarian runner who shares his inspiring journey from starting to run at age 62 to completing marathons in his 70s and 80s. He ran a 3:05 marathon at 72 and continued to race into his 90s.

    Cahill discusses his early life, health challenges, and the joy of running, emphasizing the importance of staying active and engaged in various activities. His philosophy of 'keep moving' resonates throughout the conversation. Cahill offers valuable insights into aging, motivation, and living a full life.

    "I enjoy almost everything that I do," he says. "I have led a charmed life."

    Key Points (minutes into Cahill interview)

    00:00

    Introduction to John Cahill: A Centenarian Runner

    03:03

    John's Journey into Running

    06:01

    Overcoming Health Challenges

    09:05

    Marathon Achievements and Training Regimen

    12:09

    Early Life and Sports Background

    14:55

    Military Service and Its Impact

    18:00

    Transition from Law to Ski Lodge Owner

    20:57

    Reflections on Aging and Motivation

    23:50

    Travel Adventures and Life Philosophy

    27:00

    Final Thoughts and Wishes for the Future

    WHERE TO FIND "RUNNING: STATE OF THE SPORT"

    Use your smartphone to download podcast apps from Apple, Spotify, Pandora, or YouTube Podcasts. Once you've selected your favorite app, search for "running state of the sport."

    With your computer, tablet, or smartphone, you can also listen direct to “Running: State of the Sport” at the below internet links.

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    "Running: State of the Sport" is brought to you by MarathonHandbook.com and RunLongRunHealthy.com.

    Marathon Handbook is the world’s leading marathon website, with a special focus on trustworthy running information and free, runner-tested training plans for all ability levels.

    "Run Long, Run Healthy" is a weekly newsletter focused on the newest, most scientific, and most useful training advice for runners. It was launched by Amby in 2021, and is now edited by Brady Holmer, exercise physiologist and 2:36 marathon runner.

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    43 mins
  • Bobbi Gibb Interview
    Mar 19 2025

    In this episode, we explore the inspiring journey of Bobbi Gibb, the first woman to run the Boston Marathon, in 1966. She shares her experiences of training, the journey to Boston, and the emotional impact of crossing the finish line, all while challenging societal norms and advocating for women's rights in sports.

    Gibb also discusses her journey beyond running--including her artistic endeavors and the challenges she faced as a woman in various fields. Bobbi always emphasizes the importance of individual passion and the need for a peaceful, cooperative world.

    Podcast Chapters (indicated times from beginning of Gibb Interview)

    00:00

    Introduction to a Trailblazer

    01:05

    Bobby's Early Years and Running Journey

    02:15

    The 1965 Boston Marathon Experience

    07:05

    Facing Rejection and Finding Motivation

    15:20

    The Decision to Run in 1966

    17:23

    The Journey to Boston

    21:16

    The Marathon Experience Begins

    25:00

    Crossing the Finish Line and Its Impact

    30:37

    Breaking Barriers: Bobbi Gibb's Historic Run

    35:22

    The Press and Public Reaction: A New Era for Women

    38:17

    Persistence and Recognition: Bobbi's Continued Impact

    42:56

    Art and Legacy: Bobbi's Sculptures and Contributions

    47:45

    Facing Discrimination: Bobbi's Journey Beyond Running

    53:36

    A Vision for the Future: Bobbi's Hopes for Humanity

    WHERE TO FIND "RUNNING: STATE OF THE SPORT"

    Use your smartphone to download podcast apps from Apple, Spotify, Pandora, or YouTube Podcasts. Once you've selected your favorite app, search for "running state of the sport."

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    "Running: State of the Sport" is brought to you by MarathonHandbook.com and RunLongRunHealthy.com.

    Marathon Handbook is the world’s leading marathon website, with a special focus on trustworthy running information and free, runner-tested training plans for all ability levels.

    "Run Long, Run Healthy" is a weekly newsletter focused on the newest, most scientific, and most useful training advice for runners. It was launched by Amby in 2021, and is now edited by Brady Holmer, exercise physiologist and 2:36 marathon runner.

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    1 hr and 8 mins
  • Bill Rodgers Interview
    Mar 1 2025

    In this episode, we celebrate the 50th anniversary of Bill Rodgers's first Boston Marathon win in 1975. Bill reflects on his early struggles, the pivotal moments that reignited his passion for running, and the significance of community in the sport.

    In particular, he discusses his memorable 1975 Boston Marathon victory, the evolution of marathon running, and the challenges he faced during his Olympic journey. He also shares personal anecdotes about his experiences with runners like Frank Shorter and Alberto Salazar, his current running, and the critical role of friendship among all runners, young and old.

    Key Sections Include

    Introduction to Bill Rodgers

    Bill's Early Life and Running Journey

    The Comeback: From Quitting to Winning

    The 1975 Boston Marathon Victory

    Olympic Disappointment and Resilience

    The King of the Roads: Bill's Legacy

    Training Regimens and Strategies

    Reflections on the 1980 Olympic Boycott

    Memories of Alberto Salazar

    The Duel in the Sun: A Race to Remember

    The Journey of a Running Entrepreneur

    The Drive to Keep Running

    How to Run the Boston Marathon Course

    The State of Running Today

    Bill's Fairy Godmother Wishes for the Future

    To learn more about Bill Rodgers, visit his website at ⁠https://www.billrodgersrunningcenter.com/⁠

    WHERE TO FIND "RUNNING: STATE OF THE SPORT"

    Use your smartphone to download podcast apps from Apple, Spotify, Pandora, or YouTube Podcasts. Once you've selected your favorite app, search for "running state of the sport."

    With your computer, tablet, or smartphone, you can also listen direct to “Running: State of the Sport” at the below internet links.

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    "Running: State of the Sport" is brought to you by MarathonHandbook.com and RunLongRunHealthy.com.

    Marathon Handbook is the world’s leading marathon website, with a special focus on trustworthy running information and free, runner-tested training plans for all ability levels.

    "Run Long, Run Healthy" is a weekly newsletter focused on the newest, most scientific, and most useful training advice for runners. It was launched by Amby in 2021, and is now edited by Brady Holmer, exercise physiologist and 2:36 marathon runner.

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    1 hr and 3 mins
  • Jackie Gaughan Interview
    Feb 6 2025

    In this engaging podcast episode, Jackie Gaughan, a rising star in the marathon running scene, shares her journey, insights, and experiences in the sport. From her impressive performance at the 2024 California International Marathon to her reflections on the Olympic Trials, Gaughan (just 25) discusses her training strategies, the balance between her running career and a full-time job, and the influences that have shaped her as an athlete.

    She also addresses the state of women's marathon running and her aspirations for the future, including her preparation for this spring’s Boston Marathon.

    Learn more about Gaughan on her World Athletics profile page.

    KEY POINTS IN THE INTERVIEW

    00:00

    Introduction to Jackie Gaughan

    03:01

    Jackie's Impressive Performance at CIM

    06:01

    Training Insights and Fueling Strategies

    08:56

    Reflections on the Olympic Trials

    12:06

    Balancing Running and a Full-Time Career

    14:45

    Coaching and Training Philosophy

    18:00

    Sponsorship and Investment in Running

    21:02

    Influences and Inspirations in Running

    24:04

    Transitioning to the Marathon

    26:51

    Preparing for the Boston Marathon

    29:54

    The State of the Sport and Personal Aspirations

    WHERE TO FIND "RUNNING: STATE OF THE SPORT"

    Use your smartphone to download podcast apps from Apple, Spotify, Pandora, or YouTube Podcasts. Once you've selected your favorite app, search for "running state of the sport."

    With your computer, tablet, or smartphone, you can also listen direct to “Running: State of the Sport” at the below internet links.

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    "Running: State of the Sport" is brought to you by MarathonHandbook.com and RunLongRunHealthy.com.

    Marathon Handbook is the world’s leading marathon website, with a special focus on trustworthy running information and free, runner-tested training plans for all ability levels.

    "Run Long, Run Healthy" is a weekly newsletter focused on the newest, most scientific, and most useful training advice for runners. It was launched by Amby in 2021, and is now edited by Brady Holmer, exercise physiologist and 2:26 marathon runner.

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    46 mins
  • Ray Flynn Interview
    Jan 22 2025

    In this episode of Running State of the Sport, hosts Amby Burfoot and George Hirsch chat with Ray Flynn, a former elite miler and current athlete manager. They discuss Flynn's extensive career in athletics, his experiences at the Olympics, the evolution of athlete management, and the current state of doping in the sport.

    Flynn shares insights on the upcoming (Feb. 8) Milrose Games, the significance of the Wanamaker Mile, and his hopes for the future of track and field. The conversation highlights the importance of collaboration among athletes, coaches, and managers, as well as the need for transparency in doping.

    Key Time Points In Podcast

    Introduction to Ray Flynn's Career

    08:38

    Early Influences and Transition to Running

    11:29

    Scholarship and Cultural Transition to the US

    13:59

    NCAA vs European Club System

    14:34

    Competing with the Best Milers

    17:36

    Olympic Experiences and Expectations

    19:29

    Greatest Miler of All Time

    21:50

    Becoming an Athlete Manager

    23:41

    Managing Relationships in Athletics

    25:29

    Deena Kastor and Successful Partnerships

    27:35

    Doping in Sports and Manager Responsibility

    31:08

    Paris Olympics and Managing Podium Finishers

    34:07

    Michael Johnson's Grand Slam Track

    36:56

    Milrose Games: Insights from a Meet Director

    40:02

    Comparing Armory and Madison Square Garden

    41:58

    Inviting Jakob Ingebrigtsen to the Wanamaker Mile

    44:05

    The Mile vs 1500 Meters Debate

    45:35

    State of the Sport: Positives and Negatives

    51:00

    Fairy Godmother Wishes for the Sport

    52:44

    You can learn more about Flynn's primary business, Flynn Sports Management, here.

    WHERE TO FIND "RUNNING: STATE OF THE SPORT"

    Use your smartphone to download podcast apps from Apple, Spotify, Pandora, or YouTube Podcasts. Once you've selected your favorite app, search for "running state of the sport."

    With your computer, tablet, or smartphone, you can also listen direct to “Running: State of the Sport” at the below internet links.

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    "Running: State of the Sport" is brought to you by MarathonHandbook.com and RunLongRunHealthy.com.

    Marathon Handbook is the world’s leading marathon website, with a special focus on trustworthy running information and free, runner-tested training plans for all ability levels.

    "Run Long, Run Healthy" is Amby’s weekly newsletter with the newest, most scientific, and most useful training advice for runners.

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    57 mins
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