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The CopDoc Podcast Season 6 - Episode 140

Join us on a journey as we chat with Chief Jason Armstrong from the Apex Police Department in North Carolina, a leader who has been reshaping the face of law enforcement. Jason's path began after college with a financial reimbursement program from the Department of Justice's Police Corps program. This drew him away from dreams of the DEA or FBI toward a meaningful career in policing. He rose to Forest Park, Georgia, becoming the interim police chief. He applied and was appointed to the chief's position in Ferguson, Missouri. This episode unravels the highs and lows of his career, shedding light on his commitment to innovation in police leadership and his readiness to confront unforeseen challenges.

In our conversation with Jason, we explore the critical role of leadership in turbulent times, highlighting his efforts to insulate his department from external pressures while fostering a collaborative culture. His experiences in racially charged environments have taught him the importance of calming organizational noise and setting a clear vision with input from all department levels. Jason opens up about the significance of transparency and resilience, especially following impactful events like the Mike Brown incident, and shares how these experiences have shaped his proactive approach to community engagement and trust-building.

As Jason Armstrong approaches retirement, he reflects on the legacy he's leaving behind and the future of policing. His insights on decision-making, officer well-being, and the balance between personal and professional life are invaluable lessons for anyone in law enforcement. While acknowledging the challenges of the profession, Jason remains hopeful and dedicated to enhancing public confidence in policing, aspiring to work with agencies worldwide. Tune in to discover how his story is not just about leadership but about hope and resilience in the ever-evolving landscape of law enforcement.

Jason has written a book, entitled I'm Done Here: Leading with Intentionality to Create Lasting Impact. Out November 1, 2024!

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Season 6 - Episode 139

Chief Constable Chris Noble takes center stage as we explore his remarkable career in policing, starting from his unique upbringing in Northern Ireland during the '70s and '80s. With his father juggling roles as both a bank manager and a part-time reserve officer for the RUC, Chris was surrounded by the complexities of law enforcement from an early age. In our conversation, he shares how the seismic changes brought by the Patten Commission, including the transformation of the Royal Ulster Constabulary into the Police Service of Northern Ireland, shaped his career path and leadership ethos. Chris provides a candid look at the challenges and triumphs of these reforms, emphasizing their profound societal impact and the lessons he carried forward.

Explore Chris's transition from Northern Ireland to Humberside, England, in 2017, driven by a quest for new challenges in a struggling police force. With 21 years of experience under his belt, Chris shares his innovative leadership style that prioritizes frontline engagement over hierarchical, filtered reports. His approach encourages local officers to develop their own methods, fostering a culture of listening and collaboration. Discover how this strategy has helped revitalize morale and performance, paving the way for significant transformations within the Staffordshire Police under his leadership.

As we wrap up, the conversation shifts to the modern-day challenges faced by police forces, from managing young recruits to navigating misinformation-fueled unrest. Chris draws parallels between the UK and US policing landscapes, offering a global perspective on maintaining balance amidst contentious issues. Through his experiences, Chris highlights the importance of leadership that values diverse perspectives and the need for accountability and adaptability in an ever-evolving policing environment. This episode offers a comprehensive look at the trials and triumphs of police leadership today, promising insights for anyone interested in the future of law enforcement.

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Season 6 - Episode 138

Ever wondered how academic research can transform real-world policing? Join me as I reconnect with Brenda Bond-Fortier, a professor at Suffolk University in Boston, who shares her journey from the Lowell Police Department to academia. Brenda's passion for bridging the gap between research and practice shines through as she recounts her career under Ed Davis, her innovative role as Director of Research and Development, and her current work with 21CP Solutions. Discover how Brenda's unique insights are helping police departments across the nation implement research-driven strategies for organizational improvement.

Explore the critical role that diverse perspectives play in both healthcare and policing. Brenda and I discuss the transformative power of bringing in external experts to combat insularity and introduce fresh viewpoints. Drawing parallels with healthcare responses to crises like the pandemic and the opioid epidemic, we highlight the benefits of a multi-disciplinary approach in addressing complex social issues. In policing, this means rethinking who should be at the decision-making table to ensure comprehensive solutions, particularly for mental health and social challenges.

Leadership in policing isn't just about managing internal issues but innovation and reform. Brenda and I delve into the complexities police leaders face, such as balancing internal challenges with external expectations.

We illustrate how unconventional approaches can lead to significant changes by sharing real-world examples like offender reentry initiatives. We also explore the potential of applying the SARA model beyond crime fighting to foster continuous improvement and capacity building within police departments.

Tune in for a hopeful outlook on the positive changes in police organizations and the vital importance of meeting evolving public expectations.

Read Brenda's book:

Organizational Change in an Urban Police Department: Innovating to Reform, 1st Edition, Routledge (2020)

Find on Amazon at the link below:
https://www.amazon.com/Building-Adaptive-Police-Organization-Relationships/dp/1138190209/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3D9YGK2E8HXUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ODsrKHt4KvRW8-_1Bw3lh0jraY0HGqXVI1dk9XgLFYU.cMVtIHissXHfP_J4Ox3UQ_txQdITxIR2QdRbyYjiD0Y&dib_tag=se&keywords=organizational+change+brenda+bond&qid=1725192885&s=books&sprefix=orgnaizational+change+brenda+bond%2Cstripbooks%2C89&sr=1-1

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