What if divorce didn’t have to be as complicated or expensive? Liz Pharo, the founder of Divorce.com, is on a mission to make the divorce process easier and less stressful. In this episode, Liz shares how she transitioned from the tech world to create Divorce.com, a platform designed to help people handle the paperwork, planning, and even mediation in a more streamlined way.

Liz and I talk about the different types of divorce, mediated vs. court-based, and why focusing on the kids and minimizing trauma is key. Plus, Liz shares how Divorce.com can save you time and money, the importance of working with coaches and therapists during the process, and why you need to be aware of sketchy divorce service providers.

Divorce is never simple, but with the right resources and mindset, it doesn’t have to be confusing or exhausting.

What you’ll hear:

• Liz’s journey from software engineer to Divorce.com founder (2:56)
• How Divorce.com simplifies the divorce process (7:57)
• The benefits of mediation and working with professionals (10:30)
• Why being informed about divorce options is crucial (26:12)

Learn more about Liz Pharo: Elizabeth "Liz" Pharo launched Divorce.com in 2022 with the vision of revolutionizing the way people divorce – offering a more compassionate and healthier path with less conflict and financial burden. Amid her own divorce, Liz founded Divorce.com to pave the way for individuals to access online divorce services at a fraction of the cost, as well as eliminate the taboo that still remains around divorce. The company's goal is to have couples planning to divorce first consider “Divorce.com-ing it.” Mediators then guide couples through the Divorce.com process to complete their divorce peacefully with mutual respect for both parties.

Beyond her work helping Divorce.com reduce the time, cost, and trauma of the typical divorce process, Liz is dedicated to the growth and development of her own community and serves on the boards of the Economic Development Partnership of Alabama, Venture for America, and Blight-Free Birmingham. Liz enjoys running and spending time with her family at Lake Martin.

Resources & Links:

Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective
Unbreakable – the Divorce Recovery Retreat, Sedona, AZ in April 2025
Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate

Divorce.com
Divorce.com on Instagram
Divorce.com on LinkedIn
Divorce.com on TikTok
Divorce.com on Facebook
Divorce.com on YouTube
Liz on LinkedIn
Liz on Instagram

Episode Link:
https://kateanthony.com/podcast/episode-314-streamlining-divorce-with-liz-pharo-founder-of-divorce-com/

Andrea Vacca returns to explore amicable divorce solutions, even in high-conflict cases. While avoiding litigation is often the goal, sometimes it's unavoidable. Andrea breaks down the benefits of staying out of court, how to keep children at the center, and when it’s time to shift from collaboration or mediation to litigation.

Together, we also explore the power of a team-based approach and the role of a divorce coach, specifically how a coach can save you time, money, and energy! With her expertise in collaborative divorce and positive psychology, Andrea offers a fresh, empowering take on navigating divorce without court.

You’ll also hear:

• The misconception that all high-conflict divorces must go to court, and what it really takes to stay out of litigation (5:08)
• Why mediation isn’t always the best fit for high-conflict couples and what alternative approaches may work better (8:53)
• The power of a team approach, including the role of a divorce coach in navigating conflict (11:20)
• Strategies for keeping children at the center of decisions (32:29)

Learn more about Andrea Vacca: Andrea Vacca is the founder of Vacca Family Law Group in Manhattan, a boutique law firm focused on non-adversarial divorce and family law matters including divorce, separation, and prenuptial and postnuptial agreements. With a background in traditional divorce litigation, Andrea now exclusively helps her clients find amicable divorce solutions outside of court. She is a widely recognized collaborative divorce attorney and mediator, former President of the New York Association of Collaborative Professionals, author of the book Divorce Without Court: A More Peaceful Solution, and creator and host of “A Better Divorce” podcast. In addition to her law degree, Andrea holds a Certificate in Positive Psychology and recently became a Certified Positive Psychology Coach. Andrea regularly applies Positive Psychology principles in her work to help her clients navigate divorce, including having a growth mindset, being resilient, and encouraging mindfulness, helping them emerge stronger and more empowered.

Resources & Links:

Unbreakable – the Divorce Recovery Retreat, Sedona, AZ in April 2025
Submit your questions here for possible inclusion in future Q&A podcast episodes
Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate
Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective

Andrea’s website, Vacca Family Law Group
Get a free digital copy of Andrea's book, Divorce Without Court: A More Peaceful Solution
Andrea on Facebook
Andrea on Instagram
Andrea on LinkedIn
Andrea on YouTube

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DISCLAIMER: THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL OR PSYCHOLOGICAL ADVICE. YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY, COACH, OR THERAPIST IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.

Episode link:
https://kateanthony.com/podcast/episode-313-divorce-without-court-is-it-really-possible-with-andrea-vacca

John Kim, aka The Angry Therapist, joins me to chat about his new book, Breakup on Purpose: A Catalyst for Growth. A bestselling author, well-known for his raw, no-nonsense approach to self-help, John keeps it real by practicing full authenticity and transparency.

In this episode, he challenges us to rethink breakups. No one really talks about the different kinds of breakups, but John breaks them down into eight distinct types and explains how understanding which one you're going through can be a total game-changer.

We dive into how this framework can help you process your experience, focus your healing, and even turn your breakup into an opportunity for growth.

You’ll also hear:

• Why understanding your specific breakup type can help you prioritize healing (4:55)
• John goes through all eight breakup types and explains the different responses they may create (6:07)
• How healing from divorce is different from other breakups (37:15)

Learn more about John Kim: John Kim, LMFT is a bestselling author with a new book out called: BREAK UP ON PURPOSE: A Catalyst for Growth. Kim blogs as The Angry Therapist, and practices complete authenticity and transparency with his many clients. He is also the bestselling author of: “It’s Not Me, It’s You;” “Single. On Purpose,” and “I Used to be a Miserable F*ck.”

Resources & Links:

Unbreakable – the Divorce Recovery Retreat, Sedona, AZ in April 2025

Submit your questions here for possible inclusion in future Q&A podcast episodes

Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate

Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective

John’s website

John on Instagram

John on Facebook

John on YouTube

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DISCLAIMER: THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL OR PSYCHOLOGICAL ADVICE. YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY, COACH, OR THERAPIST IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.

Episode Link:

https://kateanthony.com/podcast/episode-312-breakup-on-purpose-with-the-angry-therapist-john-kim-lmft/

Alyssa Dineen, founder of Style My Profile, joins me to talk about the ins and outs of online dating after divorce. If you’re feeling overwhelmed by the dating apps, unsure how to craft a compelling profile, or just wondering if you're ready to date, Alyssa’s expertise will help you navigate it all.

Together, we tackle the realities of modern dating, from building a profile that actually sparks conversations to avoiding burnout in the endless swipe cycle. Alyssa also shares her own post-divorce dating journey, including how she found love after leaving an abusive marriage. She also shares the key strategies she uses with her clients to help them date with intention.

You’ll also hear:

• The biggest mistakes people make with their dating profiles (5:24)
• How dating can help you re-discover who you are after divorce (7:23)
• The ‘date uniform’ strategy that makes getting ready effortless (37:46)
• The first date, avoiding dating burnout, and enjoying the process (26:37)

Learn more about Alyssa Dineen: With over 25 years of experience as a fashion editor, stylist, and art director, Alyssa established herself as a seasoned leader in the New York fashion world. In the past decade, Alyssa has also emerged as a pioneering figure in the online dating space. Her innovative approach combines her expertise in styling with her insights into dating, guiding clients on everything from personal presentation to effective communication with potential partners.

As an acclaimed dating expert, Alyssa has been featured in The New York Times, Today Show, Goop, and Oprah Daily. She is also the author of The Art of Online Dating published by Harper Collins in 2021, which offers valuable strategies for success in online dating. You can find more information about Alyssa and Style My Profile’s services at stylemyprofilenyc.com.

Resources & Links:

Unbreakable – the Divorce Recovery Retreat, Sedona, AZ in April 2025

Submit your questions here for possible inclusion in future Q&A podcast episodes

Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate

Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective

Style My Profile website

Alyssa is also offering 20% off her Mindful Dating 101 course and DIY Profile Kit to DSG listeners! Use code DSG20 at checkout.

Alyssa on Instagram

Style My Profile on Instagram

Alyssa’s Facebook Group for: Empowered Women Moving Forward in the Modern Dating World

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DISCLAIMER: THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL OR PSYCHOLOGICAL ADVICE. YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY, COACH, OR THERAPIST IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.

Episode Link:

https://kateanthony.com/podcast/episode-309-online-dating-after-divorce-with-alyssa-dineen/

Jennifer Lee, financial advisor and founder of Modern Wealth, returns to the show to break down the financial realities of grey divorce. Whether you're the stay-at-home parent wondering what you're entitled to or the moneyed spouse navigating how to divide assets fairly, Jennifer's insights will help you make informed decisions with a clear sense of direction.

Together, we unpack the unique financial challenges that come with untangling decades of shared assets—from businesses and retirement accounts to the realities of living on half the resources you once had. Jennifer shares her expert advice on how to avoid costly mistakes and take control of your financial future.

You’ll also hear:

• What makes grey divorce financially unique and how to prepare (3:58)
• The importance of a qualified domestic relations order (QDRO) and how it works (5:12)
• Key mistakes people make when dividing marital assets (7:47)
• How to approach long-term financial planning post-divorce (16:51)

Learn more about Jennifer Lee: Originally from Maryland, Jennifer brought her over 27 years (44 years if you count going into the office with her father as a child) of expertise in the financial services industry to Florida. Jennifer has found that a relationship with an advisor is most critical at the intersections in life where emotions collide with financial events. She enjoys facilitating her clients through challenges as they experience life’s upsets such as divorce, the loss of a spouse, or business to retirement transition. Whether you are experiencing divorce, a business client expanding or selling your operation, or a couple wanting to make sure they have provided for their family, Modern-Wealth may be a good fit. Jennifer provides a fresh perspective to the financial planning process by digging deep to understand what drives her clients. At Modern-Wealth, they build long-lasting relationships. As part of their process, they encourage clients to communicate their values to the most important people in their lives by writing a family love letter. This led her to write “Squeeze the Juice: Live With Purpose-Then Leave a Legacy.”

Resources & Links:

Unbreakable – the Divorce Recovery Retreat, Sedona, AZ in April 2025

Submit your questions here for possible inclusion in future Q&A podcast episodes

Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate

Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective

Jennifer’s website

Consultation with Jennifer

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DISCLAIMER: THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL OR PSYCHOLOGICAL ADVICE. YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY, COACH, OR THERAPIST IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.

Episode link:

https://kateanthony.com/podcast/episode-308-grey-divorce-and-your-money-with-jennifer-lee/

Samara Bay, author of Permission to Speak, is here to reframe how we think about our voices—and the power they carry. Her work is for anyone who’s ever been told to sound different, speak softer, or conform to fit in. In this conversation, we explore how the way we speak shapes not just how others perceive us but how we see ourselves.

Samara’s insights are grounded in her own journey, from Shakespeare festivals to coaching Hollywood actors to helping leaders and changemakers show up authentically. Her audiobook is as compelling as the conversation you’re about to hear—a true reflection of her mission to help us all own our voices unapologetically.

Samara’s book, Permission to Speak, is available everywhere books are sold. If you love this conversation, grab the audiobook for an even deeper experience.

You’ll also hear:

• How societal norms shape the way we speak—and how to challenge them (2:25)
• The connection between breath, voice, and emotions (23:47)
• Practical exercises for finding and owning your voice (28:37)
• Why physical movement and warm-ups matter for confidence (29:14)

Learn more about Samara Bay: Samara Bay coaches rising business leaders, political hopefuls, and public figures who need to speak in a voice they recognize as their own to truly make waves. She runs workshops and speaks at organizations around the world to support a new, diverse sound of power. In Hollywood, she helps movie stars integrate good acting with good accents, and has coached clients including Gal Gadot, Pierce Brosnan, Penélope Cruz, Ricky Martin, Terry Crews, Rachel McAdams, Ruth Negga, and Anjelica Huston. She has a BA from Princeton University and an MFA from Brown University. She lives in Los Angeles with her husband, son, and dog, Moxie.

Resources & Links:

Unbreakable – the Divorce Recovery Retreat, Sedona, AZ in April 2025

Submit your questions here for possible inclusion in future Q&A podcast episodes

Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate

Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective

Samara on Instagram

Samara’s Substack

Permission to Speak

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DISCLAIMER: THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL OR PSYCHOLOGICAL ADVICE. YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY, COACH, OR THERAPIST IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM

Episode Link:

https://kateanthony.com/podcast/episode-307-permission-to-speak-with-samara-bay/