• The Sleeping Barber - A Business and Marketing Podcast

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The Sleeping Barber - A Business and Marketing Podcast

By: Sleeping Barber
  • Summary

  • Welcome to the Sleeping Barber podcast with your hosts, Marc Binkley and Vassilis Douros. The sleeping barber is a classic computer programming problem that illustrates the challenges of effectively managing multiple systems processes. In business, we're faced with similar challenges. How do we align operations, IT and HR to execute a strategy and drive growth? How can accounting and legal help build and defend brands? How do marketing, sales and customer service teams effectively and efficiently acquire and serve customers? These challenging problems are exactly what this podcast is about.
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Episodes
  • SBP 090: The Barber's Brief - September 26, 2024
    Sep 26 2024

    Welcome to another episode of The Barber’s Brief! Join Marc and Vassilis as they dive into the latest marketing and business news, spotlight a standout case study in their Marketing Moment, and wrap up with the Ad of the Week.

    Enjoy the show!


    Follow our updates here: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/sleeping-barber/⁠⁠

    Get in touch with our hosts:

    Marc Binkley: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcbinkley/

    Vassilis Douros: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/vassilisdouros/⁠


    Timestamps

    0:00 - Introduction

    01:15 - Nike’s Market Strategy and Challenges

    05:31 - Amazon’s Return to Office Mandate

    09:52 - Swedish Advertising Insights

    13:45 - The Evolution of KPIs in Marketing

    25:38 - Ad of the week


    Links:

    Title: Did Nike Lose it’s Cool or it’s place? Prof. Koen Pauwels

    Source: Prof. Koen Pauwels

    Link: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/did-nike-lose-its-cool-place-prof-dr-koen-pauwels-0cmqe/?trackingId=8MbCHRTATd%2Bm4DNRnHllsA%3D%3D


    Amazon Says No To Remote Work - Mandates full 5-day return to office

    Source: Techcrunch

    Link: https://techcrunch.com/2024/09/16/amazon-mandates-full-five-day-return-to-office/

    Link#2: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/amazon-employees-blast-andy-jassy-113949840.html


    Title: Effective Communication 2024 report by Sveriges Annonsorer & NoA Consulting

    Source: Sveriges Annonsorer

    Link: https://www.sverigesannonsorer.se/kunskap/rapporter/effective-communication-2024


    Title: Is the KPI still a good indicator of performance? Johnny Corbet

    Source: Marketing Week

    Link: https://www.marketingweek.com/kpi-good-indicator-performance/


    The Marketing Moment:

    How KFC Integrated Creative Quality into Their Marketing Effectiveness Assessments

    Link: https://www.kantar.com/inspiration/advertising-media/how-kfc-integrated-creative-quality-into-their-marketing-effectiveness-assessments


    Ad of the Week

    MIRO - collaboration and project management software

    https://youtu.be/shy3tqvHb4g?si=QyNchqm5jw2e4GDo


    The Back Story - the production team used Miro to produce the commercial for Miro

    https://go2.miro.com/how-we-launched-a-national-ad-campaign-with-Miro.html

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    30 mins
  • SBP 089: Future Demand, Not Demand Generation. With James Hurman.
    Sep 19 2024

    Welcome to another episode of the Sleeping Barber Podcast!

    Join Marc and Vassilis as they dive into the world of marketing effectiveness with special guest James Hurman.

    James, the founder of Previously Unavailable and the Masters of Advertising Effectiveness program, shares his deep insights into the startup ecosystem, the importance of balancing customer acquisition costs (CAC) with brand awareness, and the concept of future demand. This episode is packed with valuable knowledge on how to build sustainable marketing strategies that drive long-term success.

    Enjoy the show!


    Our Guest:

    James Hurman - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jameshurman/

    • Founder Previously Unavailable - Innovation Studio
    • Founder & Programme Director of the Masters of Advertising Effectiveness course with WARC
    • Co-founder of Tracksuit - a SaaS brand health tracking system
    • Co-author with Peter Field on the Cannes Lions / WARC publication called Creative Effectiveness Ladder
    • Author of a new book for startups called Future Demand and The Case for Creativity

    Follow our updates here: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/sleeping-barber/⁠⁠

    Get in touch with our hosts:

    Marc Binkley: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcbinkley/

    Vassilis Douros: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/vassilisdouros/⁠


    Timestamps:

    0:00 - Episode Introduction

    3:28 –the trouble with CAC & the startup playbook

    6:39 – why future demand (brand building) is important for startups

    10:15 – is demand generation possible

    15:04 – Why CAC gets worse without brand awareness

    17:30 – Split budgets between brand and performance marketing

    19:00 – James’ journey into effectiveness

    24:14 – What is effectiveness?

    26:35 – The Creative Effectiveness ladder

    32:35 – Do ads wear out or wear in?

    37:10 – The customer need behind Tracksuit’s brand health tracking SaaS

    41:10 – Lessons for early-stage startups

    44:53 – The power of industry expertise inside a startup

    47:58 – Building Effectiveness knowledge inside companies

    51:15 – Much of what marketers are taught is wrong

    53:30 – Marketing evidence needs to wear in

    54:15 – how to learn more about James

    55:09 - Post Pod with V and Marc


    Background Research & Literature:

    James on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/jameshurman/

    Tracksuit https://www.gotracksuit.com/us

    Previously Unavailable https://www.previously.co/

    Creative Effectiveness Ladder https://www.lionscreativity.com/creative-effectiveness-ladder

    The Principle of Future Demand https://www.previously.co/projects/the-principle-of-future-demand


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    1 hr and 13 mins
  • SBP 088: The Barber's Brief - September 12, 2024
    Sep 12 2024

    Welcome to another episode of The Barber’s Brief! Join Marc and Vassilis as they dive into the latest marketing and business news, spotlight a standout case study in their Marketing Moment, and wrap up with the Ad of the Week.


    Enjoy the show!


    Follow our updates here: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/sleeping-barber/⁠⁠


    Get in touch with our hosts:

    Marc Binkley: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcbinkley/

    Vassilis Douros: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/vassilisdouros/⁠


    Timestamps

    0:00 - Introduction

    1:56 - Efficiency Delusion

    4:54 - iOS 18 What Does It Mean For Marketers

    12:30 - Brand Has Never Been More Important For B2B

    17:14 - Google Lose Appeal in EU

    19:56 - The Marketing Moment - Dr. Pepper


    Links:

    Story #1

    Title: The Efficiency Delusion

    Source: Paul Worthington blog OffKilter

    Link: https://www.invencion.com/off-kilter


    Story #2a

    Title: iOS 18: What do the new AI features mean for Email Marketing?

    Source: DeployTeq

    Link: https://deployteq.com/ios-18-what-do-the-new-ai-features-mean-for-email-marketing/


    Story #2b

    Title: iOS 18: Apple Visual Intelligence – search using your iPhone camera

    Source: Search Engine Land

    Link: https://searchengineland.com/apple-visual-intelligence-search-using-your-iphone-camera-446419


    Story #3

    Title: Brand Has ‘Never Been More Important in B2B Marketing’, research reveals

    Source: Marketing Week

    Link: https://www.marketingweek.com/brand-more-important-b2b/


    Story #4

    Title: Nike: Google loses appeal against EU’s $2.7B Shopping antitrust case, as bloc also wins $15B Apple state aid appeal

    Source: Masimo Guanaco on LinkedIn

    Link: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/nike-epic-saga-value-destruction-massimo-giunco-llplf


    Marketing Moment: Dr. Pepper Just Took over Pepsi: Could Coca-Cola be Next?

    Source: Andrew Tindall in The Drum

    Link: https://www.thedrum.com/opinion/2024/09/02/dr-pepper-just-overtook-pepsi-could-coca-cola-be-next


    The Background: Coke, Pepsi, and Dr. Pepper once dominated the U.S. soda market, but by the end of 2023, Pepsi and Dr. Pepper were tied with an 8.3% market share. Dr. Pepper's success is due to both its own strategy and Pepsi's failures.


    Case #1 - Branding & Rebranding: While Coca-Cola maintained a consistent brand identity, Pepsi underwent multiple major redesigns. Dr. Pepper, launched in 1885, kept its unique positioning, benefiting from a distinct brand and flavor profile. The brand leveraged its unique classification as a "Pepper Soda" to expand its distribution network.


    The Cola Wars: Pepsi focused on taste tests and high-profile campaigns, including controversial ads, while the overall market saw a shift towards bottled water and diverse flavors. Pepsi emphasized zero sugar and snacks.


    Dr. Pepper’s Strategy: Unlike its competitors, Dr. Pepper avoided the "Cola Wars" and focused on its distinctiveness, committing to an eSOV (excess share of voice) strategy and consistently improving ad quality. As Gen Z becomes the key demographic, Dr. Pepper continues to focus on its 139-year-old positioning as a unique blend of 23 flavors while adapting its creative approach to resonate with younger consumers.



    We Play Different - The North Face

    Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7qHeUak1RU&list=TLGGQEylHYKkXDwxMDA5MjAyNA&t=18s


    Agency: B-Reel


    The North Face aimed to reconnect with its core audience across fashion and outdoor sports while appealing to a younger demographic unfamiliar with its heritage.


    Campaign narrative and execution

    The campaign, "We Always Have Your Back," utilizes storytelling and visual spectacle to bridge The North Face's legacy in extreme outdoor exploration with its contemporary status as a streetwear icon. Narrated by Alex Honnold, the campaign emphasizes unity and support in adventure.

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    35 mins

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