• When We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything But

  • By: Jessie Sage
  • Podcast

When We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything But

By: Jessie Sage
  • Summary

  • When We’re Not Hustling is a twice monthly podcast that explores the lives and identities of sex workers outside our personas. Each episode features a long-form interview with a sex worker, where we talk about everything but work: personal philosophies, ambitions, family, relationships, passions, hobbies, mental and physical health, identity, spirituality, meaning-making, and more. On this show, we learn who sex workers are outside of the work they are known for. When We’re Not Hustling is an exploration of the people behind the fantasies.
    2024
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Episodes
  • S2 E18 AP: I'm a Proud Bed-Rotter, and I Think Everyone Should Try It
    Nov 6 2024

    In this episode of When We're Not Hustling: The Afterparty, hosts Jesse Sage, Emily Foster, and guest host Emery Fields discuss the concept of "bedrotting," inspired by a recent episode featuring Lana Hart—a New York City-based stripper, writer, sex worker, and stand-up comic. In her article for the Tryst Blog titled "Hobby Whores," Lana describes "bedrotting" as the intentional act of lying in bed to relax and recharge. The hosts emphasize the importance of viewing downtime as an active and valuable part of self-care, especially in a hustle-driven economy where constant productivity is often the norm. They highlight how scheduling time for rest is essential for mental health, creativity, and maintaining balance.

    The discussion also delves into the challenges of separating personal life from work as artists and freelancers, where even moments of relaxation can feel tied to productivity. Each host shares their experiences with balancing work and downtime, striving to embrace rest without constantly measuring it against their professional output. They conclude by celebrating the joy of transforming everyday experiences into art and meaningful discussions while acknowledging the necessity of rest to sustain their passion and effectiveness.

    In This Episode:

    00:12: Introducing guest host Emery Fields

    01:02: Discussing live event and upcoming episodes

    02:02: Explanation of bedrotting and its origins

    03:20: Bedrotting as a restorative process

    05:04: Bedrotting compared to couch relaxation

    06:47: Watching TV as part of bedrotting

    09:02: TV shows and off-grid living discussion

    10:49: Balancing work and life with active bedrotting

    17:37: Scheduling downtime for mental health benefits

    People:

    Guest: Lana Hart

    Hosts: Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, Emery Fields

    Producer: Emily Foster

    Music: Benjamin J Benamati

    You can support the show at pateron.com/sapiotextual

    When We're Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund.

    You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.

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    36 mins
  • S2 E18: I'm a Proud Bed-Rotter, and I Think Everyone Should Try It with Lana Hart
    Nov 4 2024

    In this special crossover episode with Tryst blog's "Hobby Whores" column, host Jessie Sage sits down with Lana Hart, a sex worker, comedian, and writer, to explore the concept of "bed rotting." Described as the act of lying in bed to recharge and care for oneself, bed rotting is framed as an essential form of self-care—especially for those in demanding professions like sex work.

    Together, Lana and Jessie discuss the mental and emotional demands of sex work, from the pressure of constant social engagement to the need for meaningful downtime. They challenge societal expectations around productivity, emphasizing that rest is a valuable activity rather than a guilty indulgence. The conversation also covers the balance between personal relationships and the intensity of their work, underscoring the importance of dedicating time to oneself. By embracing restorative activities like watching favorite shows or pursuing hobbies, the episode highlights the therapeutic benefits of rest and self-care.

    Lana Hart's Article:

    Hobby Whores: Bedrotting with Lana Hart

    In This Episode:

    00:01: Introduction to When We're Not Hustling

    01:24: Overview of Podcast and Mission

    02:44: Crossover Episode with Tryst Blog

    03:58: Raffle Announcement and Future Episodes

    05:16: Introduction of Guest Lana Hart

    06:27: Lana Hart Discusses Bed Rotting

    09:18: The Importance of Rest in Sex Work

    17:30: Challenges of Maintaining Social Energy

    20:08: Regular Clients and Relationship Dynamics

    21:32: Bed Rotting as Self-Care Practice

    Guest:

    Lana Hart is a comedian, sex worker, and writer; a woman who wears many hats and sometimes wears nothing at all.

    Lana moved to New York City in 2014 after graduating from Emerson College to pursue a career in stand up comedy and comedy writing. While doing nightly comedy shows, occasional tours, and various freelance gigs, she picked up multiple side hustles to support herself. In 2018, she finally found one that stuck when she began stripping. Lana’s experience with sex work made its way into her comedy writing, as she found a passion for presenting audiences with the radical idea that sex workers are people who deserve respect. She dedicated her punchlines to lifting up sex workers and punching down on narrow-minded people who discriminate against them. She also wrote multiple articles for Betches Media advocating for sex workers’ rights and the decriminalization of sex work. Her written work has also been featured on Reductress, Someecards, Paste Magazine, and Tryst.

    Lana’s stand-up comedy, published articles, and social media content aim to rid people of their whorephobia and inspire them to cherish whores as much as she does. She wants you to laugh but she also wants you to shut up and listen.

    You can find Lana:

    X: @lanadelslayee

    Instagram: @lanadelslayee_

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    The Rest:

    Host: Jessie Sage

    Producer: Emily Foster

    Music: Benjamin J Benamati

    Sponsor: Assembly Four

    Powered by Black Venom Digital

    When We're Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund.

    You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.

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    41 mins
  • S2 E17 AP: I'm Happier, Wealthier, and More Satisfied Single
    Oct 30 2024

    In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling: The After-Party," the hosts explore the themes of singlehood, societal expectations, and the importance of friendships through the lens of Gem DeMilo's story. Gem, who has chosen to remain intentionally single after past relationships, sheds light on the societal pressure to prioritize romantic relationships and how she values friendships instead. The discussion also delves into how societal norms often restrict men from forming intimate friendships and how this contributes to a loneliness epidemic. Moreover, the conversation highlights how being single can be an empowering choice rather than an indication of loneliness, as it allows individuals to focus on self-growth.

    The hosts share personal anecdotes about navigating relationship dynamics and challenge the traditional view of relationships being solely romantic or monogamous. They emphasize that friendships and professional relationships, including those in sex work, can also provide fulfillment when the transactional nature is understood and respected. The episode concludes with an affirmation of the value of diverse relationships and the importance of expressing love and appreciation for friends.

    In This Episode:

    00:34: Hosts Introduce Themselves

    00:51: Gem DeMilo's Choice to Be Intentionally Single

    01:43: Societal Expectations of Relationships

    03:06: Cultural Views on Monogamy and Intimacy

    05:23: Masculine Socialization and Emotional Isolation

    07:21: Financial Independence in Single Life

    09:14: Redefining Relationship Dynamics

    14:42: Singleness as Self-Actualization

    33:33: Closing Thoughts on Relationships

    People:

    Guest: Gem DeMilo

    Hosts: Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, Melissa Milk

    Producer: Emily Foster

    Music: Benjamin J Benamati

    You can support the show at pateron.com/sapiotextual

    When We're Not Hustling is a 501(c)(3) non-profit project of the Social Good Fund.

    You can support our show with your tax-deductive donation HERE.

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    34 mins

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