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we are NOT the SAME

we are NOT the SAME

By: Heather Gardner and Lacey Joseph
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We Are Not the Same: Join our comedic journey as Bodybuilder Barbie flexes her muscles against Daria’s dry wit! Dive into the hilarity of life’s twists and turns through the eyes of two contrasting besties who prove that different perspectives lead to the best stories. Tune in for laughs, randomness, and a sprinkle of chaos!





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Episodes
  • Unpacking Our Past: From Massive Poufs to Parental Drama
    Jul 28 2025

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    Ever wondered what happens when two friends record their lives during a complete emotional spiral? That's exactly what we did in season one of this podcast, and now we're looking back at those wild times with a mixture of horror and amusement.

    In this deeply candid catch-up episode, we take you through the evolution of our friendship and personal journeys, from questionable fashion choices (like that four-inch hair poof that required half a bottle of hairspray) to the dramatic relationship revelations that continue to shape our lives. One shocking story involves discovering a secret child that had been hidden for five years during a 9.5-year relationship, alongside other disturbing behaviors that came to light all in one overwhelming day.

    We don't hold back as we discuss the challenges of co-parenting with difficult exes, managing strong-willed children, and trying to provide stability despite complicated custody arrangements. There's something uniquely therapeutic about being able to laugh at our past selves while acknowledging how much growth has happened since those early recording days. We share our struggles with finding structure and routine—especially for those of us with ADHD tendencies—and our dating patterns that we're actively working to improve ("unattractive, unmotivated, usually addicted to something" being the type we're trying to avoid).

    Between planning fitness competitions, family trips, and celebrating important milestones, we're navigating life's complexities with honesty and humor. This episode perfectly captures why listeners connect with our unfiltered conversations—we're all works in progress, making mistakes, learning from them, and occasionally recording the whole messy journey for everyone's enjoyment. Join us for this raw, heartfelt discussion that proves sometimes the best stories come from our most chaotic chapters.

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    48 mins
  • Trauma in the Tissues: How Massage Therapy Unlocks Physical and Emotional Healing
    Jul 21 2025

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    Have you ever wondered why that nagging pain in your shoulder won't go away despite massages, stretching, and even medication? The answer might surprise you—your body could be physically manifesting emotional trauma you haven't processed.

    In this raw and enlightening conversation with massage therapist Jenessa from Intuitive Touch, we dive deep into the concept that "your body keeps score" of emotional experiences, storing them in physical form when they aren't processed mentally. Jenessa reveals how she reads subtle body signals during massage sessions to identify where clients are holding onto emotional baggage—whether it's tension in the shoulders, inflammation throughout the body, or that mysterious hip pain that appeared after a difficult life event.

    What makes this discussion particularly fascinating is the contrast between different body types and how they respond to massage therapy. As Jenessa explains, working on an athlete's dense, trained muscles is "like trying to make a river rock squishy," requiring completely different techniques than someone whose body primarily carries emotional tension. This personalized approach is why cookie-cutter massage experiences often fail to provide lasting relief.

    The conversation takes unexpected turns as we share personal experiences with alternative healing modalities like ketamine therapy and how they've complemented traditional massage treatments. One particularly powerful revelation comes when we discuss how the body physically responds to emotional anniversaries—with measurable changes in recovery metrics, inflammation, and pain patterns that correspond to significant dates, regardless of conscious awareness.

    Whether you're dealing with chronic pain, curious about the mind-body connection, or simply looking to understand why your body sometimes seems to have a mind of its own, this episode offers valuable insights into holistic healing approaches that honor both physical and emotional aspects of wellness. Learn how massage therapy can serve as both physical medicine and emotional release when performed with intuition and understanding of the body's complex language.

    Ready to discover what your body might be trying to tell you? Listen now, and take the first step toward truly understanding the connection between your physical sensations and emotional experiences.

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    50 mins
  • The Universe Keeps Testing Us: Dating Disasters and Dessert Therapy
    Jul 14 2025

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    Dessert has never tasted so sweet as when you're finally free from competition prep restrictions. In this celebratory episode, Heather and Lacey indulge in a variety of treats while catching up on life, love, and the pursuit of the perfect lemon cake bite.

    Fresh off her successful bodybuilding competition, Heather savors her first real meal in months – a teriyaki burger from Hop Jacks (which Lacey stubbornly refuses to call by its new name, "Hops and Drops"). The duo shares laughs over restaurant servers who still remember them from their weekly happy hour sessions years ago.

    Between bites of lemon layer cake, strawberry cheesecake, and vanilla pudding cake, they dive into stories about dating disappointments. Lacey coins the term "oppositional defiant disorder with the universe" to describe their shared tendency to ignore obvious red flags in relationships. The mysterious "motorcycle" who has ghosted Lacey three times but keeps reappearing becomes a metaphor for the lessons we refuse to learn.

    The conversation weaves through Heather's competition feedback (coming in "slightly leaner" next time), injury-prone pasts (featuring Lacey’s five ankle sprains in six months), and mutual confusion over internet trends like ASMR and mukbang videos. Through it all, the underlying theme remains their enduring friendship – from sharing matching dresses in their "size zero days" to supporting each other through life's challenges.

    As they plan for upcoming concerts and Heather's next competition in Florida, it's clear that these moments of connection over dessert represent something much sweeter than cake – the freedom to enjoy life's pleasures and the comfort of a friendship that has weathered years of change.

    Take a moment to enjoy something sweet today, and remember that sometimes the best therapy comes with frosting. Subscribe for more conversations that feel like catching up with your best friends!

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    49 mins
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