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Desiring the Kingdom
- Worship, Worldview, and Cultural Formation
- Narrated by: John Pruden
- Length: 8 hrs and 47 mins
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Publisher's summary
Malls, stadiums, and universities are actually liturgical structures that influence and shape our thoughts and affections. Humans - as Augustine noted - are "desiring agents", full of longings and passions; in brief, we are what we love.
James K. A. Smith focuses on the themes of liturgy and desire in Desiring the Kingdom, the first book in a three-volume set on the theology of culture. He redirects our yearnings to focus on the greatest good: God. Ultimately, Smith seeks to re-envision education through the process and practice of worship. Students of philosophy, theology, worldview, and culture will welcome Desiring the Kingdom, as will those involved in ministry.
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- Narrated by: Robertson Dean
- Length: 9 hrs and 46 mins
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Dallas Willard, one of today's most brilliant Christian thinkers and the author of The Divine Conspiracy ( Christianity Today's 1999 Book of the Year), presents a way of living that enables ordinary men and women to enjoy the fruit of the Christian life.
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Drivel
- By Amazon Customer on 07-09-18
By: Dallas Willard
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We Become What We Worship
- A Biblical Theology of Idolatry
- By: G. K. Beale
- Narrated by: Kent Klineman
- Length: 14 hrs and 40 mins
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The heart of the biblical understanding of idolatry, argues Gregory Beale, is that we take on the characteristics of what we worship. Employing Isaiah 6 as his interpretive lens, Beale demonstrates that this understanding of idolatry permeates the whole canon, from Genesis to Revelation. Beale concludes with an application of the biblical notion of idolatry to the challenges of contemporary life.
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One of the best books
- By April Jean on 11-01-22
By: G. K. Beale
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Reading the Bible Supernaturally
- Seeing and Savoring the Glory of God in Scripture
- By: John Piper
- Narrated by: Jim Denison
- Length: 13 hrs and 42 mins
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The Bible reveals glorious things. And yet we often miss its power because we read it the same way we read any other book. In Reading the Bible Supernaturally, best-selling author John Piper teaches us how to read the Bible in light of its divine author. In doing so, he highlights the Bible's unique ability to reveal God to humanity in a way that informs our minds, transforms our hearts, and ignites our love.
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Book was great, narrator was mediocre
- By JRThompson95 on 11-02-17
By: John Piper
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Renovation of the Heart
- Putting on the Character of Christ
- By: Dallas Willard
- Narrated by: Dallas Willard
- Length: 13 hrs and 7 mins
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In Renovation of the Heart, best-selling author Dallas Willard calls it "the transformation of the spirit"- a divine process that "brings every element in our being, working from inside out, into harmony with the will of God or the kingdom of God." In the transformation of our spirits, we become apprentices of Jesus Christ.
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Reflection on what it means to truly change
- By Adam Shields on 06-10-14
By: Dallas Willard
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Crisis of Confidence
- Reclaiming the Historic Faith in a Culture Consumed with Individualism and Identity
- By: Carl R. Trueman
- Narrated by: R. E. Biddulph
- Length: 8 hrs and 8 mins
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Historic statements of faith—such as the Heidelberg Catechism, the Apostles’ Creed, and the Westminster Confession of Faith—have helped the Christian church articulate and adhere to God’s truth for centuries. However, many modern evangelicals reject these historic documents and the practices of catechesis, proclaiming their commitment to “no creed but the Bible.” And yet, in today’s rapidly changing culture, ancient liturgical tradition is not only biblical—it’s essential.
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Very relevant to this time in the modern church life.
- By Randy McLemore on 05-16-24
By: Carl R. Trueman
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Finding the Right Hills to Die On
- The Case for Theological Triage
- By: Gavin Ortlund, D. A. Carson - foreword
- Narrated by: Tom Parks
- Length: 4 hrs and 12 mins
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In theology, just as in battle, some hills are worth dying on. But how do we know which ones? When should doctrine divide, and when should unity prevail? Pastor Gavin Ortlund makes the case that while all doctrines matter, some are more essential than others. He considers how and what to prioritize in doctrine and ministry, encouraging humility and grace along the way. Using four basic categories of doctrine in order of importance, this book helps new and seasoned church leaders alike wisely labor both to uphold doctrine and to preserve unity.
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Categories in the intro are helpful
- By PickyPeople on 08-20-20
By: Gavin Ortlund, and others
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Invitation to Retreat
- The Gift and Necessity of Time Away with God
- By: Ruth Haley Barton
- Narrated by: Ruth Haley Barton
- Length: 4 hrs and 10 mins
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In this audiobook, Transforming Center founder and seasoned spiritual director Ruth Haley Barton gently and eloquently leads us into an exploration of retreat as a key practice that opens us to God. Based on her own practice and her experience leading hundreds of retreats for others, she will guide you in a very personal exploration of seven specific invitations contained within the general invitation to retreat. You will discover how to say "Yes" to God's winsome invitation to greater freedom and surrender.
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Deep, rich work
- By ALIKAT on 03-26-24
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Doctrine
- What Christians Should Believe
- By: Mark Driscoll, Gerry Breshears
- Narrated by: Sean Runnette
- Length: 15 hrs and 40 mins
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Doctrine is the word Christians use to define the truth-claims revealed in Holy Scripture. Of course, there is a multitude of churches, church networks, and denominations, each with their own doctrinal statement with many points of disagreement. But while Christians disagree on a number of doctrines, there are key elements that cannot be denied by anyone claiming to be a follower of Jesus.
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Amazing
- By Josue on 08-01-19
By: Mark Driscoll, and others
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Orthodoxy
- By: G. K. Chesterton
- Narrated by: John Lee
- Length: 6 hrs and 40 mins
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Written by G. K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy addresses foremost one main problem: How can we contrive to be at once astonished at the world and yet at home in it? Chesterton writes, "I wish to set forth my faith as particularly answering this double spiritual need, the need for that mixture of the familiar and the unfamiliar which Christendom has rightly named romance."
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A True Gem
- By Sam French on 05-05-15
By: G. K. Chesterton
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Morality
- Restoring the Common Good in Divided Times
- By: Jonathan Sacks
- Narrated by: Jonathan Sacks
- Length: 14 hrs and 4 mins
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With liberal democracy embattled, public discourse grown toxic, family life breaking down, and drug abuse and depression on the rise, many fear what the future holds. In Morality, respected faith leader and public intellectual Jonathan Sacks traces today's crisis to our loss of a strong, shared moral code and our elevation of self-interest over the common good.
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The world needs to read this!
- By Isaac W on 02-11-21
By: Jonathan Sacks
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- Dr. David Odegard
- 06-20-19
F ormational
I like about 89% of what Smith writes. Whenever he strays into epistemology, he quickly swims into postmodernism, but he avoids those treacherous waters in this delightful book. He explores what the Telos of learning and formation should be for fully developed Christians and he nails it.
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- Amazon Customer
- 09-28-24
Fantastic stuff...harder to digest.
Honestly, this book and the concepts in it are worth the read. For whatever reason though, I felt as if it was hard to make some of the thoughts tangible, and even a little harder to get through all of it.
That being said, if you are looking for a book that involves a discussion on the Kingdom of God, this should probably be one you read.
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- Kevin
- 08-06-18
A paradigm-shifting view of Christian education
Smith does a masterful job of demonstrating that people more often act out of their loves and desires than out of their beliefs and knowledge. The key to transformation in the Christian life is not merely more information or an accurate worldview but rightly formed desires. For a lighter take on the same material, listen to Smith's You Are What You Love: The Spiritual Power of Habit.
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- Adam Shields
- 02-13-18
Wish it was Smith reading this. But still good.
I am quite late to actually reading Desiring the Kingdom. It was first published 9 years ago. I purchased it 4 years ago, but I didn’t actually read Desiring the Kingdom until this week when I realized that there was a new audiobook out.
The basic ideas in Desiring the Kingdom are not new to me. I have read six of Smith’s other books including You Are What You Love twice. (You Are What You Love is intended to be a more popular level introduction to similar ideas.) Several of the illustrations, going to the mall and ball park as an alien anthropologist trying to understand what it is that we as humans are doing is familiar from other books and talks I have heard. But it is worth reading this full book as both a reminder of the ideas and a more full expression.
Desiring the Kingdom is attempting to refocus our Christian discipleship away from information sharing toward worship in a broad sense. We are not simply ‘Brains on a stick’ but we are ‘thinking things’. It is not that information and thinking are unimportant, they are very important. But we are not changed simply by being introduced to information. We are changed through the power of worship and by refocusing on what we love.
Part of what is difficult for me is that I am a part of a megachurch, which I love, but which does not really take the ideas of Smith’s understanding of worship into account. My church wants to be a church that unchurched people like attending. And I love that. Our church is full of people that hated church as children, teens, or adults and because they hated church they never understood the gospel (or in some cases the actual gospel wasn’t presented.)
But I also think my church misses the some of the spiritual power available to them because of the way worship is structured. We sing, and we sing good music, but it tends to be a bit loud and bit too focused on the band and not focused enough on the participation. But as a society we don’t sing together often and many visitors don’t know the songs, so I understand. We take up an offering that almost no one actually puts anything in. Because most people that give, give online automatically and we say that we only want people that claim this as their church home to give. We have a message that takes seriously the gospel as a means to transform our lives and seeks to take seriously the scripture, but we don’t read the bible corporately except as an illustration.
We do center our worship around baptism. And most services do have a baptism as the central and focal point of the service. But we do not ever have communion (eucharist) as part of our Sunday worship. That is a theological decision that biases concern about taking communion unworthily over the power of the eucharist to draw us both to Christ and to the body of believers around us.
We also do not ever have general confession and absolution. This is true of most non-denominational and baptist churches. I have never been a part of a church that did general confession and absolution. But I think this is theologically wrong. We as a group of believers can do few things that I think are more evangelistically oriented than publicly repent and be forgiven.
Desiring the Kingdom is not mostly about the local church, it is more about discipleship and education. But an understanding of what happens in the liturgy, ideally, matters to how Smith conceives of discipleship and education. My church and most Protestant churches are mostly oriented around the sermon and therefore oriented around information sharing. The catholic/orthodox focus on the eucharist as the center point of worship helps to draw our awareness to the fact that it is not the information that saves us, but the Christ. It is not that we don’t need to know about Christ and theology and scripture and our ethical requirements for living, but those things are dependent upon our relationship to, and our dependence upon, Christ.
What Smith is doing in Desiring the Kingdom is pointing out that our practices matter to how we think. It is not the other way around. We do not mostly change practice because we have new information. If we did then no doctor would smoke and no banker would declare bankruptcy. It is the practices that allow us to shape the processing of the information.
I think that most people outside the church expect the church to be at least a little weird. When you do polling about what type of buildings non-Christians prefer, they tend to choose explicitly religious architecture. When people actually are willing to come to a worship service, I think they expect it to be a bit weird. So we should explain our weirdness, but we should actually have some weirdness that has real spiritual meaning. Every service should have confession and absolution and eucharist as central. The message is still there and important, but it is rooted in the spiritual power of the two previous corporate activities of the people and not the skill of the preacher.
Communal practices are difficult in a pluralistic world. Many Christians have begun thinking again about withdrawal from culture for the purposes of discipleship (think Dreher’s Benedict Option.) Smith thinks we need to make clear choices that makes us different from the world around us, but not choices that remove us from culture. College students that may focus their learning of social theory by being required to serve their community. Or very locally focused church that intentionally does not remove their students from a local low income, poor performing school, but intentionally makes that local school part of their lives so that the people there are known as individuals.
Christianity is not about what we get or about what is normal, but is about Christ being King, and Christ’s kingdom. That means we will always be somewhat at odds with culture and the political world around us. But the orientation of Christ in his incarnation is willingly sacrificing his own comfort and earned place to be with us.
One last note, I think that while Smith is not explicitly talking about the splits between racial groups within Christianity (or outside of Christianity) the reality of those divides not being solved by simple information or simple law changes is a strong support to Smith’s basic thesis that communal and individual practice and relationship matters more than information.
As I said above, I listened to this on audiobook. The narration was fine, but I really do think that publishers would do better if they allowed their authors to read. No one knows a book better than the author. The author is unlikely to mispronounce words or names (and there was at least one here). Jamie Smith said on twitter that he would have read if he had been allowed to. And this would have been a better audiobook if he had been allowed to read it himself.
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- David Calfee
- 01-29-19
awareness of how culture shapes people
great food for thought on how culture shapes us even without our conscious awareness of it.
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- G Man
- 04-13-23
Terrible
Could be thought provoking, but is poorly written and edited, and is mostly just WRONG or out of touch with its presentation of "facts". Also, this is the only Christian book that I've read that doesn't cite scripture.
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- Patrick Keele
- 04-03-23
Simply Unhelpful
This book has been the least helpful and least interesting read I have undertaken in my walk as a christian and seminarian. The author does a great job of leading the reader to see how desire is shaped by worldviews competing alongside the Christian worldview. Little direction is given toward providing a realistic, sizable difference in the problems which the author asserts. Critical and alarmist in nature with double standards of how worldviews were treated. The reader of the audiobook did a fine job.
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- Benjamin D. O'Toole
- 07-10-23
Smith’s False Dichotomy Sank His Good Ideas
The precognitive formation of a Christin social imaginary is well presented. The problem is that Smith makes a false dichotomy between the mind/learning and the habits/rituals which for it.
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- Donald
- 03-24-18
Some good premises, but poor conclusions.
Smith seems to see modern America's expression of capitalism to be so at odds with a proper understanding of the Biblical Kingdom that Christians must radically divorce themselves from it. I don't necessarily disagree, but because he doesn't go deep enough in his treatment of the subject, it is unclear whether he believes capitalism on the whole is antithetical to Gospel living (if so, that is where we part ways), or only the specific excesses of modern society in the West. Further, many of the problems in Christian education, worship and practice that Smith identifies are real enough, but his solutions (sparse as they are) seem untenable. I'm not sure if I'll continue the series, but there's enough baby in the bathwater here that I don't regret reading this book. Certainly, his basic argument that humans are primarily desiring or worshipping beings that are every day formed by the patterns of cultural liturgies, and so must undergo counterformation by means of Biblical, Kingdom desiring liturgy, is worth thinking about long and hard. Where that leads me, it seems, is pretty far off from where it has taken Smith.
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