Forget the Alamo
The Rise and Fall of an American Myth
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A New York Times best seller!
"Lively and absorbing...." (The New York Times Book Review)
"Engrossing." (Wall Street Journal)
"Entertaining and well-researched...." (Houston Chronicle)
Three noted Texan writers combine forces to tell the real story of the Alamo, dispelling the myths, exploring why they had their day for so long, and explaining why the ugly fight about its meaning is now coming to a head.
Every nation needs its creation myth, and since Texas was a nation before it was a state, it's no surprise that its myths bite deep. There's no piece of history more important to Texans than the Battle of the Alamo, when Davy Crockett and a band of rebels went down in a blaze of glory fighting for independence from Mexico, losing the battle but setting Texas up to win the war. However, that version of events, as Forget the Alamo definitively shows, owes more to fantasy than reality. Just as the site of the Alamo was left in ruins for decades, its story was forgotten and twisted over time, with the contributions of Tejanos - Texans of Mexican origin, who fought alongside the Anglo rebels - scrubbed from the record, and the origin of the conflict over Mexico's push to abolish slavery papered over. Forget the Alamo provocatively explains the true story of the battle against the backdrop of Texas's struggle for independence, then shows how the sausage of myth got made in the Jim Crow South of the late nineteenth and early twentieth century. As uncomfortable as it may be to hear for some, celebrating the Alamo has long had an echo of celebrating whiteness.
In the past 40-some years, waves of revisionists have come at this topic, and at times have made real progress toward a more nuanced and inclusive story that doesn't alienate anyone. But we are not living in one of those times; the fight over the Alamo's meaning has become more pitched than ever in the past few years, even violent, as Texas's future begins to look more and more different from its past. It's the perfect time for a wise and generous-spirited book that shines the bright light of the truth into a place that's gotten awfully dark.
©2021 Bryan Burrough, Chris Tomlinson, Jason Stanford (P)2021 Penguin AudioListeners also enjoyed...
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“Lively and absorbing.... Much of the fun of the book derives from how deftly it strips that varnish off and demolishes the prevailing (White) racist shibboleths - in particular, what the authors call the Heroic Anglo Narrative of Texas history.” (New York Times Book Review)
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- By: Scott W. Berg
- Narrated by: Paul Heitsch
- Length: 12 hrs and 34 mins
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In August 1862, after decades of broken treaties, increasing hardship, and relentless encroachment on their lands, a group of Dakota warriors convened a council at the tepee of their leader, Little Crow. Knowing the strength and resilience of the young American nation, Little Crow counseled caution, but anger won the day. Forced to either lead his warriors in a war he knew they could not win or leave them to their fates, he declared, "[Little Crow] is not a coward: he will die with you."
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Powerful condemnation of Manifest Destiny
- By Buretto on 09-26-19
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Murder at the Mission
- A Frontier Killing, Its Legacy of Lies, and the Taking of the American West
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In 1836, two missionaries and their wives were among the first Americans to cross the Rockies by covered wagon on what would become the Oregon Trail. Dr. Marcus Whitman and Reverend Henry Spalding were headed to present-day Washington state and Idaho, where they aimed to convert members of the Cayuse and Nez Perce tribes. Both would fail spectacularly as missionaries.
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Good history; wanted more indigenous perspective.
- By Anonymous User on 07-06-21
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The President and the Freedom Fighter
- Abraham Lincoln, Frederick Douglass, and Their Battle to Save America's Soul
- By: Brian Kilmeade
- Narrated by: Brian Kilmeade
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The New York Times best-selling author of George Washington's Secret Six and Thomas Jefferson and the Tripoli Pirates turns to two other heroes of the nation: Abraham Lincoln and Frederick Douglass. In The President and the Freedom Fighter, Brian Kilmeade tells the little-known story of how two American heroes moved from strong disagreement to friendship, and in the process changed the entire course of history.
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Great Story and Research
- By Marla O'Halloran on 11-06-21
By: Brian Kilmeade
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To America
- Personal Reflections of an Historian
- By: Stephen E. Ambrose
- Narrated by: Henry Strozier
- Length: 9 hrs and 41 mins
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Reflecting on his career, Stephen E. Ambrose - one of the country's most influential historians - confronts America's failures and struggles as he explores both its moral and pragmatic triumphs. To America celebrates the men and women who invented the United States and made it exceptional. Taking a few swings at today's political correctness, Ambrose grapples with the country's historic sins of racism, its neglect and ill treatment of Native Americans, and its tragic errors.
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Wow!
- By Coach Nathan L. on 02-10-16
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John Brown, Abolitionist
- The Man Who Killed Slavery, Sparked the Civil War, and Seeded Civil Rights
- By: David S. Reynolds
- Narrated by: P.J. Ochlan
- Length: 25 hrs and 14 mins
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Few historical figures are as intriguing as John Brown, the controversial Abolitionist who used terrorist tactics against slavery and single-handedly changed the course of American history. This brilliant biography of Brown (1800-1859) by the prize-winning critic and cultural biographer David S. Reynolds brings to life the Puritan warrior who gripped slavery by the throat and triggered the Civil War. When does principled resistance become anarchic brutality? How can a murderer be viewed as a heroic freedom fighter? The case of John Brown opens windows on these timely issues.
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The story of the man who saved America from itself
- By Marc on 09-29-20
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Hymns of the Republic
- The Story of the Final Year of the American Civil War
- By: S. C. Gwynne
- Narrated by: Robert Petkoff
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The fourth and final year of the Civil War offers one of that era’s most compelling narratives, defining the nation and one of history’s great turning points. Now, S.C. Gwynne’s Hymns of the Republic addresses the time Ulysses S. Grant arrives to take command of all Union armies in March 1864 to the surrender of Robert E. Lee at Appomattox a year later. He breathes new life into the epic battle between Lee and Grant; the advent of 180,000 black soldiers in the Union army; Sherman’s March to the Sea; the rise of Clara Barton; and much more.
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Questionable
- By Stafford Lewis on 05-16-20
By: S. C. Gwynne
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100 Amazing Facts About the Negro
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- Narrated by: Dominic Hoffman
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With élan and erudition - and with winning enthusiasm - Henry Louis Gates Jr. gives us a corrective yet loving homage to Rogers' work. Relying on the latest scholarship, Gates leads us on a romp through African, diasporic, and African American history in question-and-answer format. Among the 100 questions: Who were Africa's first ambassadors to Europe? Who was the first black president in North America? Did Lincoln really free the slaves? Who was history's wealthiest person? What percentage of white Americans have recent African ancestry?
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great book
- By Anthony Costello on 06-14-18
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Union
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Union tells the story of the struggle to create a national myth for the United States, one that could hold its rival regional cultures together and forge an American nationhood.
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Required Reading
- By Ben Brafford on 08-30-20
By: Colin Woodard
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Jesse James
- Last Rebel of the Civil War
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- Narrated by: Christopher Lane
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In this brilliant biography T. J. Stiles offers a new understanding of the legendary outlaw Jesse James. Although he has often been portrayed as a Robin Hood of the old west, in this ground-breaking work Stiles places James within the context of the bloody conflicts of the Civil War to reveal a much more complicated and significant figure.
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Borderline woke retelling of the era JJ live in
- By Rodney on 08-24-22
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The New York Times: Disunion
- Modern Historians Revisit and Reconsider the Civil War from Lincoln's Election to the Emancipation Proclamation
- By: Ted Widmer - editor
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A major new collection of modern commentary - from scholars, historians, and Civil War buffs - on the significant events of the Civil War, culled from The New York Times' popular Disunion online journal.
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Excellent audiobook! Love this format!
- By BVerité on 03-17-15
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Redemption
- The Last Battle of the Civil War
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A century after Appomattox, the civil rights movement won full citizenship for black Americans in the South. It should not have been necessary: by 1870 those rights were set in the Constitution. This is the story of the terrorist campaign that took them away.
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A good accouting of the post Civil War suffering
- By KMB Consumer on 08-10-07
By: Nicholas Lemann
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Life of a Klansman
- A Family History in White Supremacy
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Life of a Klansman tells the story of a warrior in the Ku Klux Klan, a carpenter in Louisiana who took up the cause of fanatical racism during the years after the Civil War. Edward Ball, a descendant of the Klansman, paints a portrait of his family’s anti-Black militant that is part history, part memoir rich in personal detail.
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Thought Provoking, But . . .
- By William G. Stuart on 09-01-20
By: Edward Ball
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1861: The Civil War Awakening
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As the United States marks the 150th anniversary of our defining national drama, 1861 presents a gripping and original account of how the Civil War began. 1861 is an epic of courage and heroism beyond the battlefields. Early in that fateful year, a second American revolution unfolded, inspiring a new generation to reject their parents' faith in compromise and appeasement, to do the unthinkable in the name of an ideal.
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Not what I expected
- By Sol on 07-01-11
By: Adam Goodheart
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Solid. Eye Opening.
5th Gen. Texan here. This was an unflinching look at the roller coaster that has been Texas politics through the lens of its biggest pawn. The Alamo.
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- Melisa Spencer
- 08-02-21
Robust, Fresh Take on The Alamo
I bought this after hearing Burroughs discuss it on NPR. His enthusiasm was fantastic. The book turned out to be more of that with loads of great history. It puts The Alamo squarely in its historical and contemporary space. Regardless of your political beliefs, it should be thought-provoking. I enjoyed it immensely. If I had one criticism it would be the narrator read it so straightforward. I would have preferred Burroughs with his engaging cadence and excitement. Great read though.
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- Asarchus
- 07-24-21
Alamo: Its Myth, History, and Significance
This is a timely book, as the previous standard for Texas and much of American history was to advance white males as primary drivers. "Forget the Alamo" first dissects the legendary (emphasis on "legend") battle, delving into the personal lives of its key players--William Barrett Travis, James Bowie, and David "Davy" Crockett. This book also looks carefully at the troubled relationship between Mexico and the "Texian" immigrants from the Southern United States who brought enslaved black human beings with them to work the cotton fields that blanketed East Texas. Mexico abolished slavery, but the Texians under Stephen F. Austin established a work-around so blacks were indentured for life. Eventually, this system collapsed and a war of independence ensued between the province North of the Rio Grande and the Mexican state. A lingering and shameful tradition developed in which the Mexicans were portrayed as subhuman brutes. Texan students of Mexican heritage were harassed by Anglo classmates on field trips to the Alamo, and Texas 7th graders were taught that the brave Anglo fighters at the battle were mercilessly slaughtered by bloodthirsty, cowardly Mexican soldiers. All this, the authors discover, was largely based on second-hand accounts from the few survivors.
The subsequent history of the Alamo as a collection of buildings and the "Legend of the Alamo" in literature, movies, and television is explored in detail. Fess Parker and John Wayne portrayed Davy Crockett, with Parker becoming a "phenom" in the mid-1950's, inspiring countless young boys like me to don coonskin caps, purchase toy flintlock rifles, and set up backyard Alamos.
English singer/songwriter Phil Collins' obsession with Alamo battle artifacts prompted him to collect dozens of items of dubious origin, items which Collins offered to the State of Texas in return for Texas building a "world class" museum in San Antonio to house his collection. Eventually, this deal fell through as State officials quibbled over how much should be spent on the museum, which agency has control over the site, and whether Collins' artifacts were indeed genuine.
"Forget the Alamo" is not a scholarly work, and its story is hobbled by the refusal of several key players such as Phil Collins and Texas Land Office Commissioner George Prescott Bush to contribute interviews or statements to the authors. In places, the informality of the writing seems inappropriate, considering the seriousness of the subject. Nevertheless, this is an important addition to the Alamo story which sets the record straight on what is fact, fiction, legend, and myth about the battle and its long-lasting aftermath.
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- Bruce Fredericks
- 08-23-21
Sorting out "truth"
Great overview of the history. Makes one thing of how our perception of reality might be askewed.
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- BKA
- 12-17-22
True story of the Alamo that needs repeating
I’m a Texan and this book should be the history book given to all young Texans.
It’s the truth and it makes me so sad to know what lies we all grew up with and are still hearing.
Please, Read and Educate your children.
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- Randall Risner
- 01-05-24
Evenhanded
Very balanced view while being historically accurate. Well worth the listen if you are interested in history and the politics of history today.
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- A. Alva
- 02-07-24
History that NEEDS to be learned
The book does an amazing job of challenging your thoughts and education around the formation of texas and gives you the unapologetic real history.
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- Sheldon Martinez
- 07-01-24
The big fat lie of Texas
I grew up learning these stories from my uncles and grandparents, but hearing them validated what they told us when we were young. It brings much comfort to our late ancestors that fought and died in Texas as the Mexican Americans. it is now 2024 and we’re still hearing and seeing the same ignorant rhetoric About the Alamo in state government. Thank you for investing time and bringing light to the big Texans lie.
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- Numb Legs
- 07-23-24
For Every Texan
Living in San Antonio, some (mostly Phil Collins and the fake memorabilia) is openly discussed. However much of the basic foundations are lost to what has become “normal”. In a time when public opinion seems to guide what is taught and education board meetings are the frontlines for a white nationalist culture war, this is a book that will likely be banned from most school libraries. That is an absolute shame, for this is an even handed, faithful retelling of both the old and the recent. It should be taught. No question about it. Furthermore it is a compelling, interesting story of the winding history. One that pulls the reader along and makes us examine how we came to take certain “truths” for granted. Lastly, this book is a wonderful examination of how myth making and well, propaganda can become respected “fact” for generations.
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- Shea McKeon
- 07-27-21
Eye-opening
An eye-opening history and presentation of the Alamo past--present. I thought I knew something about the "Heroic Last Stand" --now I know I do.
I heard about this book in an article, about how the Governor of Texas was trying to block this book--which led me to check it out; the Governor called it "...fact free..." --and he is wrong. Well researched, well written, committed to truth--the authors deliver, perhaps to much truth. I still admire Davy Crockett and the last stand, if anything I appreciate it a bit more now that I know the Texas Revolution and the Battle of the Alamo was a colabrative effort by many Tejanos/Texans. Like so many true stories there is unsettling tragedy wrapped up in the history.
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