
Rock and Sand
An Orthodox Appraisal of the Protestant Reformers and Their Teachings
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Father Josiah Trenham
About this listen
This audiobook has been made for three purposes. First, to provide the Orthodox listener with a competent overview of the history of Protestantism and its major traditions, from its beginnings in the 16th century to the present day. This overview relies heavily upon the Reformer's own words as well as the creeds of various Protestant faiths in order to avoid misrepresentation and caricature.
Second, to acquaint Orthodox and non-Orthodox listeners with a narrative of the historical relations between the Orthodox East and the Protestant West.
Finally, to provide a summary of Orthodox theological opinion on the tenets of Protestantism.
©2018 Archpriest Josiah Trenham (P)2019 Archpriest Josiah TrenhamListeners also enjoyed...
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Ready to turn what you want into the life that you live? The number-one New York Times best-selling author of The Universe Has Your Back shows you how. In Super Attractor, Gabrielle Bernstein lays out the essential methods for manifesting a life beyond your wildest dreams. This book is a journey of remembering where your true power lies. You'll learn how to co-create the life you want. You'll accept that life can flow, that attracting is fun, and that you don't have to work so hard to get what you want.
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The Qur'an, believed by Muslims to be the word of God, was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad 1,400 years ago. It is the supreme authority in Islam and the living source of all Islamic teaching; it is a sacred text and a book of guidance that sets out the creed, rituals, ethics, and laws of the Islamic religion. It has been one of the most influential books in the history of literature. Recognized as the greatest literary masterpiece in Arabic, it has nevertheless remained difficult to understand in its English translations.
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Missing chapter 44
- By Anonymous User on 05-29-19
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In The Wisdom of the Shamans: What the Ancient Masters Can Teach Us about Love and Life, Toltec shaman and master storyteller Don Jose Ruiz shares some of the most popular stories from his family's oral tradition and offers corresponding lessons that illustrate the larger ideas within each story. According to Ruiz, their teachings are not primitive or reserved for a chosen few initiates but are instead a powerful series of lessons on love and life that are available us all.
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Wooowzers
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Change Your Mind uses revolutionary teachings to help rewire your subconscious mind and bring balance to your energy. Through a fourteen-day journaling exercise, you’ll uncover the mental programming already affecting you, and then apply specialized activities to counteract it. RJ guides you every step of the way, providing meditations, mindfulness practices, and more. He demonstrates how to not only meet the real you, but also maintain and express it through numerous activities you can easily integrate into your daily life.
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OMG! What a shock!
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- J. Murguz
- 02-29-24
The well laid out discussion on reformed theology
Instrumental in my conversion to Orthodoxy. I was humbled by my lack of knowledge of the true church and impressed with the loving tone of the author
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- Caleb
- 01-14-25
clear and illuminating primer on the reformation
read by the author, this book was educational, encouraging, and humbling as a new Orthodox convert.
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- Oceanmann
- 04-05-21
A treat
I learned so much and Enjoyed every minute of this book. I would recommend to everyone interested in church history and the differences between Protestants and the orthodoxy.
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- Jake Sutherland
- 12-12-23
Illuminating
Very informative and helpful in discerning what is orthodox from my Protestant up bringing! Helped me recognize where some of the thinking I encountered in Protestantism came from.
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- Anonymous User
- 02-19-24
Truth be told
I, myself was Protestant (Pentecostal) and became Orthodox. It’s been hard trying to reconcile those I love who reject Orthodoxy yet claim a deep love for Christ. Are they in the church or apart of Christ’s body, or not? This book is generous and truthful about Protestantism while giving a valid claim to Orthodoxy. I pray the Lord puts the right question’s upon each of our hearts and may He guide us into all truth.
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- Bruce E. McClelland
- 07-25-19
Excellent
I would recommend Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast series called "Prophets of Doom" for a deeper dive into some of the Reformation-caused turmoil briefly mentioned in this book.
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- Chesterton Cobb
- 06-13-20
Wonderful!
Recommended reading for any Protestant whose never heard the Orthodox version of church history! Very abrasive, but right to the point.
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- Peter
- 05-21-24
Compelling
I like the clarity of the orthodox beliefs, especially when it comes to scripture and interoperating it.
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- Cheesebodia
- 06-04-19
A Pointed Appeal
AT A GLANCE:
If you haven't guessed by the title, the "Rock" represents the stability of Orthodoxy while the "Sand" represents the ever-changing nature of Protestant theology. This is a polemical work, and unashamedly so.
CONTENT:
The Protestant reformers are examined individually, with most of the time naturally going to Luther and Calvin's magisterial reformations. We are given a decent amount of historical context for each and clearly informed where their teachings diverge from historic Christian orthodoxy. The accounts are generally well-sourced and the arguments display a high degree of scholarship. Though combative, this is less a "Syllabus of Errors" and more like a selection from John Damascene. There is a clear admiration for Protestant evangelism and their high view of Scripture. The book ends with a set of letters and treatises on the topic dated 1672 - 1912.
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Fr Trenham is an academically-accomplished archpriest in the Orthodox Church in America (OCA) with a focus on Patristic studies, especially St John Chrysostom. He was once a Calvinist and this is often apparent in his style; his tone is biting and his rhetoric forceful. His popular work and teaching engages American culture from a highly traditional perspective, framing Orthodoxy as a bedrock of reason free from modernist leanings and the development of doctrine. One of his stated goals is to avoid triumphalism and he succeeds at first, though beginning around Chapter 14 this goal is largely abandoned.
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If you've ever wondered what the historical Eastern Orthodox position is towards Protestantism, this is an excellent resource. It is unfettered by modern ecumenical tendencies and follows lines of argument supported by saints in the author's tradition. Granted, many Orthodox will take issue with his tone and how the emphasis strays from focus on Christian unity; nonetheless, I appreciate that Fr Trenham is willing to stare headlong at real ideological differences and bring them into the open rather than concealing or glossing over them.
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- Gabriela Gammo
- 08-20-20
From a Former Confessional Reformed...
Having been formerly confessionally reformed and an avid student of Reformed thought (especially of the most historic Reformed minds, I didn’t think I could learn anything from this book and thus avoided it. I decided to listen to it so that I could recommenced it to others (or not) and WOW. Every Christian of any tradition should listen to this book... especially Orthodox Christians who are not familiar with Protestantism and Evangelicalism but also especially Evangelicals who are not familiar with Christian Orthodoxy. It’s an amazing book for anyone and everyone. I can not recommend it enough.
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