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Talking Points

Abortion: Christian Compassion, Convictions, and Wisdom for Today’s Big Issues

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Talking Points

By: Dr. Lizzie Ling, Vaughan Roberts
Narrated by: Sarah Zimmerman
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Helps Christians to think biblically, speak wisely, and act compassionately on the complex issue of abortion.

Our culture is locked in a battle between two opposing worldviews on abortion. How should Christians advise those who are considering or being pressured into an abortion? How can we help those who are struggling with the emotional and spiritual fallout from abortion? What stance should we take in the public arena, and how should we conduct ourselves in conversations on these subjects?

In this short book, Dr. Lizzie Ling and Vaughan Roberts survey the Christian worldview and help us to think biblically, speak wisely, and act compassionately as we engage with the people, the questions, and the heartache surrounding abortion, in a society with very different values.

©2020 Lizzie Ling and Vaughan Roberts (P)2021 eChristian
Ministry & Evangelism Social Issues

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Biased Disinformation

The haughty voice of the narrator, with breathy pauses and drawn out vowels almost lulled me into a passive acceptance of her opinions. Then I would hear “abortions most certainly cause future fertility issues and more frequent miscarriages” and 😳. This is right after she says that the studies of the harms of abortion tend to be biased. Then she continues “it’s linked to breast cancer”, which is has been definitively proven not to be the case. What bothers me the most about this book are the references to Bible verses as ‘proof’ of embryonic development. Because God ‘knew’ someone before they were in THE WOMB, or John the Baptist leapt in THE WOMB for Jesus in THE WOMB, that proves embryos are persons!! 🤦🏻‍♀️

She starts off speaking about ‘definitely, a distinct and unique life begins at conception’… so then monozygotic twins are half lives? Life is a process, a cycle. There are many, many reasons people are pro-choice, but one is because people like these tend to ignore everything a woman’s body goes through during pregnancy, the dangers of pregnancy, how when abortion is banned women have always sought out ways to end pregnancies, induced abortions are NOT something new since feminists came & demanded it. Methods of abortions happened before Jesus’s time, were definitely still being practiced during his time, yet the author points to so many indirect examples of embryos having sentience, being “made by God” (again, women’s bodies are overlooked). She doesn’t mention the bitter water test to see if a wife had been unfaithful or the discrepancies in punishment for a man in a fight with another and accidentally killing a a man’s wife versus if the wife was pregnant, the fetus is lost, punishment is lesser. Both were men’s property at the time. But obviously Biblical law does not apply the same weight to an ‘unborn’ than a born human. Most obviously, the Bible doesn’t ban abortion explicitly even though it was practiced at that time.

I haven’t finished this but it seems to overlook the humanity of women, doesn’t mention that every major city hospital had a septic ward for women who had harmed themselves attempting abortions prior to Roe. The first abortion referral service was started by a priest, pastor and Rabbi. A first trimester abortion is also 10-14 times less deadly than gestating a pregnancy to term and childbirth. Pregnancy is not health neutral, embryos do not jump in the womb nor have sentience, we know for certain women are people who deserve to safeguard own lives and health without undue burden. These books continue to shame women and dehumanize sentient, breathing humans (not wombs) for entities who are potential human beings. They continue to refer to women as ‘murderers’ for ending pregnancies, then use the guilt some women feel as ‘proof’ it harms all of us and should be banned.

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