Finding the Right Hills to Die On
The Case for Theological Triage
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In theology, just as in battle, some hills are worth dying on. But how do we know which ones? When should doctrine divide, and when should unity prevail? Pastor Gavin Ortlund makes the case that while all doctrines matter, some are more essential than others.
He considers how and what to prioritize in doctrine and ministry, encouraging humility and grace along the way. Using four basic categories of doctrine in order of importance, this book helps new and seasoned church leaders alike wisely labor both to uphold doctrine and to preserve unity.
©2020 Gavin Ortlund (P)2020 eChristianListeners also enjoyed...
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Takes scripture very seriously
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The last command Jesus gave the church before he ascended to heaven was the Great Commission, the call for Christians to "make disciples of all the nations.
"But Christians have responded by making "Christians", not "disciples". This, according to brilliant scholar and renowned Christian thinker Dallas Willard, has been the church's Great Omission.
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Am I Christian enough to make it to heaven?
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Many Christians today tend to view the story of medieval faith as a cautionary tale. Too often, they dismiss the Middle Ages as a period of corruption and decay in the church. They seem to assume that the church apostatized from true Christianity after it gained cultural influence in the time of Constantine, and that the faith was only later recovered by the 16th-century Reformers or even the 18th-century revivalists. As a result, the riches and wisdom of the medieval period have remained largely inaccessible to modern Protestants.
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A splendid introduction to Medieval faith from an Evangelical perspective
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In Reasons to Believe, Scott Hahn, a convert to Catholicism, explains the "how and why" of the Catholic faith - drawing from Scripture, his own struggles, and those of other converts, as well as from everyday life and even natural science. Hahn shows that reason and revelation, as well as nature and the supernatural, are not opposed to one another; rather, they offer complementary evidence that God exists. He is someone, and He has a personality, a personal style, that is discernable and knowable.
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A Catholic for convition and tradition
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first thing he did was deny Christ's deity.
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Meister Ekhart foisting his sexuality....
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In Jesus on Trial, New York Times bestselling author David Limbaugh applies his lifetime of legal experience to a unique new undertaking: making a case for the gospels as hard evidence of the life and work of Jesus Christ. Limbaugh, a practicing attorney and former professor of law, approaches the canonical gospels with the same level of scrutiny he would apply to any legal document and asks all the necessary questions about the story of Jesus....
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What a disappointment
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The Reason for God
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The End of Faith. The God Delusion. God Is Not Great. Letter to a Christian Nation. Best seller lists are filled with doubters. But what happens when you actually doubt your doubts? Timothy Keller, the founding pastor of Redeemer Presbyterian Church in New York City, addresses the frequent doubts that skeptics, and even ardent believers, have about religion.
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Unrivaled Apologetics
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A comprehensive review of Mormon theology
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Is not what I was hoping
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- Amazon Customer
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think beforehand
This book gives good examples of where a Christian should think carefully before speaking or acting when faced with a differing point of view. Humility and love should be our primary motivations when discussing different religious doctrines while still not compromising on the most important truths.
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- Tiffany
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Gracious Humility
I appreciate the call to practice gracious humility in regards to differing interpretations of scripture and different doctrinal creeds. The church should strive for Unity not division in regards to non core doctrines.
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- Jessica Pafumi
- 02-09-23
Solid wisdom
In today’s culture, it is so easy to divide, but this book gives an outline for the way of Jesus in pursuing wisdom and humility when it comes to talking about and living out our doctrine.
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- Jan H
- 10-12-23
Excellent book!
This book was very helpful in my journey as a believer & navigating the differences we have. I love Gavin's emphasis on humility & unity. I highly recommend this book to those working through doctrinal and/or different convictions with those they are close to.
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- Jenny
- 03-12-24
Enjoyed this immensely
Good advice on this subject . Will listen again … I’ve enjoyed every book. I’ve listened to by this author.
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- NOAH T. SMITH
- 04-17-23
Fantastic and incredibly timely!
Ortlund’s take on this topic is incredibly useful and timely. More churches would be saved from a lot of conflict if they read this book. Very short and sweet, but packs a punch. Worth your time!
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- Jonathon W Smith
- 03-16-24
excellent
fairly thorough for how short it is. I would like to have seen more on practical applicability for the modern reader.
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- 07-13-24
Wisdom, humility, and a good place to start
This should be a required reading for anyone who wants to debate theology. Ortlund has a lot to offer in this short book.
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- Larry C
- 09-04-21
Theological triage: start with humility!
Broad brush on some matters, deep biblical and historical explanation of "hot" topics. Well done! Humility in all things, especially in the issues of doctrine. The unity of the Church was very important to Jesus and should be to His disciples (All Believers!).
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- S. H. Nelson
- 02-06-24
The categories are good, more perspectives would have been helpful.
Audio-wise, there’s a few jarring pronunciations of Herman Bavinck (should not have an emphasized INK) and Francis Turretin (the man was an Italian and shouldn’t be pronounced like a French name).
Substantively, the book has a helpful set of theological triage categories laid out that I think are helpful. I think it’s unfortunately rather limited in its time applicability beyond those categories because it’s limited to the particular issues that happen to be the most common in contemporary evangelical circles but doesn’t really provide a strong creedal glue or encourage the reader to embrace such a position. This isn’t just confessionalism but not really doing a deep dive into the historic creeds in order to really flesh out the first order issues.
It’s helpful to see Rev. Ortland’s particular doctrinal hinge points are (baptism, sign gifts, women in ministry, creation days, and the millennium) have been, and those are common in evangelical circles, but they’re not the only hinge points historically at all.
His common debate partner, the Lutheran Jordan Cooper could add some very interesting content and perspective from the other side of the Reformation. Similarly, an Anglican or confessional Presbyterian could provide some different takes on their particulars, especially on what’s second and third order for their groups.
Overall, I think it’s a good starting place for those trying to weigh doctrinal issues but will probably be pretty time bound. For a similar treatment that fleshes out top level issues really well and has a similar focus, I think Trevin Wax’s Thrill of Orthodoxy is the much stronger work, because it doesn’t just rush through the first order issues where there’s real unity.
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