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The figure of Dietrich Bonhoeffer (1906-1945) has become a clay puppet in modern American politics. Secular, radical, liberal, and evangelical interpreters variously shape and mold the martyr’s legacy to suit their own pet agendas.
Stephen Haynes offers an incisive and clarifying perspective. A recognized Bonhoeffer expert, Haynes examines “populist” readings of Bonhoeffer, including the acclaimed biography by Eric Metaxas, Bonhoeffer: Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy. In his analysis Haynes treats, among other things, the November 2016 election of Donald Trump and the “Bonhoeffer moment” announced by evangelicals in response to the US Supreme Court’s 2015 decision to legalize same-sex marriage.
The Battle for Bonhoeffer includes an open letter from Haynes pointedly addressing Christians who still support Trump. Bonhoeffer’s legacy matters. Haynes redeems the life and the man.
©2018 Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co. (P)2018 Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co.Listeners also enjoyed...
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Dinesh D'Souza, the most original and controversial writer on politics and society in the U.S. today, uncovers the links between the spread of American pop culture, leftist ideas, and secular values and the rise of anti-Americanism throughout the world. In The Enemy at Home, D'Souza makes the startling claim that 9/11 and other terrorist acts can be directly traced to the ideas and attitudes perpetrated by America's cultural left.
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FINALLY, Someone gets it!!
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In the aftermath of World War II, the United States stood at a precipice. The forces of modernity unleashed by the war had led to astonishing advances in daily life, but technology and mass culture also threatened to erode the country's traditional moral character. As award-winning historian George M. Marsden explains in The Twilight of the American Enlightenment, postwar Americans looked to the country's secular liberalelites for guidance in this precarious time, but these intellectuals proved unable to articulate a coherent common cause by which America could chart its course.
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Such a relevant book to our current world
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Weikart reveals the startling and fascinating truth about the most hated man of the 20th century: Adolf Hitler was a pantheist who believed nature was God. In Hitler's Religion, Weikart explains how the laws of nature became Hitler's only moral guide - how he became convinced he would serve God by annihilating supposedly "inferior" human beings and promoting the welfare and reproduction of the allegedly superior Aryansin accordance with racist forms of Darwinism prevalent at the time.
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Hitler's Religion - (Subtile is ridiculous)
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Although Christian believers agreed with one another that the Bible was authoritative and that it should be interpreted through commonsense principles, there was rampant disagreement about what Scripture taught about slavery. Furthermore, most Americans continued to believe that God ruled over the affairs of people and nations, but they were radically divided in their interpretations of what God was doing in and through the war.
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Nice addition to History of U.S. Religious Culture
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Gay marriage, transgender rights, birth control - sex is at the heart of many of the most divisive political issues of our age. The origins of these conflicts, historian R. Marie Griffith argues, lie in sharp disagreements that emerged among American Christians a century ago. From the 1920s onward, a once-solid Christian consensus regarding gender roles and sexual morality began to crumble, as liberal Protestants sparred with fundamentalists and Catholics over questions of obscenity, sex education, and abortion.
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Very thorough
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Thy Kingdom Come
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For much of American history, evangelicalism was aligned with progressive political causes: nineteenth-century evangelicals fought for the abolition of slavery, universal suffrage, and public education. But contemporary conservative activists have defaulted on this majestic legacy, embracing instead an agenda virtually indistinguishable from the Republican Party platform.
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Historical Reality
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Last Call for Liberty
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The hour is critical. The American republic is suffering its gravest crisis since the Civil War. Conflicts, hostility, and incivility now threaten to tear the country apart. Competing visions have led to a dangerous moment of cultural self-destruction. This is no longer politics as usual, but an era of political warfare where our enemies are not foreign adversaries, but our fellow citizens. Yet the roots of the crisis are deeper than many realize. Os Guinness argues that we face a fundamental crisis of freedom, as America's genius for freedom has become her Achilles' heel.
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Thought Provoking Work On Liberty In America
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The Fire Is upon Us
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On February 18, 1965, an overflowing crowd packed the Cambridge Union in Cambridge, England, to witness a historic televised debate between James Baldwin, the leading literary voice of the civil rights movement, and William F. Buckley Jr., a fierce critic of the movement and America's most influential conservative intellectual. The topic was "the American dream is at the expense of the American Negro", and no one who has seen the debate can soon forget it. Nicholas Buccola's The Fire Is upon Us is the first book to tell the full story of the event.
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Sadly, the story is timeless.
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A Battle for the Soul of Islam
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- By: M. Zuhdi Jasser
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Among the unsettling social shifts in the wake of 9/11 was the global attention paid to Islam. Here in the United States, we became divided, often sadly along partisan lines, between those who believed every Muslim was a potential threat and those who believed no Muslim could do wrong. For conservative Wisconsin native and former U.S. Navy lieutenant commander Dr. M. Zuhdi Jasser, these radical times meant facing a new reality as a devout Muslim and a patriot - a certain betrayal within his faith.
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A courageous and clear champion of American Liberty
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White Christian Privilege
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- By: Khyati Y. Joshi
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- Length: 8 hrs and 45 mins
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The United States is recognized as the most religiously diverse country in the world, and yet its laws and customs, which many have come to see as normal features of American life, actually keep the constitutional ideal of “religious freedom for all” from becoming a reality. Christian beliefs, norms, and practices infuse our society; they are embedded in our institutions, creating the structures and expectations that define the idea of “Americanness.”
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Audible needs to allow longer headlines
- By Adam Shields on 07-28-20
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Liberal Fascism
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- By: Jonah Goldberg
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"Fascists", "Brownshirts", "jackbooted stormtroopers" - such are the insults typically hurled at conservatives by their liberal opponents. Calling someone a fascist is the fastest way to shut them up, defining their views as beyond the political pale. But who are the real fascists in our midst?
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Great book
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- Mary C. O. McIntosh
- 10-14-18
Compelling and timely
This book was a terrific one to listen to on a cross-country road trip. Parts 1 and 2 give a really accessible and highly informative historical understanding of the way Bonhoeffer has been viewed, used and discussed by Americans since his execution. I learned a great deal about Bonhoeffer's role in academia and the popular and political mind. But perhaps the best part of the book for me, as a non-scholar who still values critical academic analysis, was Part 3, "Triumph of the Populist Bonhoeffer". Haynes chronicles the way Bonhoeffer has been molded by evangelicals and liberals in recent years with a broad analysis of the writings, television transcript excerpts, blog postings, newspaper columns, and other sources devoted to Bonhoeffer from the full spectrum of political and religious thought. This portion was an important look back for me as I try to make some sense of the extraordinary times we are living through. Haynes' Open Letter to Evangelicals at the book's conclusion is powerful. It is a heartfelt and candid challenge that left me pondering more broadly the role of all Christians (including me) in this tumultuous political time.
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- Troy Buffington
- 12-18-19
Makes you think
Slow at the start. Definitely full of information about Bonhoeffer and the state of our country today.
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- Christopher Ross
- 07-25-22
Thought Provoking.
Haynes presents a great overview of the use and misuse of the Bonhoeffer legacy by conservatives, liberals and even, athiests. Regardless of political persuasion, this book reminds us of the importance of honest presentation and application of historical figures and events to modern society, lest we create a wax nose Bonhoeffer in our own image. If you have an interest in Bonhoeffer l would encourage the reading of this book but even more, and l am sure the author agrees, ad fontes, back to the sources, read Bonhoeffer himself.
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- Believer50
- 09-30-19
Not As Expected
I got this via audiobook boom and this is my voluntary review. I did not know anything about the person this book is talking about. I got it so that I might understand the Evangelicals in this country. My conclusion after the book was completed from his final letter to the Evangelicals. These are the same people who accepted segregation and turned a blind eye to what Jim Crow laws were doing to this country. They are also the same ones who hated that the country had a black President.. I have been a whole Bible believing Christian for the past 30 years. I study the whole Bible, history, the present, and not just a pick and chose verses that help support what I think. this book helped me to see clearer that everyone including our Vice President are pickers. The Words of Jesus are very clear on many matters. they also can be clearer if one actually studied the whole passage as well as the history, setting, and who the passage is talking to and or relates to. If you just pulled a verse out such as the one that talks about the power of life and death is in the tongue and not read the surrounding passages one might believe that they can speak things into existence. But just a cursory reading of that passage lets you know that it is talking about a particular person. so many other passages that people throw around as concrete truths are treated that way. Yet passages that tell you the greatest of these is love slip over their heads. How does putting kids in cages, stealing kids from parents with no way of reuniting them fit into love. Truly following the whole bible takes conviction, study, and asking God for the wisdom and understanding that He desires us to have. Not our own understanding and we don't have wisdom unless God gives it to us. We have knowledge but not wisdom. a wise man takes the time to understand what they believe.
God's Word never changes and one of the precepts is that character counts. My eyes are clearer now about Evangelicals and getting clearer. I hope we as a nation don't allow what happened to Germany to happen here. When people who follow Jesus allow things to slide just because the agenda they have is being set forth, bad things happen. I wonder how they will feel when the EPA standards that have been rolled back starts affecting them. The people of Flint, and other towns in this country will not be the only ones drinking impure water, while the people in the white House drink water imported from a factory.
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- Alex Martinez
- 09-30-19
Great for someone familiar with Bohnoeffer
I think this is a audiobook that would be better appreciated by someone very familiar with Bonhoeffer; if I were more familiar with this famous Christian, and with other works about him, I would have liked it even more. I enjoyed learning about the "misappropriation" of Bonhoeffer by those from whom Bonhoeffer would, perhaps, not have associated with.
I am very grateful that I was given this free review copy audiobook at my request; I have voluntarily left this review.
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- Kristjan Larson
- 04-05-22
Reclaiming Bonhoeffer from Misappropriation
Not exactly what I was expecting ...
Narration was as expected within a lecture stye presentation where it is tough to break out.
The book itself covers a number of examples where the right wing of the christian evangelical movement incorrectly appropriated the legacy of Bonhoeffer to support their struggle to demonize their opponents in what they see as a culture war. In particular, this book highlights significant scholastic deficiencies with the work of Eric Metaxas (Bonhoeffer: Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy) that was used to launch their current fasciation and association with Bonhoeffer's fight against the WWII Nazi regime.
I was given this free advance listener copy (ALC) audiobook at my request and have voluntarily left this review.
#TheBattleForBonhoeffer #AudibookFree
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- Adam Shields
- 10-12-18
Bonhoeffer was a person, not a Rorschach test
Dietrich Bonhoeffer is one of the most respected Christian figures of the 20th century. But it would not be surprising that his legacy is debated. Bonhoeffer’s works span 16 volumes in the complete works. Those complete works include letters, books, fiction, sermons, academic papers and more. It is unsurprising in the breadth of his work over time that there significant changes in thought, even in his short life.
What may be surprising for many is how recent the interest in Bonhoeffer is. There is a good chapter by Timothy Larson in Bonhoeffer, Christ and Culture that traces Evangelical reception to Bonhoeffer. And Martin Marty’s biography of the book Letters and Papers from Prison has a long section that traces the history of how Bonhoeffer was received as well.
The Battle for Bonhoeffer is really a book length expansion of the use and misuse of Bonhoeffer that both of the two mentioned book discuss in shorter sections. And for the most part is a scathing critique of the misuse while noting some of the better uses.
Bonhoeffer’s ideas have been controversially appropriated for different movements nearly from the start. John Robinson’s very controversial book Honest to God used Bonhoeffer’s concept of religion-less Christianity. But in 1963 when Honest to God was published, Bonhoeffer was not widely known and Bonhoeffer was tainted in conservative circles because of his attachment to Honest to God.
Haynes carefully walks through how different groups have used (and often misused or distorted) Bonhoeffer for their own purposes. This is a brief but helpful reminder that broader context of a person’s life and work is important to rightly understanding and using a person’s ideas. My largest take away from Battle for Bonhoeffer is the importance of actually understanding the subject before talking about it.
There is special and extensive critique of Eric Metaxas and his biography. Metaxas is not a historian or theologian. While Haynes notes the value in Metaxas bringing more attention to Bonhoeffer, Haynes has almost nothing positive to say about the quality of Metaxas’ work. I am far from a Bonhoeffer scholar and at the time I first read Bonhoeffer, Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy, I noticed at least a half dozen mistakes. Haynes notes far more.
While Haynes is very critical of Metaxas and others bad use of Bonhoeffer, he is not unreasonable in expecting that subjects of biographies be treated accurately. As I was reading, I was reminded of Bradley Wright’s Christians are Hate Filled Hypocrites and Other Lies You’ve Been Told. Both are attempting to correct Christians that badly use data/history. Many Christians that are using data/history badly are justifying the bad use because of their good intentions. Wright talks about pastors trying to prove the importance of their subjects in their preaching by searching for the worst statistics they can find instead of accurately presenting data. Haynes’ point about Metaxas bad use of history and his ignorance of Bonhoeffer’s theology and historical context is that even if Metaxas had good intentions, the bad history still is bad history.
Battle for Bonhoeffer is subtitled ‘Debating Discipleship in the Age of Trump.’ And there are several sections at the end that deal with current events. Part of the context of the critique of Metaxas is how Metaxas used Bonhoeffer as a weapon in his critique of Obama and Metaxas' support of Trump. Haynes is very concerned about how many modern figures on the political left and right keep pointing to Hitler’s Germany as somehow parallel to either Obama or Trump’s America.
However, at the end of Battle for Bonhoeffer, Haynes writes an open letter to Christians that are currently supporting Trump because he believes that while Trump is not Hitler, there are things that can be learned from Bonhoeffer that are relevant to our current political situation. He distinguishes between those that reluctantly voted for Trump but are concerned about Trump’s policies today and those that nearly two year after his election continue to fully support Trump. (Christianity Today reported on a survey by Lifeway that was released yesterday, Oct 11, 2018, that said that 52% of all Christian pastors support Trump’s presidential performance, 28% disapprove and 20% are unsure).
I am not sure many supporters of Trump will pick up a book about the use and misuse of Bonhoeffer, so I doubt that Battle for Bonhoeffer will make much of an impact to Trump's level of support. However, as an individual, this is a screed that I thought was personally useful in reminding me the importance of academic research, the limits of using historical data on understanding current events and the need to honestly inspect how we pick and choose data to make our points.
#Sweepstakes #History #Biography
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- Blaine
- 09-20-24
Great analysis of how pseudo-historians bastardized Bonhoeffer’s legacy
Author did not shy away from difficult topics. The comparison between evangelicals and Bonhoeffer is painful. The materials to debunk it are sparse. Glad this is out there.
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- Wesley
- 06-17-19
not horrible, but not worth paying for
not worth the time
author has a single thesis and repeats it...over and over again.
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