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To Change the Church
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A New York Times columnist and one of America's leading conservative thinkers considers Pope Francis' efforts to change the church he governs.
Born Jorge Mario Bergoglio in 1936, today Pope Francis is the 266th pope of the Roman Catholic Church. Pope Francis' stewardship of the church, while perceived as a revelation by many, has provoked division throughout the world. "If a conclave were to be held today", one Roman source told The New Yorker, "Francis would be lucky to get 10 votes."
In To Change the Church, Douthat explains why the particular debate Francis has opened - over communion for the divorced and the remarried - is so dangerous: how it cuts to the heart of the larger argument over how Christianity should respond to the sexual revolution and modernity itself, how it promises or threatens to separate the church from its own deep past, and how it divides Catholicism along geographical and cultural lines. Douthat argues that the Francis era is a crucial experiment for all of Western civilization, which is facing resurgent external enemies (from ISIS to Putin) even as it struggles with its own internal divisions, its decadence, and self-doubt. Whether Francis or his critics are right won't just determine whether he ends up as a hero or a tragic figure for Catholics. It will determine whether he's a hero or a gambler who's betraying both his church and his civilization into the hands of its enemies.
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In this original and riveting exploration, Susan Jacoby argues that conversion - especially in the free American "religious marketplace" - is too often viewed only within the conventional and simplistic narrative of personal reinvention and divine grace. Instead, the author places conversions within a secular social context that has, at various times, included the force of a unified church and state, desire for upward economic mobility, and interreligious marriage.
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Our own fabrications
- By David E. Felker on 01-03-17
By: Susan Jacoby
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Turning Points
- Decisive Moments in the History of Christianity
- By: Mark A. Noll
- Narrated by: James Anderson Foster
- Length: 14 hrs and 33 mins
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In this popular introduction to church history, now in its third edition, Mark Noll isolates key events that provide a framework for understanding the history of Christianity. The book presents Christianity as a worldwide phenomenon rather than just a Western experience. Students in academic settings and church adult education contexts will benefit from this one-semester survey of Christian history.
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Excellent, Brief Snippet’s
- By ejb on 01-06-23
By: Mark A. Noll
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A.D. 381
- Heretics, Pagans, and the Dawn of the Monotheistic State
- By: Charles Freeman
- Narrated by: Robert Blumenfeld
- Length: 9 hrs and 39 mins
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In A.D. 381, Theodosius, emperor of the eastern Roman empire, issued a decree in which all his subjects were required to subscribe to a belief in the Trinity of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. This edict defined Christian orthodoxy and brought to an end a lively and wide-ranging debate about the nature of God; all other interpretations were now declared heretical.
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Dont pass it up
- By brett on 01-21-11
By: Charles Freeman
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The Reformation for Armchair Theologians
- By: Glen Sunshine
- Narrated by: Kate Reading
- Length: 6 hrs and 27 mins
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This listenable, accessible narrative story of the Protestant Reformation provides a solid grounding in the history of the Reformation and its leading ideas. The and the inclusion of "Questions for Discussion" and "Suggestions for Further Reading" make this book excellent for study groups, or as a refresher "course" for students - and even as a good starting point for those interested in the larger discipline of church history.
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Sunshine Shines Brightly!
- By LP on 03-14-16
By: Glen Sunshine
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Christianity
- The First Three Thousand Years
- By: Diarmaid MacCulloch
- Narrated by: Walter Dixon
- Length: 46 hrs and 29 mins
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Once in a generation, a historian will redefine his field, producing a book that demands to be read or heard - a product of electrifying scholarship conveyed with commanding skill. Diarmaid MacCulloch's Christianity is such a book. Breathtaking in ambition, it ranges back to the origins of the Hebrew Bible and covers the world, following the three main strands of the Christian faith.
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Bias
- By David Danielson on 10-04-10
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The Story of Christianity, Vol. 1, Revised and Updated
- The Early Church to the Dawn of the Reformation
- By: Justo L. González
- Narrated by: Michael Kramer
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In The Story of Christianity, Vol. 1, Justo L. González, author of the highly praised three-volume History of Christian Thought, presents a narrative history of Christianity from the early church to the dawn of the Protestant reformation. From Jesus' faithful apostles to the early reformist John Wycliffe, González skillfully traces core theological issues and developments within the various traditions of the church, including major events outside of Europe, such as the Spanish and Portuguese conquest of the New World.
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Throughly engaging
- By Scott Pursley on 12-15-16
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Aristotle's Children
- How Christian, Muslims and Jews Rediscovered Ancient Wisdom
- By: Richard E. Rubenstein
- Narrated by: Nelson Runger
- Length: 13 hrs and 36 mins
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Best-selling author Richard E. Rubenstein brings the past to life in this engrossing story of social, religious, and scientific revolution during one of the darkest periods in European history. When a group of Dark Ages scholars rediscovered the works of Aristotle, the great thinker's ideas ignited a firestorm of enlightened thought. This is the endlessly fascinating account of the pivotal period in history when the modern era took root.
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Interesting story of the rediscovery of Aristotle
- By John on 12-16-04
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The Next Christendom
- The Coming of Global Christianity
- By: Philip Jenkins
- Narrated by: Robert Feifar
- Length: 12 hrs and 32 mins
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In this new and substantially expanded Third Edition, Philip Jenkins continues to illuminate the remarkable expansion of Christianity in the global South - in Africa, Asia, and Latin America. Drawing upon the extensive new scholarship that has appeared on this topic in recent years, he asks how the new Christianity is likely to affect the poor, among whom it finds its most devoted adherents. How should we interpret the enormous success of prosperity churches across the Global South? Politically, what will be the impact of new Christian movements?
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Be aware that the audio book is an old edition
- By GANC Line on 04-20-18
By: Philip Jenkins
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The Irony of Modern Catholic History
- How the Church Rediscovered Itself and Challenged the Modern World to Reform
- By: George Weigel
- Narrated by: Rick Adamson
- Length: 9 hrs and 59 mins
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Throughout much of the 19th century, both secular and Catholic leaders assumed that the Church and the modern world were locked in a battle to the death. The triumph of modernity would not only finish the Church as a consequential player in world history; it would also lead to the death of religious conviction. But today, the Catholic Church is far more vital and consequential than it was 150 years ago.
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Well written and considered book, bad narrator
- By Brad on 12-13-19
By: George Weigel
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Worshipping the State
- How Liberalism Became Our State Religion
- By: Benjamin Wiker PhD
- Narrated by: Ken Maxon
- Length: 11 hrs and 28 mins
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Many Christians feel that they are being opposed at every turn by what seems to be a well-orchestrated political and cultural campaign to de-Christianize every aspect of Western culture. They are right, and it goes even further back than the Obama Administration. In Worshipping the State: How Liberalism Became Our State Religion, Benjamin Wiker argues that it is liberals who seek to establish an official state religion: one of unbelief.
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An Excellent Excellent book
- By Rara Sh on 01-22-24
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The Chosen Wars
- By: Steven R. Weisman
- Narrated by: Grover Gardner
- Length: 12 hrs and 7 mins
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The Chosen Wars tells the dramatic story of how Judaism redefined itself in America in the 18th and 19th centuries - the personalities that fought each other and shaped its evolution and, importantly, the force of the American dynamic that prevailed over an ancient religion. Determined to take their places as equals in the young nation, American Jews rejected identity as a separate nation and embraced a secular America. Judaism became an American religion.
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A History of the Reform Movement
- By E. B. Weinberg on 08-24-18
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- Superfluous Man
- 04-01-18
Fine Book, Risible Narration
Mr. Douthat’s fine work is unexceptionable, but the narration leaves much to be desired. A partial list of egregiously mispronounced words: synod, despoliation, papabile, Kulturkampf, Boniface, fumi-e, hagan liu, ecumenism, Lettres provinciales.
The publisher owes an author of Douthat’s reputation and vocabulary a narration to match—I rarely write a review of this kind, but given the specialized subject matter, it would have been far preferable to have the author read the text himself.
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- David Rivera
- 04-06-18
Mispronunciations
Very well narrated but mispronounced many foreign language words.
Should check how things are pronounced in Italian, Latin etc...
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- Ian
- 07-24-21
Terrifyingly honest presentation of Pope Francis
Writing as a journalist, Douthat investigates the Francis years as they've developed. From middle ground compromise between "conservative" and "reformer" factions in the church, to liberalizing, polarizing wrecking ball reformer in recent years, Douthat traces the transformation and movements in Rome, and views the Chruch-changing events from as many angles as possible.
Well written, well argued, and well read by the narrator.
Warning to Catholics who might have more fragile beliefs, this is rough. I recently reconverted, and I've read Douthat's other other books. I picked this up hoping for an insightful update on the Francis years. It gave me what I was asked for, but that was more than I bargained for. There is a lot of airing of dirty laundry here, it's all publicly available, all cited sources you can check; but still it's a compilation of facts you likely would not have put together on your own. There's a lot of dirty politics it seems the Holy Father is playing, and a lot of the implications of the book suggest we may be in years of a heretical Pope who is consciously damaging all that we know of to be "the Church" in favor of some poorly articulated "higher morality." The author makes a good case for this, which was the most upsetting part for me, it wasn't some right wing wonk, it was quality journalism. As a common Catholic, there isn't much I can do but pray. This may just cause pain with no practical transformation offered for you unless you are connected with a Bishop or Cardinal. Listener beware.
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- M. E. Bon
- 04-08-18
Church or God.
Glad I have never found myself trapped in church "stuff". Nothing to do with sprituality.
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- Roman
- 04-03-18
A Conservative's View of the modern Church
Although I fundamentally disagree with Douthat's analysis (and conclusions), I found this to be a fascinating account of the state of affairs in the Catholic Church over the past 55 years---especially his "insider's" perspective on some of the main players. Despite his numerous swipes at Traditionalists (of which I am one), I could not stop listening. And despite the blistering attacks levelled at Douthat by Catholic conservatives, I found his conclusions to be relatively optimistic. My major disagreement with him lies in the contrasts he draws between JPII, Benedict, and Francis. The differences are style---not substance, as I am convinced that the root cause of most of the current problems in the Church is Vatican II. Despite Francis' outlandish and frequently heretical pronouncements, his pontificate is the direct outgrowth of (and totally consistent with) Vatican II.
Although I frequently nit pik narrators who are guilty of errors in pronunciation, none have even come close to the egregious number contained in this recording. I an surprised that a journalist from the New York Times would not have done a better job of screening the narrator of such an important work. It was truly painful to hear him mutilate so many commonplace words---by far the worst I have heard in the hundreds of books to which I've listened.
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- Patricia M. O'Neil
- 05-28-18
Fascinating!
Ross Douthat’s analysis of the papacy under Pope Francis is extremely well balanced and informative. He exhibits a good grasp of Church history. The book is honest, insightful and well written. I thoroughly enjoyed it!
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- Minerva Venuti
- 04-19-18
Important book, horrible narrator
Douthat's thoughts on the Church of 2018 are original and important. Unfortunately a narrator who is completely unfamiliar with ecclesiastical language was chosen. I lost count of the misspronouced words. It's was distracting and infuriating.
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- Pirie
- 09-16-18
Narrator needs remedial training.
It was frustrating to listen to a narrator who does not know the distinction between pronunciations of the word “the“. When the word “the” appears before another word that begins with a vowel the pronunciation is “THEE”. The narrator would pronounce it that way in front of words that begin with consonants. You can imagine how frustrating it is to hear “the car“ pronounced “thee car“.
Get this man some training!
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- A. Moran
- 06-26-18
insightful
This book captures the issues at stake in Pope Francis' actions and writings. some mispronounced words but otherwise well read
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- Mark Grannis
- 05-07-18
Hammer, meet nail
Aspiring writers should heed this lesson in the perils of writing opinions for a living. This book imparts almost no information apart from rumor and no understanding apart from its author’s. If you happen to be interested in Douthat’s understanding of Catholic theology, though, this book is for you.
I gave the book two stars only so that I could give the narrator just one. I don’t think he’s ever read much Catholic writing.
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