We Don't Know Ourselves
A Personal History of Modern Ireland
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Aidan Kelly
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Fintan O'Toole
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In We Don't Know Ourselves, Fintan O'Toole weaves his own experiences into Irish social, cultural, and economic change, showing how Ireland, in just one lifetime, has gone from a reactionary "backwater" to an almost totally open society - perhaps the most astonishing national transformation in modern history.
Born to a working-class family in the Dublin suburbs, O'Toole served as an altar boy and attended a Christian Brothers school. He was enthralled by American Westerns suddenly appearing on Irish television, which were not that far from his own experience, given that Ireland's main export was beef and it was still not unknown for herds of cattle to clatter down Dublin's streets. Yet the Westerns were a sign of what was to come.
O'Toole narrates the once unthinkable collapse of the all-powerful Catholic Church, brought down by scandal and by the activism of ordinary Irish, women in particular. He relates the horrific violence of the Troubles in Northern Ireland, which led most Irish to reject violent nationalism. In O'Toole's telling, America became a lodestar, from John F. Kennedy's 1963 visit, when the American president was welcomed as a native son, to the emergence of the Irish technology sector in the late 1990s, driven by American corporations, which set Ireland on the path toward particular disaster during the 2008 financial crisis.
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David Shipler delves into the origins of the prejudices of Jews and Arabs that have been intensified by war, terrorism, and nationalism. Focusing on the diverse cultures that exist side by side in Israel and Israeli-controlled territories, Shipler examines the process of indoctrination that begins in schools; he discusses the far ranging effects of socioeconomic differences, historical conflicts between Islam and Judaism, attitudes about the Holocaust, and much more.
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'Arab and Jew' Needs a Good Editor
- By Robert W. Gillespie on 10-23-03
By: David K. Shipler
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Eva Peron
- By: Nicholas Fraser, Marysa Navarro
- Narrated by: Wanda McCaddon
- Length: 9 hrs and 2 mins
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The story begins in a dusty village lost in the Argentine pampas, where a girl, born out of wedlock, scrambles her way to the capital city by the time she is 15. It ends with the embalmed corpse of Eva Perõn being hidden away by nervous politicians for fear that if the working people of Argentina knew where it was buried, it would inspire them to revolution.
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Well written and researched, and very interesting.
- By Dolce Momento on 10-19-24
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The Almost Nearly Perfect People
- Behind the Myth of the Scandinavian Utopia
- By: Michael Booth
- Narrated by: Ralph Lister
- Length: 13 hrs and 15 mins
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Journalist Michael Booth has lived among the Scandinavians for more than 10 years, and he has grown increasingly frustrated with the rose-tinted view of this part of the world offered up by the Western media. In this timely audiobook, he leaves his adopted home of Denmark and embarks on a journey through all five of the Nordic countries to discover who these curious tribes are, the secrets of their success, and, most intriguing of all, what they think of one another.
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Obsessed with bad politics
- By Erik on 09-07-20
By: Michael Booth
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Age of Ambition
- Chasing Fortune, Truth, and Faith in the New China
- By: Evan Osnos
- Narrated by: Evan Osnos, George Backman
- Length: 16 hrs and 41 mins
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As the Beijing correspondent for The New Yorker, Evan Osnos was on the ground in China for years, witness to profound political, economic, and cultural upheaval. In Age of Ambition, he describes the greatest collision taking place in that country: the clash between the rise of the individual and the Communist Party’s struggle to retain control.
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Come back when you have a warrant!
- By Neuron on 11-06-15
By: Evan Osnos
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Bending Adversity
- Japan and the Art of Survival
- By: David Pilling
- Narrated by: Tim Andes Pabon
- Length: 14 hrs and 49 mins
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In Bending Adversity, Financial Times Asia editor David Pilling presents a fresh vision of Japan, drawing on his own deep experience, as well as observations from a cross section of Japanese citizenry, including novelist Haruki Murakami, former prime minister Junichiro Koizumi, industrialists and bankers, activists and artists, teenagers and octogenarians. Through their voices, Pilling captures the dynamism and diversity of contemporary Japan.
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Good book, but terribly read
- By Kallan Resnick on 10-24-14
By: David Pilling
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A History of Modern Britain
- By: Andrew Marr
- Narrated by: David Timson
- Length: 29 hrs and 59 mins
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A History of Modern Britain confronts head-on the victory of shopping over politics. It tells the story of how the great political visions of New Jerusalem or a second Elizabethan Age, rival idealisms, came to be defeated by a culture of consumerism, celebrity and self-gratification. In each decade political leaders think they know what they are doing but find themselves confounded. Every time the British people turn out to be stroppier and harder to herd than predicted.
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Masterful in focus, pace, content, performance
- By Philo on 11-10-16
By: Andrew Marr
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Indelible City
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- By: Louisa Lim
- Narrated by: Louisa Lim
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The story of Hong Kong has long been dominated by competing myths: to Britain, a “barren rock” with no appreciable history; to China, a part of Chinese soil from time immemorial, at last returned to the ancestral fold. For decades, Hong Kong’s history was simply not taught, especially to Hong Kongers, obscuring its origins as a place of refuge and rebellion.
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Visceral History
- By Amazon Customer on 11-21-23
By: Louisa Lim
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The Long Hangover
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- By: Shaun Walker
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In The Long Hangover, Shaun Walker provides new insight into contemporary Russia and its search for a new identity, telling the story through the country's troubled relationship with its Soviet past. Walker not only explains Vladimir Putin's goals and the government's official manipulations of history, but also focuses on ordinary Russians and their motivations. He charts how Putin raised victory in World War II to the status of a national founding myth in the search for a unifying force to heal a divided country, and shows how dangerous the ramifications of this have been.
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Fascinating and fair book on Putin's Russia
- By MyPublicName on 02-16-18
By: Shaun Walker
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Lenin
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- By: Victor Sebestyen
- Narrated by: Jonathan Aris
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Drawing on new research, including the diaries, memoirs, and personal letters of both Lenin and his friends, Victor Sebestyen's unique biography - the first in English in nearly two decades - is not only a political examination of one of the most important historical figures of the 20th century but a portrait of Lenin the man. Unexpectedly, Lenin was someone who loved nature, hunting, and fishing and could identify hundreds of species of plants, a despotic ruler whose closest ties and friendships were with women.
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Lenin totally took an extra piece of that cake.
- By John Gathly on 05-14-19
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Aftermath
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- By: Harald Jähner, Shaun Whiteside - translator
- Narrated by: Rob Shapiro
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How does a nation recover from fascism and turn toward a free society once more? This internationally acclaimed revelatory history of the transformational decade that followed World War II illustrates how Germany raised itself out of the ashes of defeat and reckoned with the corruption of its soul and the horrors of the Holocaust - and features over 40 eye-opening black-and-white photographs and posters from the period.
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Where are the photos?
- By Cassandra on 01-17-22
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Light and Shadow
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- By: Mark Colvin
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Mark Colvin is a broadcasting legend. He is the voice of ABC Radio’s leading current affairs program PM; he was a founding broadcaster for the groundbreaking youth station Double J; he initiated The World Today program; and he’s one of the most popular and influential journalists in the twittersphere. Mark has been covering local and global events for more than four decades. He has reported on wars, royal weddings and everything in between. In the midst of all this he discovered that his father was an MI6 spy.
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Probably of most interest to Australian readers
- By Robyn on 04-12-17
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We Wish to Inform You That Tomorrow We Will Be Killed with Our Families
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An unforgettable firsthand account of a people's response to genocide and what it tells us about humanity. This remarkable audiobook chronicles what has happened in Rwanda and neighboring states since 1994, when the Rwandan government called on everyone in the Hutu majority to murder everyone in the Tutsi minority.
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Things you'd never imagine
- By LEE on 12-27-19
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Exceptional Audiobook
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From battling oppression and famine in Ireland to overcoming poverty and discrimination in America, we Irish gained our fightin' moniker by standing up for our rights and earning the respect we deserve. Now, the amazing feats, astounding people and incredible facts in this fascinating book of Irish trivia will make you proudly say, “F*ck you, I'm Irish”.
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Did you know that a poet named William Drennan was the first to name Ireland the “Emerald Island”? He was referring to the green hills of Ireland’s countryside in his poem “When Erin first rose”. The countryside is what defines Ireland probably the best since, for a long time, it played a major role in the economy and culture of the nation.
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- Kindle Customer
- 09-15-22
A beautifully written and compellingly told story
This history weaves personal memories and experiences with shocking details of Ireland's turbulent journey since 1958. The author spares no one of the many people most responsible for the corruption of the church and state so eloquently documented here. And the perfect match of the reader's voice and accent makes this an exceptionally enlightening, and enjoyable, experience.
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- Sarah Reid
- 12-12-22
Personal and Social History Intertwined
Fintan’s done a remarkable job of telling the story of modern Island by using his own personal recollections as the foil for a much larger story. In small chunks, he explains Ireland’s transformation from a rural, protectionist country controlled by the Catholic Church through the move into the EU, the Troubles and Peace Process, the FDI that led to the Celtic Tiger, and the excesses of 2008. He touches on every major event in a way that is informative and exciting. It’s a must read for anyone with an interest in the real Island and the duality at its core.
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- David
- 01-26-23
We’ll writing and well delivered
Really enjoyed this book, it covers the last 100 years of Irish history, going deep into familiar events but also recalling a lot of things that seemed to have been forgotten.
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- Casey
- 02-26-23
Great reading of a very good book
The reading clarifies what words are quotes without leaning on thespian accents—especially important in well-reported yet personal nonfiction like this.
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- murph
- 12-20-22
Love of the Irish
Sad. Enlightening. And humorous. I am Irish and loved the recap of a beautiful place in my life.
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- Elle
- 03-15-23
Informative, negative, repetitive
Fascinating, well-researched social, religious, and political history of Ireland from the 1950s onward. BUT, as others have noted, unrelentingly negative until perhaps the last chapter, with the exception of the discussion of the 1998 Good Friday Accord.
And repetitive. It was a slog to get through the last 25-30%. I wanted to shout: Got it, we know how awful the Catholic Church was and how corrupt the political leaders were. Got it.
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- Kindle Customer
- 08-12-22
Wonderful
I was one of those who emigrated to the US in the 80s. I was in my 20s. This book is the story of my youth. Absolutely wonderful. I want to listen to it all over again
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- DFK
- 06-09-23
Super prep for my trip to Ireland
I had put this on my wish list and then bought it after reading the review in The New York Times, before I knew I’d be traveling to Ireland. Once I had travel plans, I decided it is a great time to listen to this book. Indeed, I’m sure listening to this will help me appreciate what I experience there (I plan on traveling the trains and visiting not just Dublin, and also going to Belfast). This book is very compelling and fascinating (don’t pay attention to those reviewers who did not enjoy the detail - the detail is important for the understanding of the significance of certain events and developments). I wasn’t totally ignorant of this history (and relatively current events in the latter chapters), but this book has definitely increased my knowledge and awareness. At first I just thought the narrator was OK, but by the time the book concluded, I realized he did a very fine job, and was able to express the indignation that much of what is told deserves. I highly recommend this book.
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- angelaz
- 10-22-22
truly spectacular
What a wonderful listen —reader was terrific and did real justice to O’Toole’s witty and moving account of Ireland’s amazing changes during his lifetime. Highly recommend it!
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- John Harvey
- 08-03-22
Absolutely brilliant
Beautifully written, poignant, sad, and hopeful. I'm sorry the book is done and I'm not sure where to go from here that won't be a let down.
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