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White Lies
- Nine Ways to Expose and Resist the Racial Systems That Divide Us
- Narrated by: Mark Smeby
- Length: 7 hrs and 27 mins
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What can you do to be a force for racial justice?
Many White Christians are eager to fight against racism and for racial justice. But what steps can they take to make good, lasting change? How can they get involved without unintentionally doing more harm than good?
In this practical and illuminating guide drawn from more than 20 years of cross-cultural work and learning from some of the greatest leaders of color, pastor and racial justice advocate Daniel Hill provides nine practices rooted in Scripture that will position you to be an active supporter of inclusion, equality, and racial justice.
With stories, studies, and examples from his own journey, Hill will show you:
- How to get free of the impact of White supremacy individually and recognize that it works systemically
- How to talk about race in an intelligent and respectful way
- How to recognize which strategies are helpful and which are harmful
- What you can do to make a difference every day, after protests and major events
We cannot experience wholistic justice without confronting and dismantling White supremacy. But as we follow Jesus - the one who is supreme over all things - into overturning false power systems, we will become better advocates of the liberating and unconditional love that God extends to us all.
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What is the way forward for the church? Tragically, in recent years, Christians have gotten used to revelations of abuses of many kinds in our most respected churches―from Willow Creek to Harvest, from Southern Baptist pastors to Sovereign Grace churches. Respected author and theologian Scot McKnight and former Willow Creek member Laura Barringer wrote this book to paint a pathway forward for the church.
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Mostly good, but has a major issue
- By T.J. on 11-30-21
By: Scot McKnight, and others
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A New Kind of Christianity
- Ten Questions That Are Transforming the Faith
- By: Brian D. McLaren
- Narrated by: Sean Pratt
- Length: 11 hrs and 10 mins
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We are in the midst of a paradigm shift in the church. Not since the Reformation five centuries ago have so many Christians come together to ask whether the church is in sync with their deepest beliefs and commitments. These believers range from evangelicals to mainline Protestants to Catholics, and the person who best represents them is author and pastor Brian McLaren. In this much anticipated book, McLaren examines ten questions facing today's church - questions about how to articulate the faith itself, the nature of its authority, who God is....
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Clear, Careful, Considerate Confrontation
- By Celia on 09-10-12
By: Brian D. McLaren
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Emotionally Healthy Discipleship
- Moving from Shallow Christianity to Deep Transformation
- By: Peter Scazzero
- Narrated by: Peter Scazzero
- Length: 8 hrs and 27 mins
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In Emotionally Healthy Discipleship, best-selling author Pete Scazzero combines three decades of wisdom with hard lessons from his own ministry journey. He lays out what is required for church leaders to multiply deeply changed people who are growing in relationship with God, themselves, and others. Scazzero begins with four beneath-the-surface, systemic gaps that undermine serious discipleship. He provides a clear vision for a church culture that deeply changes lives and then practically unpacks the seven biblical marks of emotionally healthy discipleship.
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New Work
- By Daniel on 06-30-21
By: Peter Scazzero
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The Way to Heaven
- The Gospel According to John Wesley
- By: Steve Harper
- Narrated by: Maurice England
- Length: 3 hrs and 45 mins
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The heart of this book is a thoughtful and inspiring look at Wesley's theology of grace and its power to transform. Included are two new chapters. 'Vision and Means' explores Wesley's mission and methods, and 'To Serve the Present Age' considers the impact and relevance of his message today. In addition, an updated reading list facilitates further study, and questions at the end of each chapter stimulate personal reflection and small group discussion.Ideal as a textbook or for personal study and reflection, this book will advance your knowledge and piety as you travel 'the way to heaven.
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- By jride on 11-18-16
By: Steve Harper
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America's Original Sin
- Racism, White Privilege, and the Bridge to a New America
- By: Jim Wallis
- Narrated by: Patrick Lawlor
- Length: 10 hrs and 10 mins
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America's problem with race has deep roots, with the country's foundation tied to the near extermination of one race of people and the enslavement of another. Racism is truly our nation's original sin. "It's time we right this unacceptable wrong", says best-selling author and leading Christian activist Jim Wallis. Fifty years ago, Wallis was driven away from his faith by a white church that considered dealing with racism to be taboo.
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Important book, but narrator was an amateur
- By RevReader on 06-01-18
By: Jim Wallis
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Stay Salt
- The World Has Changed: Our Message Must Not
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The world has changed in so many ways, and many of us no longer feel confident when it comes to evangelism, especially with the rise of hostility toward Christian points of view. Keeping quiet is becoming our default position. Yet the world has not changed in one way: It still needs Jesus. Renowned evangelist Becky Pippert draws on decades of conversations about Christianity around the world to call and equip ordinary Christians to share Jesus through their ordinary day-to-day conversations.
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Best book on relational evangelism I’ve read
- By Mike on 07-08-20
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The Heart of Christianity
- Rediscovering a Life of Faith
- By: Marcus J. Borg
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World-renowned Jesus scholar Marcus J. Borg shows how we can live passionately as Christians in today's world by practicing the vital elements of Christian faith. For the millions of people who have turned away from many traditional beliefs about God, Jesus, and the Bible, but still long for a relevant, nourishing faith, Borg shows why the Christian life can remain a transforming relationship with God. Emphasizing the critical role of daily practice in living the Christian life, he explores how prayer, worship, Sabbath, pilgrimage, and more can be experienced as authentically life-giving practices.
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book worth rediscovering for both head and heart
- By connie on 06-30-12
By: Marcus J. Borg
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Good Without God
- What a Billion Nonreligious People Do Believe
- By: Greg Epstein
- Narrated by: David Marantz
- Length: 10 hrs and 31 mins
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A provocative and positive response to Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, and other New Atheists, Good Without God makes a bold claim for what nonbelievers do share and believe. Epstein's Good Without God provides a constructive, challenging response to these manifestos by getting to the heart of Humanism and its positive belief in tolerance, community, morality, and good without having to rely on the guidance of a higher being.
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Speaker sounds too robotic
- By Lisa S. on 08-27-21
By: Greg Epstein
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The Next Christians
- The Good News About the End of Christian America
- By: Gabe Lyons
- Narrated by: Gabe Lyons
- Length: 4 hrs and 55 mins
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Turn on a cable news show or pick up any news magazine, and you get the impression that Christian America is on its last leg. The once dominant faith is now facing rapidly declining church attendance, waning political influence, and an abysmal public perception. More than 76% of Americans self-identify as Christians, but many today are ashamed to carry the label. While many Christians are bemoaning their faith’s decline, Gabe Lyons is optimistic that Christianity’s best days are yet to come.
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Optimistic about the church
- By Ellen Gilmartin on 09-12-24
By: Gabe Lyons
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The Thrill of Orthodoxy
- Rediscovering the Adventure of Christian Faith
- By: Trevin Wax
- Narrated by: Trevin Wax
- Length: 6 hrs and 49 mins
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Every generation faces the temptation to wander from orthodoxy—to seek out the jolt that comes with false teaching, and to drift with cultural currents. And so every generation must be awakened again to the thrill of orthodoxy, and experience the astonishment that comes from stumbling afresh upon the electrifying paradoxes at the heart of the Christian faith. In The Thrill of Orthodoxy, Trevin Wax turns the tables on those who believe Christian teaching is narrow and outdated.
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Obviously biased
- By Jamie on 05-14-24
By: Trevin Wax
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The Myth of a Christian Religion
- How Believers Must Rebel to Advance the Kingdom of God
- By: Gregory A. Boyd
- Narrated by: Art Carlson
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In this sequel to his best seller, The Myth of a Christian Nation, Dr. Gregory Boyd issues a clear call to manifest God’s beauty and revolt against evil—with Jesus’ life as our example. Passionate theology and practical insight combine to create a guidebook for simple, radical, Christlike living.
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A great sequel
- By Jim H. on 01-05-22
By: Gregory A. Boyd
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Asking Better Questions of the Bible
- A Guide for the Wounded, Wary, and Longing for More
- By: Marty Solomon
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- Length: 4 hrs and 33 mins
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Too often when we come to the Bible, we settle for easy answers.
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Excellent Book
- By Jon Yoch on 11-02-24
By: Marty Solomon
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- C moore
- 11-04-20
EXCELLENT
Thank God for Pastor Hill and his family for embracing God’s grace and understanding our Heavenly Father’s heart towards His creation and His body. Any belief, attitude, or system/institution that stands in opposition to ALL MEN/WOMEN being created in the image and likeness of God is demonic and needs to be actively torn down!!!
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- Thomas H Stapleton
- 08-15-21
Better understanding of my whiteness.
Listen to White Awake first. The content is challenging, but absolutely necessary. Thanks to Daniel and these two books my understanding and ability to navigate race productively has grown exponentially.
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- Adam Shields
- 12-14-20
The church needs to confront white supremacy
As with Rediscipling the White Church I have a somewhat ambivalent approach to reading Daniel Hill. He is an excellent writer, and I really do appreciate what he writes. But I am also reminded that part of why he is needed to voice racial justice is part of his subject matter. In his first book, White Awake, his voice is needed because so many White Christians are resistant to hearing about issues around racism and White racial identity from non-White voices. And the book White Lies is needed because simple exposure to diversity does not actually root out white superiority problems (a euphemism for white supremacy as a cultural system) within the church without it directly being addressed. I am ambivalent, not because his voice is not useful (and certainly not because he isn't a skilled writer or thinker), but because White voices like his are necessary because of the very nature of White belief in the superiority of White culture, which requires White voices to condemn White superiority for White people to be able to hear the problem.
I think it is important to use clear language and say that no one within the United States culture is not impacted by racism. I, as an individual, have feelings of White superiority. While I want to work against those feelings and to work to make sure those are never translated into actions, it is why I regularly point back to George Yancy's language, "the best that I can be is an anti-racist racist", and as a male, "an anti-sexist sexist." And as a Christian, an anti-sin sinner. Because we are not solely individuals, but within a culture and community, regardless of my own attitudes, biases, thoughts, and actions, I cannot control how others respond to me. When I, as a stay-at-home Dad, take my kids to the grocery store (in pre-covid times), the response to me as a parent is different than the average response to a stay-at-home mother who is doing the same thing. I am routinely praised for being a good Dad for doing simple tasks that every mother also does without praise. When I walk around a store, the lack of undue attention because I am a middle-aged White male is not a result of anything I have done, but because of cultural assumptions and realities. But my lack of desire to be racist or sexist has nothing to do with the reality that I still receive benefits whether I want them or not.
I have sat around not writing this review for about two weeks now. I have recommended the book to several. But I have not been sure how to write about it. White Lies is excellent. Daniel Hill's writing is clear, helpful, direct, gentle, and deeply Christian. I mostly listened to the audiobook. After a bad storm, I had several days of cleaning up brush and cutting up fallen trees at my mother in law's cabin. I have both the kindle and audiobook synced together so that I could highlight and sometimes make notes. But this is still a book I should probably read again.
White Lies is pitched toward the White Christian that is racially aware, those that "read the right articles, study the right history books, listen to the right podcasts." It is a follow up to White Awake, which was pitched to those in the initial stages of understanding of White racial identity. It is pitched toward those who already have Black friends, maybe go to a multi-ethnic church, or live in a not all-White neighborhood. It is pitched toward people that think they are fairly safe or are good White people. And as I keep hearing and seeing repercussions, these people are most dangerous and harmful to the Black, Brown, and Indigenous people of color (BBIPOC) around them (to use the current en vogue phrase). It is a Christian version of the same group that Robin DiAngelo's White Fragility and George Yancy's Backlash were written for. And frankly, it is this group that both embraces Critical Race Theory and is why it was needed to be developed. Because proximity, and continued ignorance, allows for the ability to commit the most harm.
When Daniel Hill talks about white lies, he is talking about 'being woke' but believing in a fantasy version of 'wokeness' that is prideful in what they have accomplished and views their status as 'having arrived.' They think they were invited to the Barbeque based on their own merit and not based on their friends' grace. The 'she' in the following quote is a veteran White leader in racial issues that Daniel Hill knows.
"She explained that a lot of White folks begin their journey with a clear admission that the system of race is something they typically haven’t thought about and still don’t understand well. But she notices something that happens along the way, specifically for White leaders who are actively searching for ways to participate in solutions to race-based problems. Whereas they used to center voices of people of color in their initial process, they start to shift toward a centering of their own thoughts and ideas. And whereas they used to demonstrate a healthy dependence on people of color to tutor them from lived experience, they start to long for an independence that no longer requires this ongoing mentorship. She sees this desire as a direct symptom of wokeness. The more woke that White leaders deem themselves to be, the more likely they are to see themselves as fit to lead efforts directed toward race in an independent fashion, disconnected from critical feedback on their approaches or theories of change. (page 26)"
When Daniel Hill says, 'stop being woke,' he calls us to a spiritual practice of humility. That humility needs to be tied not just to personal repentance (although that is a spiritual practice that is focused on toward the end of the book) but also an awareness of systemic reality and a desire to work (in cooperation) toward changing those systems.
One of the most discouraging things I read in White Lies is that not only are many White people not changed by proximity to other Christians of color (which didn't surprise me), it was that Christians of color are more likely to be changed to be less attentive to systemic realities.
“The typical African American outside of the multiracial congregation is fairly aware that there are structural issues in place that continue to perpetuate inequality . . . But African Americans within multiracial churches don’t report that same level of structural awareness.” Dougherty then summarized the findings of the study in a single, haunting sentence: “Instead of the predominantly white majority changing its views, it appears that African Americans start to think more like whites about the origins of inequality.” (p 73)
I will not summarize the book or walk through the lies and the corresponding spiritual practices that Daniel Hill proscribes. Instead, I will close with a long quote that I think best summarizes the need for the book and for clearly addressing the system of lies that forms white supremacy.
"And this is precisely where I see an undeniable connection between the supernatural reality of evil and the social problem of White supremacy. As we explored in both chapters 3 and 4, White supremacy is built on a set of lies about human value. The narrative of racial hierarchy, which is the operating system of White supremacy, is really not much more than one ongoing lie. It is a lie that attempts to deceive and harm people of every background, telling them their value is directly tied to their racial background and not to their divine birthright. The narrative lies to White people, and says they are inherently superior because they have been placed at the top of the hierarchy. It lies to Black people and says they are inherently inferior because they have been placed at the bottom of the hierarchy. It lies to Native people and says they no longer matter and are forever irrelevant within race conversations. It lies to Latino and Latina people, Asian American people, and Middle Eastern people and tells them they can only hope to achieve worthiness by getting proximate to Whiteness. When an individual agrees with the lie of the narrative, this is already a matter of obvious danger. But what happens when it is no longer just an individual who agrees with that lie? How much more powerful does the lie become when it is agreed with by an entire family? Do you see how quickly the power increases when it begins to become a cluster of lies? And then what happens when it is not just a family that agrees with the lie of the narrative, but a whole community agrees with it? What happens when a whole city agrees with it? What happens when a whole nation agrees with it? Do you see how and why the lies that sustain White supremacy become the devil’s breeding ground? Do you see why the father of lies would be so keenly interested in the narrative of racial hierarchy? Can you see how and why White supremacy has become a well-guarded, well-sustained principality of darkness? This is what we’re getting at when we talk about White lies. This swarm of lies around human value has infected the very air we breathe. We cannot live or move in this atmosphere without inhaling these lies. We must, therefore, contend with these White lies." (p 120)
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- Edward Bryant
- 11-01-20
Confronting white supremacy within Christianity
This book is a very helpful tutorial on how to address white supremacy, especially within major white and Christian contexts.
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- Amazon Customer
- 04-28-21
purely awesome!
This is such a powerful and insightful piece! I love how Daniel uses a sound biblical basis to establish the need to stand against the many lies that white supremacy has constructed! Powerful and enlightening, I love his use of metaphors to start the book. This is a must read for all, especially in the white evangelical church!
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- Dr Ag
- 08-01-22
Honest believers should study this resource
Rev D H has done a remarkable God-inspired work in this book that should enlighten, encourage and free anyone claiming to know or be a follower of God / scriptures in America. “And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you (free) see”!!
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