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Rediscipling the White Church
- From Cheap Diversity to True Solidarity
- Narrated by: Mike Chamberlain
- Length: 7 hrs and 44 mins
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Publisher's summary
"Many white Christians across America are waking up to the fact that something is seriously wrong - but often this is where we get stuck."
Confronted by the deep-rooted racial injustice in our society, many white Christians instinctively scramble to add diversity to their churches and ministries. But is diversity really the answer to the widespread racial dysfunction we see in the church?
In this simple but powerful book, Pastor David Swanson contends that discipleship, not diversity, lies at the heart of our white churches' racial brokenness. Before white churches can pursue diversity, he argues, we must first take steps to address the faulty discipleship that has led to our segregation in the first place. Drawing on the work of philosopher James K. A. Smith and others, Swanson proposes that we rethink our churches' habits, or liturgies, and imagine together holistic, communal discipleship practices that can reform us as members of Christ's diverse body.
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Mostly good, but has a major issue
- By T.J. on 11-30-21
By: Scot McKnight, and others
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Dream with Me
- Race, Love, and the Struggle We Must Win
- By: John M. Perkins, Randy Alcorn - foreword
- Narrated by: Calvin Robinson
- Length: 6 hrs and 20 mins
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A trailblazer in the civil rights movement, John M. Perkins led voter registration efforts in 1964, worked for school desegregation in 1967, and was jailed and tortured in 1970. He is no less zealous today as he sees a new generation of freedom fighters battling the same issues and the same systems he has spent his life working to correct.
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Thoughts from a Christian elder
- By Adam Shields on 03-02-17
By: John M. Perkins, and others
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The Unsaved Christian
- Reaching Cultural Christians with the Gospel
- By: Dean Inserra
- Narrated by: Tim Lundeen
- Length: 5 hrs and 19 mins
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What to do when they say they’re Christian but don’t know Jesus. Whether it’s the Christmas and Easter Christians or the faithful church attenders whose hearts are cold toward the Lord, we’ve all encountered cultural Christians. They’d check the Christian box on a survey, they’re fine with church, but the truth is, they’re far from God. So how do we bring Jesus to this overlooked mission field? The Unsaved Christian equips you to confront cultural Christianity with honesty, compassion, and grace, whether you’re doing it from the pulpit or the pews.
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Me. Me. Me! That was me! I thought I was a Christian...
- By Nana B on 04-23-19
By: Dean Inserra
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America's Original Sin
- Racism, White Privilege, and the Bridge to a New America
- By: Jim Wallis
- Narrated by: Patrick Lawlor
- Length: 10 hrs and 10 mins
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America's problem with race has deep roots, with the country's foundation tied to the near extermination of one race of people and the enslavement of another. Racism is truly our nation's original sin. "It's time we right this unacceptable wrong", says best-selling author and leading Christian activist Jim Wallis. Fifty years ago, Wallis was driven away from his faith by a white church that considered dealing with racism to be taboo.
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Important book, but narrator was an amateur
- By RevReader on 06-01-18
By: Jim Wallis
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The Next Christians
- The Good News About the End of Christian America
- By: Gabe Lyons
- Narrated by: Gabe Lyons
- Length: 4 hrs and 55 mins
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Turn on a cable news show or pick up any news magazine, and you get the impression that Christian America is on its last leg. The once dominant faith is now facing rapidly declining church attendance, waning political influence, and an abysmal public perception. More than 76% of Americans self-identify as Christians, but many today are ashamed to carry the label. While many Christians are bemoaning their faith’s decline, Gabe Lyons is optimistic that Christianity’s best days are yet to come.
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Optimistic about the church
- By Ellen Gilmartin on 09-12-24
By: Gabe Lyons
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Reconstructing the Gospel
- Finding Freedom from Slaveholder Religion
- By: Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove
- Narrated by: Lloyd James
- Length: 5 hrs and 12 mins
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Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove grew up in the Bible Belt in the American South as a faithful church-going Christian. But he gradually came to realize that the gospel his Christianity proclaimed was not good news for everybody. The same Christianity that sang, "Amazing grace, how sweet the sound" also perpetuated racial injustice and white supremacy in the name of Jesus. His Christianity, he discovered, was the religion of the slaveholder. Just as Reconstruction after the Civil War worked to repair a desperately broken society, compromised Christianity requires a spiritual reconstruction.
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Disappointing.
- By Elgin Bailey on 04-01-18
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Confronting Injustice Without Compromising Truth
- 12 Questions Christians Should Ask About Social Justice
- By: Thaddeus J. Williams, John M. Perkins - foreword
- Narrated by: Thaddeus J. Williams, full cast
- Length: 10 hrs and 12 mins
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Drawing from a diverse range of theologians, sociologists, artists, and activists, Confronting Injustice Without Compromising Truth, by Thaddeus Williams, makes the case that we must be discerning if we are to "truly execute justice" as Scripture commands. Not everything called "social justice" today is compatible with a biblical vision of a better world. The Bible offers hopeful and distinctive answers to deep questions of worship, community, salvation, and knowledge that ought to mark a uniquely Christian pursuit of justice.
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Not Injustice - Conservative Justification
- By Peter on 07-06-21
By: Thaddeus J. Williams, and others
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Do All Lives Matter?
- The Issue We Can No Longer Ignore and Solutions We Long For
- By: Wayne Gordon, John M. Perkins
- Narrated by: Calvin Robinson
- Length: 2 hrs and 4 mins
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The belief that all lives matter is at the heart of our founding documents - but we must admit that this conviction has never truly reflected reality in America. Movements such as Black Lives Matter have arisen in response to recent displays of violence and mistreatment, and some of us defensively answer back, "All lives matter". But do they? Really? This audiobook is an exploration of that question.
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Enlightening
- By karleen on 06-26-20
By: Wayne Gordon, and others
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The Myth of a Christian Religion
- How Believers Must Rebel to Advance the Kingdom of God
- By: Gregory A. Boyd
- Narrated by: Art Carlson
- Length: 6 hrs and 38 mins
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In this sequel to his best seller, The Myth of a Christian Nation, Dr. Gregory Boyd issues a clear call to manifest God’s beauty and revolt against evil—with Jesus’ life as our example. Passionate theology and practical insight combine to create a guidebook for simple, radical, Christlike living.
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A great sequel
- By Jim H. on 01-05-22
By: Gregory A. Boyd
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The Heart of Christianity
- Rediscovering a Life of Faith
- By: Marcus J. Borg
- Narrated by: John Pruden
- Length: 7 hrs and 59 mins
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World-renowned Jesus scholar Marcus J. Borg shows how we can live passionately as Christians in today's world by practicing the vital elements of Christian faith. For the millions of people who have turned away from many traditional beliefs about God, Jesus, and the Bible, but still long for a relevant, nourishing faith, Borg shows why the Christian life can remain a transforming relationship with God. Emphasizing the critical role of daily practice in living the Christian life, he explores how prayer, worship, Sabbath, pilgrimage, and more can be experienced as authentically life-giving practices.
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book worth rediscovering for both head and heart
- By connie on 06-30-12
By: Marcus J. Borg
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Stay Salt
- The World Has Changed: Our Message Must Not
- By: Rebecca Manley Pippert
- Narrated by: Sarah Zimmerman
- Length: 6 hrs and 59 mins
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The world has changed in so many ways, and many of us no longer feel confident when it comes to evangelism, especially with the rise of hostility toward Christian points of view. Keeping quiet is becoming our default position. Yet the world has not changed in one way: It still needs Jesus. Renowned evangelist Becky Pippert draws on decades of conversations about Christianity around the world to call and equip ordinary Christians to share Jesus through their ordinary day-to-day conversations.
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Best book on relational evangelism I’ve read
- By Mike on 07-08-20
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- Mlbwilliams
- 03-10-22
Excellent read! Should be required reading for white people seeking to do ministry
This book says all the things out loud most white pastors are unwilling to say. Our silence as Christians and Sunday morning segregation- black and white- only continues to perpetuate the situation and the author offers solutions to rectify this in a genuine way.
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- JAS
- 05-16-21
Needed Resource
This book opens doors to a new generation of thought leaders that are tackling issues of racism. David Swanson provides a new vision of how discipleship should be applied in the White Christian church. With that, the needle is pushed forward in the fight for progress in the US.
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- Adam Shields
- 09-04-20
Focus on solidarity
Among those interested in racial justice, there is significant interest in how to help people become interested in racial justice. I frequently have used the metaphor of evangelism both because there is a sense of a message being that is necessary, and there is some sense of the Holy Spirit awakening the person to be open to that message.
David Swanson’s main focus in Rediscipling the White Church is discipleship, not evangelism. Somewhat similar to my own interested in racial justice and spiritual direction (a method of discipleship) evolving in parallel, Swanson is emphasizing that the way to correct a distorted church is an emphasis on correct discipleship.
"Dallas Willard claims that a disciple is, most basically, an apprentice “who has decided to be with another person, under appropriate conditions, in order to become capable of doing what that person does or to become what that person is.” While there is more that could be said about what a disciple is, for our purposes a Christian disciple follows Jesus to become like him and to do what he does."
Swanson is building on the work of Dallas Williard, James KA Smith, and others that remind us that discipleship is not about intellectual knowledge acquisition, but building habits.
"Building on Augustine’s understanding of people as desiring creatures, philosopher James K. A. Smith writes that it’s our habits that “incline us to act in certain ways without having to kick into a mode of reflection.”7 Remember my implicit bias at the beginning of the chapter? Because we are not first and foremost thinking beings who rationally engage with every encounter, it is our habits which shape our imaginations or, in Augustine’s vocabulary, our loves. My unconscious assumption about who wrecked my cement was inculcated in me through a set of racially oriented habits. We aren’t usually aware of our habits."
The central point of the book is that Swanson wants to transform the goal of discipleship around racial justice is solidarity (regardless of how visually diverse a congregation is) and not some abstracted racial reconciliation or unity.
"Of all the ways we have been damaged by whiteness, I believe the most significant is the chasm we have opened between ourselves and people of color, other image-bearers of the living God. Rather than listening to our neighbors’ stories of the harm inflicted on their communities by race, we often explain away their experiences. We appeal to our own racial enlightenment as proof that we are not racists and thus bear no responsibility for the harm done to our neighbors by a racialized society. Worse, sometimes we don’t even believe our neighbors and friends of color when they explain what it’s like to live beyond the boundaries of whiteness. “There is a long history,” writes Drew G. I. Hart, “going all the way back to slavery, of white Americans not trusting black perspectives as truthful.” The regularity with which white conversation partners dismiss what I share about the experiences of my friends of color is one indication of the distrust sown by whiteness."
The majority of the book is working through how the suggested discipleship practices take solidarity seriously. These discipleship practices include table fellowship, preaching, worship (liturgy), children’s ministry and discipleship, presence, rejection of superiority, and friendship. There are many good suggestions for churches that are already racially diverse, for churches that are not racially diverse, and for churches in communities that are diverse and churches that are in communities that are not diverse. Overall this is a beneficial book, although I think it is mostly introductory and designed to be.
After I was about 20-30 percent in, I stopped and flipped to the notes and started reading his list of citations (and then his suggested further reading list in the back). I have not read every book he cites, but I have read most of them, and many of those that I haven’t read are on my to-read list and/or I am familiar with them. I have been reluctant to pick up Rediscipling the White church. There are several reasons for this, including some mistrust of White people that write and lead on racial issues, desire to primarily read Black and other racial minorities on racial matters, and likely some self-righteousness about thinking I wouldn’t get much from Swanson.
Most White people that are writing about race are consciously doing so because they know that the reality of White superiority is that White people will be more likely to listen to White voices, and they often directly acknowledge this. Pragmatically, I know this, as does almost everyone that is trying to move White people, especially White Christians. There is always a tension between magnifying minority voices (which White people are less likely to read) and encouraging White voices (which implies feeding into White superiority).
Two biographical details, I think, help explain some of Swanson’s openness to racial issues. One, he is a White adoptive parent of Black children. Every group that I am in that has a significant presence of white people talking about race has a disproportionally high percent of White people who are adoptive parents of minority children or who are in interracial relationships. Racial issues become more salient because of their relational proximity. The second biographical detail that matters is that he was a missionary kid. Missionary kids, who can broadly be counted as third culture kids (children who are not entirely in the culture of their parents or their community and so are a ‘third’ culture), have a greater ability as adults to move between cultures because of the early exposure to a variety of cultures.
As I read, I confronted my skepticism of Swanson’s work. He is recommended and vouched for by people I trust. I used to live in the community where he lives and ministers now, and so I have some relationship and identification there. My skepticism is, in part, skepticism of my work in racial issues. We have read much of the same stuff. We are similar ages. Our paths diverged in details (he started as suburban and moved to the city, I started in the city and moved to the suburbs in my 30s). So my skepticism is likely as much about being skeptical about myself as it is about him. I am going to continue to be unsure both about Swanson and myself because there is no end here. Part of the reality of discipleship is that the goal is becoming like Christ, which means it is a project that will not have a final endpoint.
Rediscipling the White church helped make some of my thoughts more concrete. The practical steps at the end about reimagining the practice of evangelism, I think, were constructive, and I agree with them. These include making a long term commitment to place, to seek out areas where we experience mutuality with neighbors, be together with people, and imitate the Black church’s resistance to splitting evangelism and justice. Swanson designed the book as an introduction and a starting point to point readers in a long term direction. The annotated reading list at the end is a start to help move people toward racial justice.
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- Clay Taylor
- 11-15-20
Rollercoaster of a ride!
Took me through a range of thoughts and understanding about being a white Christian. Exhilarating at times and other times challenging to hear. Great use of scripture and discipleship to help us white Christians navigate our journey from cheap diversity to deep solidarity. Also introduced me to authors of color I might have missed.
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