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Returning to Us

Returning to Us

By: Lauren Spigelmyer
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To help people who help people, the organization needs to be healthy and have practices in place that consider the trauma of those they serve. Lauren Spigelmyer and Jessica Doering have helped thousands of people who help people all over the world. Each week they'll explore tools, insights, and stories to help you lead and live with more clarity, calm, and connection. If you’re looking for support as you grow your organization’s capacity for caring for staff and the community, we would love to be part of that journey.



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Episodes
  • Thrive- The Fourth Stage of the Five Ives
    Jun 3 2025

    In this episode, Lauren and Jessica explore the fourth stage of the Five Ives framework—Thrive—where individuals and organizations are aligned with their goals and truly "living the dream." Thriving means healthy communication and the ability to regulation emotions quickly. It builds on the healing work of earlier stages like Revive and Strive and emphasizes the importance of social connection for long-term well-being. At this stage, fulfillment, alignment, and meaningful relationships are at the core of sustained success.

    Other related resources from Five Ives:

    Blog Post:

    • Why Traditional Employee Wellness Programs Fail (And What Works Instead)
    • Survive Mode: Recognizing When Your Organization is in Crisis
    • What are the Five Ives?

    Podcast:

    • Strive- The Third Stage of the Five Ives
    • Revive- The Second Stage of the Five Ives
    • Survive- The First Stage of the Five Ives
    • What are the Five Ives?
    • A Five Category Regulation Framework - Five Ives!
    • Using Our 5-Category Regulation Framework in the Workplace
    • Impacting Organizational Culture: Explaining the First 2 Ps
    • Impacting Organization Culture: Explaining the Second 2 Ps

    Our Online Programs:

    • Behavior Breakthrough
    • Policing Under Pressure
    • Board Governance Training


    Subscribe to our mailing list and find out more about Stress, Trauma, Behavior and the Brain!

    • Check out our Facebook Group – Five Ives!
    • Five Ives Website website
    • The Behavior Hub blog

    If you’re looking for support as you grow your organization’s capacity for caring for staff and the community, we would love to be part of that journey.
    Schedule a free discovery call and let us be your guide

    As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.

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    23 mins
  • Revive- The Second Stage of the Five Ives
    May 20 2025

    In this episode, Lauren and Jessica dive into the second stage of the Five Ives framework: Revive. After becoming self-aware and stepping out of pure survival mode, the journey into Revive is all about beginning the slow, intentional process of healing. It’s not quick or flashy—in fact, healing is inherently soft, gentle, and gradual. This stage is about rewiring our brains and taking consistent micro-steps forward, both individually and as an organization. Lauren and Jessica explore what it starts to feel like as we shift out of survival and begin to nurture ourselves with care and attention.

    They highlight five key areas—food, hydration, sleep, social interaction, and movement—as foundational to this healing process. Even simple actions like adding one nutritious food to your plate, drinking more water, or getting ten minutes of daily movement can make a real impact. For organizations, supporting Revive might look like offering meditation spaces, encouraging real breaks, or fostering safe spaces for social connection. Whether you’re an individual wanting to heal or a leader supporting your team, Revive is about embracing the slow, steady path to well-being.

    Resources:

    Peanut App

    Other related resources from Five Ives:

    Blog Post:

    • What are the Five Ives?
    • Why Traditional Employee Wellness Programs Fail (And What Works Instead)
    • Survive Mode: Recognizing When Your Organization is in Crisis
    • What are the Five Ives?

    Podcast:

    • Survive- The First Stage of the Five Ives
    • A Five Category Regulation Framework - Five Ives!
    • Using Our 5-Category Regulation Framework in the Workplace
    • Impacting Organizational Culture: Explaining the First 2 Ps
    • Impacting Organization Culture: Explaining the Second 2 Ps

    Our Online Programs:

    • Behavior Breakthrough
    • Policing Under Pressure
    • Board Governance Training


    Subscribe to our mailing list and find out more about Stress, Trauma, Behavior and the Brain!

    • Check out our Facebook Group – Five Ives!
    • Five Ives Website website
    • The Behavior Hub blog

    If you’re looking for support as you grow your organization’s capacity for caring for staff and the community, we would love to be part of that journey.
    Schedule a free discovery call and let us be your guide

    As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.

    Show more Show less
    40 mins
  • Strive- The Third Stage of the Five Ives
    May 20 2025

    In this episode, Lauren and Jessica continue their exploration of the Five Ives, focusing on the third stage—Strive. They unpack what it means to be in the Strive phase, both for organizations and individuals. For organizations, a positive culture in this stage is built through intentional inclusion and collaboration at all levels, supported by transparent decision-making and guidance from external coaches. When people feel heard and informed, they’re more engaged and motivated to move forward.

    For individuals and businesses alike, Strive is about pacing yourself and setting smart, attainable micro-goals. Lauren and Jessica emphasize the importance of realistic, habit-based steps that support bigger, audacious dreams. Progress doesn’t have to be loud or fast—it just has to be steady and intentional. And importantly, they remind listeners not to let unhealthy voices dictate the healing process. You are capable of big things—just keep it simple and stay consistent.

    Resources:

    Jim Kwik

    Other related resources from Five Ives:

    Blog Post:

    • Why Traditional Employee Wellness Programs Fail (And What Works Instead)
    • Survive Mode: Recognizing When Your Organization is in Crisis
    • What are the Five Ives?

    Podcast:

    • Revive- The Second Stage of the Five Ives
    • Survive- The First Stage of the Five Ives
    • What are the Five Ives?
    • A Five Category Regulation Framework - Five Ives!
    • Using Our 5-Category Regulation Framework in the Workplace
    • Impacting Organizational Culture: Explaining the First 2 Ps
    • Impacting Organization Culture: Explaining the Second 2 Ps

    Our Online Programs:

    • Behavior Breakthrough
    • Policing Under Pressure
    • Board Governance Training


    Subscribe to our mailing list and find out more about Stress, Trauma, Behavior and the Brain!

    • Check out our Facebook Group – Five Ives!
    • Five Ives Website website
    • The Behavior Hub blog

    If you’re looking for support as you grow your organization’s capacity for caring for staff and the community, we would love to be part of that journey.
    Schedule a free discovery call and let us be your guide

    As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.

    Show more Show less
    39 mins
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