• SoberNotMature - Episode 173 (Enthusiasms - That Which Brings Us Joy)
    Jun 14 2025

    Yep, it's us again. We are Mike and Bill. Nice to meet you.

    Mike started out with his reading and it was inspired by a lead that he heard earlier in the week. It was about honesty and that is the backbone of our program, so it was a really good conversation.

    Our friend Tim celebrated 40 years sober this week and we gave him a well deserved shout out.

    We did some reminiscing about a group that we attended at the Keating Center, chatted about Andrew McCarthy, dove into the 6th Step for a bit, gave a medical update and recapped our weekend at Founder's Day.

    We wrapped up with a couple of articles. One about men just going through the motions in life and then words that "fake" smart people use. It was interesting, to say the least.

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  • SoberNotMature - Episode 172 (Brothers In Defects)
    Jun 7 2025

    It's Founder's Day Weekend! And it's the 90th Anniversary of the founding of Alcoholics Anonymous.

    Mike started out with his reading and it was all about the "we" of the program. We learn to set our egos aside, be of service to others and we become a group of people, with the same goal. We are Brothers In Defects. It was a great reading and a great conversation.

    We found out this week that Marc Maron will be ending his podcast this fall, after 16 years. He's one of us, someone we follow and enjoy and we will miss his show. But he is leaving with grace and on his own terms. That is the cool part.

    Then it was Founder's Day talk. The past, the present and why we enjoy it so much.

    We also chatted about Henry Winkler, an old review that we received and what have we always wanted to do? We are sober and have the freedom now, so that also gives us many options.

    We wrapped up with an article about dirty dishes. It was not what we expected and we took it in a worse direction. Imagine that.

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  • SoberNotMature - Episode 171 (Mildly Entertaining As Always)
    May 31 2025

    This week, it's us. Mike and Bill, just keeping it simple.

    Mike started out with his reading and it was about what we do when no one is looking and the fact that "we are only as sick as our secrets." We can all act decent for an hour at a meeting, but what about the rest of the time? It was a good conversation.

    We shared some messages from a couple of listeners, and one of them was from a buddy of ours in Cleveland who is an avid listener, and we had no idea. We also chatted about our upcoming upcoming guests; a priest and a Sober Curator.

    Then it was one day at a time, balance, the feeling or the need to help others, avoiding strangers, driving through creeks, a Foo firing and Henry Winkler.

    We also read a couple of articles that were fun and interesting. Downplaying your birthday and signs that men have lost their joy in life. We had a few laughs.

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  • SoberNotMature - Episode 170 (Sitting Down & Shutting The F Up)
    May 24 2025

    This week Mike and Bill are back at the helm. As it was said in the episode, "We still don't know what we are doing, but we sound good."

    Mike started off with his reading and it was all about the "we" of the program. People are there for us and we are there for them. That's how this thing works. It was a great reading and a good conversation.

    Then we talked talked about Mike's trip to DC, bad pizza, a fun text, how far we've come, old school AA guys (sitting down and shutting the F up), what kept us sober, favorite truck truck stops and being intellectually mature.

    We also came across an article with phrases that narcissists use. That was interesting.

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  • SoberNotMature - Episode 169 (Shirley We Jest)
    May 17 2025

    This week, as promised and finally, we have Shirley!

    Our friend from "the socials" and self proclaimed Sober Not Mature Fan Girl.

    This was one of the most laid back and comfortable conversations that we have had in a long time. She told us about her background, what got her into sobriety and what she does now. It was straight forward and to the point, but we learned a lot about her along along the way.

    She is from Detroit (Mike liked that), she practices a lot of the same things that we do and she got sober during the pandemic. Her sobriety date is 01/09/2020.

    It was a great conversation, and we had a wonderful time talking with her.

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  • SoberNotMature - Episode 168 (That's A Good Point)
    May 10 2025

    Woohoo! It's Mike and Bill again this week and we were fired up and ready to go. That may be an overstatement, but we enjoyed ourselves.

    Mike started off with his reading and it was about that little voice in our heads. Do we listen to it? Do we talk back to it? It was a little bit outside of what we normally talk about, but it was amusing.

    Mike is taking a trip this weekend and it's a family event, so we chatted about that. It happens to be to the nation's capital, so Mike is going to show his appreciation.

    Then it was Pope talk, what brings us joy, pride versus false pride, the pandemic (5 years ago already), negative moods, Jewel and did we really have fun back in our drinking days?

    And we ran across an article that talked about phrases that people use, like "I don't know," and "That's a good point." It has to do what type of people they are. It was a fun conversation.

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  • SoberNotMature - Episode 167 (Cleaning Up After Ourselves)
    May 3 2025

    Yep, it is just us this week. Shirley will be on with us in a couple of weeks, but we needed to reschedule. It was us, not her. and we are thankful that she was willing to be flexible.

    Mike started out with his reading and it was about learning. Learning from our past, learning how to be decent people, understanding others and just being a decent human being. It was a good conversation.

    We chatted about getting tased, meetings, fate, the Fourth Step, being accountable, character, the beginner's mind and opportunities.

    We also came across an article that talked about cleaning up after ourselves at a restaurant, and the characteristics that they discussed could have been written for recovery. It was very interesting.

    Once again, Shirley will join us in 2 weeks!

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  • SoberNotMature - Episode 166 (The Bad Boys Of Recovery - Warm Before Use)
    Apr 26 2025

    This week, it's the Anniversary Spectacular Episode! It's probably not spectacular, but both of us did have sober anniversaries.

    Mike started off with his reading and it was about a higher power and how we need to act. Do we "deserve" things? Does the world owe us things? We know how we were and how we are now and it was a good talk.

    And yes, both of us celebrated 15 years sober in the past week. It's a great accomplishment, but we are not done yet.

    Then we talked about saying goodbye, our upcoming guest, The Bad Boys Of Recovery, Demi Moore, dating app stories, Mike's favorite rock band and a trip down memory lane to our first days in The Keating Center.

    There was also a story about sex toys on fire. Warm before use, but don't light it on fire.

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