Better Never to Have Been
The Harm of Coming into Existence
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Dennis Kleinman
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David Benatar
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Most people believe that they were either benefited or at least not harmed by being brought into existence. Thus, if they ever do reflect on whether they should bring others into existence—rather than having children without even thinking about whether they should—they presume that they do them no harm. Better Never to Have Been challenges these assumptions. David Benatar argues that coming into existence is always a serious harm. Those who never exist cannot be deprived. However, by coming into existence one does suffer quite serious harms that could not have befallen one had one not come into existence. Drawing on the relevant psychological literature, the author shows that there are a number of well-documented features of human psychology that explain why people systematically overestimate the quality of their lives and why they are thus resistant to the suggestion that they were seriously harmed by being brought into existence. The author then argues for the "anti-natal" view—that it is always wrong to have children—and he shows that combining the anti-natal view with common pro-choice views about fetal moral status yield a "pro-death" view about abortion. Although counter-intuitive for many, that implication is defended, not least by showing that it solves many conundrums of moral theory about population.
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Michael Pollan, known for his best-selling nonfiction audio, including The Omnivores Dilemma and How to Change Your Mind, conceived and wrote Caffeine: How Caffeine Created the Modern World as an Audible Original. In this controversial and exciting listen, Pollan explores caffeine’s power as the most-used drug in the world - and the only one we give to children (in soda pop) as a treat.
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Mythology: Mega Collection
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Do you know how many wives Zeus had? Or how the famous Trojan War was caused by one beautiful lady? Or how Thor got his hammer? Give your imagination a real treat. This Mega Mythology Collection of eight audiobooks is for you....
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An interesting set of introductions.
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I Thought It Was Just Me (but it isn’t)
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The Strange Death of Europe is a highly personal account of a continent and culture caught in the act of suicide. Declining birth rates, mass immigration, and cultivated self-distrust and self-hatred have come together to make Europeans unable to argue for themselves and incapable of resisting their own comprehensive alteration as a society and an eventual end.
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Fear-mongering
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- Anonymous User
- 07-01-24
Validation’s for my beliefs
I have never been so validated in my life. I always knew life sucked and the people in it also. I recommend this book to anyone who has common sense and see how evil people are. Let’s prevent future victims of unnecessary trauma/ harm of living/ existence.
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- stevenduaneallisonjunior
- 01-08-24
pro tip
learn other words. using the same words over and over gets really old really fast.
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- Oyinda
- 09-29-23
one of my favorite books
someone had to say it! one of my favorite books and so happy it’s on audible too! :)
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- udoka addy
- 04-01-23
Thorough
physical book is easier to follow. Audiobook is much easier to digest after chapter two
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- seth
- 08-02-23
very interesting read
Such an interesting worldview very well defended. Not totally convinced as of yet but I'm sure I will think about this for the future and will listen a couple more times to really understand the arguments. Fantastic read
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- John Rothermel
- 01-31-23
Intellectually underwhelming
An underwhelming exercise in rhetorical legalese: ahistorical and complacent. The viewpoint on human misery is not differentiated by class or region of the world.Meh.
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