Do As I Say
How Cults Control, Why We Join Them, and What They Teach Us About Bullying, Abuse and Coercion
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At the heart of being human is the desire to belong. It can make us unspeakably vulnerable to the manipulations of others. Cult leaders prey on this desire, but so do many unscrupulous operators hiding in plain sight.
Sarah Steel, the creator of the popular 'Let's Talk About Sects' podcast, has researched the cults you've heard of—and dozens you haven't. What strikes her most are not the differences between bizarre cult behaviour and 'normal' behaviour but the depressing similarities. Her work reveals that we are all susceptible to the power of cult dynamics.
In Do As I Say, Sarah Steel tells the human tale behind the sensationalism. Sharing deeply personal stories, gathered over years of interviews with survivors, and some shocking tales about the world's most famous cults, she sheds light on the high cost of unchecked coercive behaviours to individuals and communities at large.
©2022 Sarah Steel (P)2022 Macmillan Australia AudioListeners also enjoyed...
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Critic reviews
"Sarah uses the stories of survivors to tease out the common threads of coercive control shared by cults and found in other parts of society. The result is a much-needed spotlight on the behaviours and personalities we are likely to encounter even if we never go anywhere near a cult." (David Gillespie, best-selling author and lawyer)
"In times of uncertainty when you long for simple answers and have a deep desire for community, you can find yourself incrementally handing over your agency to a charismatic but authoritarian and manipulative leader or group-think. In this book Sarah Steel has brilliantly charted how this happens in all sorts of ways and for all sorts of people; it provides an invaluable map to navigate this dangerous terrain." (Reverend Tim Costello AO)
"This book is a most comprehensive and studied look at cults, the leaders, and perhaps most importantly the survivors. Sarah Steel has given the world a real gem—one that will not only educate but also help to destigmatize those who have been harmed by cults and con artists. Bravo!" (Dr Janja Lalich, cult expert, academic and former cult member)
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Coming out as an atheist is a powerful, liberating act. It makes life better for you, for other atheists, and for the world. But telling people you're an atheist can be risky. What are the best ways to do it? And how can we help each other take this step? In this compassionate, friendly, down-to-earth how-to guide, popular author of Why Are You Atheists So Angry? 99 Things That Piss Off the Godless and blogger Greta Christina, offers concrete strategies and guiding philosophies for coming out as an atheist.
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All the Motivation You'll Need
- By Susie on 05-07-14
By: Greta Christina
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Galileo's Middle Finger
- Heretics, Activists, and the Search for Justice in Science
- By: Alice Dreger
- Narrated by: Tavia Gilbert
- Length: 10 hrs and 39 mins
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A powerful defense of intellectual freedom told through the ordeals of contemporary scientists attacked for exploring controversial ideas, by a noted science historian and medical activist.
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Engrossing but...
- By Lilly F. on 12-30-20
By: Alice Dreger
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Inside Scientology
- The Story of America's Most Secretive Religion
- By: Janet Reitman
- Narrated by: Stephen Hoye
- Length: 15 hrs and 40 mins
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Scientology, created in 1954 by a prolific sci-fi writer named L. Ron Hubbard, claims to be the world's fastest-growing religion, with millions of members around the world and huge financial holdings. Its celebrity believers keep its profile high, and its teams of "volunteer ministers" offer aid at disaster sites such as Haiti and the World Trade Center. But Scientology is also a notably closed faith, harassing journalists and others through litigation and intimidation, even infiltrating the highest levels of government to further its goals.
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My cup of tea.
- By MWMcCabe on 08-09-11
By: Janet Reitman
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Living the Secular Life
- New Answers to Old Questions
- By: Phil Zuckerman
- Narrated by: Andy Paris
- Length: 8 hrs and 9 mins
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A guidebook for living a life without religion, combining sociological insight and personal inspiration. Over the last 25 years, "no religion" has become the fastest growing religion in the United States. Around the world, hundreds of millions of people have turned away from the traditional faiths of the past and embraced a secular - or nonreligious - life, generating societies vastly less religious than at any other time in human history.
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Anecdotal based approach for understanding
- By Gary on 12-30-14
By: Phil Zuckerman
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A Battle for the Soul of Islam
- An American Muslim Patriot's Fight to Save His Faith
- By: M. Zuhdi Jasser
- Narrated by: Michael Prichard
- Length: 9 hrs and 31 mins
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Among the unsettling social shifts in the wake of 9/11 was the global attention paid to Islam. Here in the United States, we became divided, often sadly along partisan lines, between those who believed every Muslim was a potential threat and those who believed no Muslim could do wrong. For conservative Wisconsin native and former U.S. Navy lieutenant commander Dr. M. Zuhdi Jasser, these radical times meant facing a new reality as a devout Muslim and a patriot - a certain betrayal within his faith.
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A courageous and clear champion of American Liberty
- By Craigan on 04-07-16
By: M. Zuhdi Jasser
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Zealot
- A Book About Cults
- By: Jo Thornely
- Narrated by: Jo Thornely
- Length: 8 hrs and 9 mins
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Why would anyone join a cult? Maybe they're unhappy with their current religion, or they want to change the world, or they're disappointed with their lives and want to find something bigger or holier that makes sense of this confusing, chaotic and dangerous world. Or maybe they just want to give themselves the best possible chance of having sex with aliens. Whatever the reason, once people are in, it's usually very difficult for them to leave.
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Good I'm formation.
- By sarah crandall on 03-12-19
By: Jo Thornely
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America's Real War
- By: Rabbi Daniel Lapin
- Narrated by: Rabbi Daniel Lapin
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There is a tug of war going on for the future of America. At one end of the rope are those who think America is a secular nation; at the other end are those who believe religion is at the root of our country's foundation. In this audio release of the thought-provoking America's Real War, renowned leader and speaker Rabbi Daniel Lapin encourages America to reembrace the Judeo-Christian values on which our nation was founded and logically demonstrates why those values are crucial to America's strength in the new millennium.
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I really enjoyed the thoughts and information.
- By Anonymous User on 05-28-19
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In Our Backyard
- Human Trafficking in America and What We Can Do to Stop It
- By: Nita Belles
- Narrated by: Nicol Zanzarella
- Length: 7 hrs and 4 mins
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Human trafficking is not just something that happens in other countries. Nor is it something that just happens to "other people," such as runaways or the disenfranchised. Even kids in your own neighborhood can fall victim. But they don't have to.
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A good entry to learning about HT
- By Justicepirate on 12-05-16
By: Nita Belles
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Angry White Men
- American Masculinity at the End of an Era
- By: Michael Kimmel
- Narrated by: Aaron Williamson
- Length: 12 hrs and 46 mins
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One of the enduring legacies of the 2012 Presidential campaign was the demise of the white American male voter as a dominant force in the political landscape. On election night, after Obama was announced the winner, a distressed Bill O'Reilly lamented that he didn't live in "a traditional America anymore". He was joined by others who bellowed their grief on the talk radio airwaves, the traditional redoubt of angry white men. Why were they so angry?
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Interesting book; Wrong reader
- By Carolina A. Miranda on 05-02-18
By: Michael Kimmel
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How We Can Win
- Race, History and Changing the Money Game That’s Rigged
- By: Kimberly Jones
- Narrated by: Kimberly Jones
- Length: 6 hrs and 9 mins
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In How We Can Win, Jones delves into the impacts of systemic racism and reveals how her formative years in Chicago gave birth to a lifelong devotion to justice. Here, in a vital expansion of her declaration, she calls for Reconstruction 2.0, a multilayered plan to reclaim economic and social restitutions - those restitutions promised with emancipation but blocked, again and again, for more than 150 years. And, most of all, Jones delivers strategies for how we can effect change as citizens and allies while nurturing ourselves in the fight against a system that is still rigged.
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Valid points made, but contradictory as well...
- By Julian C. Young on 01-28-22
By: Kimberly Jones
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The Way of the Heathen
- Practicing Atheism in Everyday Life
- By: Greta Christina
- Narrated by: Greta Christina
- Length: 8 hrs and 27 mins
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So you're an atheist. Now what? The way we deal with life - with love and sex, pleasure and death, reality and making stuff up - can change dramatically when we stop believing in gods, souls, and afterlives. When we leave religion - or if we never had it in the first place - where do we go? With her unique blend of compassion and humor, thoughtfulness and snark, Greta Christina most emphatically does not propose a single path to a good atheist life. She offers questions to think about, ideas that may be useful, and encouragement to choose your own way.
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Navigating the world outside of church
- By Scott Bresinger on 01-21-17
By: Greta Christina
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Forget "Having It All"
- How America Messed Up Motherhood - and How to Fix It
- By: Amy Westervelt
- Narrated by: Amy Westervelt
- Length: 8 hrs and 36 mins
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In Forget "Having It All", Westervelt traces the roots of our modern expectations of mothers and motherhood back to extremist ideas held by the first Puritans who attempted to colonize America and examines how those ideals shifted - or didn't - through every generation since.
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A Thorough and Well-Researched Book on The "Mom Predicament"
- By Merle B on 04-10-19
By: Amy Westervelt
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The Opposite of Hate
- A Field Guide to Repairing Our Humanity
- By: Sally Kohn
- Narrated by: Sally Kohn
- Length: 7 hrs and 3 mins
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As a progressive commentator on Fox News and now CNN, Sally Kohn has made a career out of bridging intractable political differences, learning how to talk civilly to people whose views she disagrees with passionately. Famously "nice", she even gave a TED Talk about what she termed emotional correctness. But these days, even Kohn has found herself wanting to breathe fire at her enemies. It was time, she decided, to look into the ugliness erupting all around us.
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Profoundly insightful, important, and digestible.
- By Scott on 04-24-18
By: Sally Kohn
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- Sam Stark
- 07-28-22
Listen to Victim-Survivors
I’m not at all surprise that this book is as comprehensive and well put together as it is. I don’t want to say that I expected it, because that sounds entitled, but I do find a certain amount of comfort when tuning in to author Sara Steel’s podcast “Let’s Talk About Sects.” Every episode is researched, professionally discussed, engaging, and compassionate. She interviews cult survivors/leavers, giving them a platform on which they can tell their stories without judgement or confrontation—a rare and wonderful thing, and then gives you a very straightforward “this is what happened, here are the facts.” The only difference between her podcast and this book, is that the book is looking at things on a much larger scale.
“Do as I Say” takes key points from Sarah’s interviews from a number of different sects and weaves them all together to spotlight behaviors and practices we as a culture/society need to be mindful of. There is also a well-thought-out layout of cultic terms and defining characteristics—basically things to ask yourself about groups you may be suspicious of, or perhaps an organization or church you are a part of. Sarah also shines light on the trials survivors go through just by leaving, which I believe is the most important takeaway this book has to offer.
As a survivor of abuse, I cannot recommend this book enough, especially for those who struggle with past (or current) relationship trauma or find themselves repeatedly in situations where they are undermined or coerced into giving up their autonomy. For the rest of you, read it to gain some insight into ways you can be aware and mindful of people that may need help, or even to just learn how to be a better friend, listener, and human being.
Last, but not least, I have to say from a professional standpoint, Sarah has done a fantastic job narrating this book. The same professionalism, compassion, and once in a while splash of humor I’ve grown to love on her podcast, shine through here, making a sometimes heavy listen an excellent experience.
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- Anonymous User
- 03-01-24
Well researched and both fascinating and harrowing
This was a great book/read about cults both in Australia and New Zealand and the rest of the world. It was very well researched and did an insightful analysis of cults.
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- Brown Family Mucho
- 12-30-22
Super informative
A well written inside look into cult methodology and pedagogy for the layman.
10/10
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- Customer
- 09-03-22
Excellent work!
Sarah Steel shares a nuanced, thorough, and compassionate view on cults and their survivors. She masterfully weaves the stories of leavers and the research by experts in an un-sensationalized study of high control groups. Her performance narrating is sure to please all the fans of her excellent podcast. The book’s themes are serious, but her calm and gentle demeanor helps the audience empathize with survivors.
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- Dusty Hodges
- 08-05-22
A Brilliant Throughline from a Brilliant Journo
Not just a podcast rehash: a long-view look at the throughlines of cults. Sarah Steel's expertise after years of looking at cults on the genius podcast Let's Talk About Sects is brought to bear on the larger questions of cults: who joins them? Why do they join them? And what can we do to help those who are trying to escape?
An absolute must read. The more people are educated on this topic, the less power these cults have.
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- Hank
- 12-14-22
An interesting and important book
I enjoyed listening to this audiobook, literally straight from the author’s mouth. If cults are something you’re interested in then this is your book. But even if not, there are many important lessons here about critical thinking and questioning blind adherence, so definitely worth anyone’s time.
I also appreciate the author injecting her personal story and perspective, and having a stance on issues we face in contemporary society.
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- Shelly
- 09-11-22
A compelling look into manipulation and coercion.
This book is a compelling look into coercion and control at any level. I love how the author delineates the concept of manipulation and presents tools and insights on how to recognize it in everyday life. If you wish to maintain personal autonomy as our world shifts, you should read this book!
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- craig
- 08-06-22
Fascinating read by the author
In some ways this is a summary of the Let's Talk about Sects podcast. I this book Sarah dives deeper into the elements of each group that makes them problematic and how different groups use similar tactics and methods.
The are many personal accounts from different groups each giving fascinating insights. This book can be read as a standalone book or alongside the podcast.
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