Looking for the Good War
American Amnesia and the Violent Pursuit of Happiness
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In Looking for the Good War, Elizabeth D. Samet reexamines the literature, art, and culture that emerged after World War II, bringing her expertise as a professor of English at West Point to bear on the complexity of the postwar period in national life. She exposes the confusion about American identity that was expressed during and immediately after the war, and the deep national ambivalence toward war, violence, and veterans - all of which were suppressed in subsequent decades by a dangerously sentimental attitude toward the United States' "exceptional" history and destiny.
Samet finds the war's ambivalent legacy in some of its most heavily mythologized figures: the war correspondent epitomized by Ernie Pyle, the character of the erstwhile GI turned either cop or criminal in the pulp fiction and feature films of the late 1940s, the disaffected Civil War veteran who looms so large on the screen in the Cold War Western, and the resurgent military hero of the post-Vietnam period. Taken together, these figures reveal key elements of postwar attitudes toward violence, liberty, and nation - attitudes that have shaped domestic and foreign policy and that respond in various ways to various assumptions about national identity and purpose established or affirmed by World War II.
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No nation is a stranger to war, but for Russians war is a central part of who they are. Their "motherland" has been the battlefield where some of the largest armies have clashed, the most savage battles have been fought, the highest death tolls paid. Having prevailed over Mongol hordes and vanquished Napoleon and Hitler, many Russians believe no other nation has sacrificed so much for the world.
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A bit dry and academic
- By Mike From Mesa on 07-16-17
By: Gregory Carleton
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Embracing Defeat
- By: John W. Dower
- Narrated by: Edward Lewis
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This illuminating study explores the ways in which the shattering defeat of the Japanese in World War II, followed by over six years of American military occupation, affected every level of Japanese society. The author describes the countless ways in which the Japanese met the challenge of "starting over", from top-level manipulations concerning the fate of Emperor Hirohito to the hopes, fears, and activities of ordinary men and women in every walk of life.
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Pulitzer Prize Winner!
- By KF on 10-09-07
By: John W. Dower
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The Man Who Invented Fiction
- How Cervantes Ushered in the Modern World
- By: William Egginton
- Narrated by: Michael Butler Murray
- Length: 8 hrs and 14 mins
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In the early 17th century, a crippled, graying, almost toothless veteran of Spain's wars against the Ottoman Empire published a novel. It was the story of a poor nobleman, his brain addled from studying too many novels of chivalry, who deludes himself that he is a knight errant and sets off on hilarious adventures. That story, Don Quixote, went on to sell more copies than any other book beside the Bible, making its author, Miguel de Cervantes, the single most-read author in human history.
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Very Interesting and Informative, but Poorly Read
- By LCorSMT on 06-21-23
By: William Egginton
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There Was a Country
- A Personal History of Biafra
- By: Chinua Achebe
- Narrated by: Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje
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The defining experience of Chinua Achebe's life was the Nigerian civil war, also known as the Biafran War, of 1967-1970. The conflict was infamous for its savage impact on the Biafran people, Chinua Achebe's people, many of whom were starved to death after the Nigerian government blockaded their borders. Immediately after, Achebe took refuge in an academic post in the United States, and for more than 40 years he has maintained a considered silence on the events of those terrible years. Now, decades in the making, comes a towering reckoning with one of modern Africa's most fateful events.
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The Audible Edition Is a Disaster
- By Olu on 11-28-12
By: Chinua Achebe
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The Long Shadow
- The Legacies of the Great War in the Twentieth Century
- By: David Reynolds
- Narrated by: John FitzGibbon
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One of the most violent conflicts in the history of civilization, World War I has been strangely forgotten in American culture. It has become a ghostly war fought in a haze of memory, often seen merely as a distant preamble to World War II. In The Long Shadow critically-acclaimed historian David Reynolds seeks to broaden our vision by assessing the impact of the Great War across the twentieth century. He shows how events in that turbulent century—particularly World War II, the Cold War, and the collapse of Communism—shaped and reshaped attitudes to 1914–18.
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The World According to David Reynolds (feat. WWI)
- By Steve on 02-26-15
By: David Reynolds
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Adolf Hitler
- A Captivating Guide to the Life of the Führer of Nazi Germany
- By: Captivating History
- Narrated by: Duke Holm
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Explore the rise of Adolf Hitler. Was Hitler, as Ian Kershaw asked, a natural consequence of German history, or an aberration? Not that Hitler had been in hiding, waiting to attack. The Führer had actually been following an aggressive and savage foreign policy for almost 10 years, and been named Man of the Year by Time magazine in 1938.
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Awesome little book
- By Bryan T. on 02-02-19
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The Long March
- How the Cultural Revolution of the 1960s Changed America
- By: Roger Kimball
- Narrated by: Raymond Todd
- Length: 9 hrs and 23 mins
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The architects of America's cultural revolution of the 1960s were Beat authors like Allen Ginsberg and Jack Kerouac, and celebrated figures like Norman Mailer, Timothy Leary, Eldridge Cleaver, and Susan Sontag. In examining the lives and works of those who spoke for the 1960s, Roger Kimball conceives a series of cautionary tales, an annotated guidebook of wrong turns, dead-ends, and blind alleys.
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The Long March
- By Suzanne on 05-16-06
By: Roger Kimball
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Existentialism and Excess
- The Life and Times of Jean-Paul Sartre
- By: Gary Cox
- Narrated by: Matt Addis
- Length: 8 hrs and 27 mins
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Jean-Paul Sartre is one of the undisputed giants of 20th-century philosophy. His intellectual writings popularizing existentialism, combined with his creative and artistic flair, have made him a legend of French thought. His tumultuous personal life - so inextricably bound up with his philosophical thinking - is a fascinating tale of love and lust, drug abuse, high-profile fallings-out and political and cultural rebellion.
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a capitalista biography of Sartre
- By Anonymous User on 01-24-20
By: Gary Cox
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The N Word
- Who Can Say It, Who Shouldn't, and Why
- By: Jabari Asim
- Narrated by: Mirron Willis
- Length: 9 hrs and 24 mins
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In 2003, the book Nigger started an intense conversation about the uses and implications of that epithet. The N Word moves beyond that short, provocative book by revealing how the word has both reflected and spread the scourge of bigotry in America.
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Good points, long winded
- By Amazon Customer on 02-06-21
By: Jabari Asim
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This Republic of Suffering
- Death and the American Civil War
- By: Drew Gilpin Faust
- Narrated by: Lorna Raver
- Length: 10 hrs and 54 mins
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During the Civil War, 620,000 soldiers lost their lives - equivalent to six million in today's population. This Republic of Suffering explores the impact of the enormous death toll from material, political, intellectual, and spiritual angles. Drew Gilpin Faust delineates the ways death changed not only individual lives but the life of the nation and describes how a deeply religious culture reconciled the slaughter with its belief in a benevolent God.
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a unique civil war perspective
- By D. Littman on 04-21-08
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- Robert D Hunter
- 03-06-22
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This book is much more about the reflection of the mythology of American history including war in the cultural dynamic of today in books, movies, Presidential speeches, TV shows and the like than it is about the the mythology itself and how it came to be and the influence it now has on American politics and attitudes. Too bad. We are drowning in these myths making reasonable discussion and disagreement very difficult.
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- Nice guy
- 04-09-22
Every Hawkish Person Should Listen to This Book
This is a wonderful listen if you want to understand how we sell the myth of warfare and hide the true gruesomeness of war from the eyes of "a grateful nation". When I listened to this I also found an article that Dr. Samet wrote in American Scholar Magazine, her thoughts about the current conflicts and this book make me proud to think that our military cadets are being exposed to scholars who make them think about the consequences of war, and how the post war narrative may not always prepare future generations for the wars to come. This book is a must listen for all serious students of the impact of warfare on the American culture, and a must for the war hawks out there.
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- jbfuller317
- 09-01-23
Interesting revisionist discussion of WWII, society and memory
A sweeping survey of the experience and attitudes of contemporary Americans about WWII. Fluid and highly informed discussion of attitudes about the was through the lens of America’s sense of itself as shaped by previous wars, specifically the Civil War. Not a military history.
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- chetyarbrough.blog
- 08-06-23
WARS TRUTH
Elizabeth Samet's "Looking for the Good War" tells a hard truth about war. As a professor at West Point, it seems incongruous for Samet to write this book. On the other hand, who would better understand a career for future military officers than a West Point' professor? The command structure of the military requires soldiers do what they are ordered to do. In that doing, they may lose their minds, their lives, or their physical health. Samet raises the hard truth of every war, i.e., a soldier's duty is to follow orders and when necessary, kill or be killed.
Truth of war becomes distorted by memory, and human bias that is memorialized by the visual arts and literature. The support for Samet's view of war is in art and media representations of its history. From Picasso's Guernica that illustrates the real horror of war to movies like Sands of Iwo Jima, war's reality is distorted. Art and literature tell different truths. Samet is arguing no war is a good war because war is inherently bad for the mental and physical existence of human life. She argues narratives of America's Civil War are prime examples of the distortion of truth about a "...Good War..." in the same sense as Brokaw's WWII narrative. Samet coldly notes America's idealization of rebel opposition to union and civil rights falls into the same category as the idealization of America's role in WWII. Just as America did not save the world for democracy in WWII, America's Civil War did not erase institutional racism. Racism hardened after America's civil war and continues to this day.
As seen in Ukraine, Myanmar, Ethiopia, and Sudan--wars continue to roil the world. War is only a destroyer, not a builder of society. Samet implies the truth of war will continue to be distorted by both victors and losers who tell the tale.
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- Arlene S. Burke
- 02-23-22
Essential reading for military officers and political decision makers.
This is an excellent and well researched piece of historical importance. It contains insights seldom heard or seen in other publications, and yet essential to decision making in the future. I would hope that this book would be required reading at all US service academies and for senior diplomats and political leaders.
Richard J. Burke
Madison, Connecticut and Marco Island, Florida
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- Brandon A Mazander
- 01-07-23
Skip it
I was looking forward to a strategic view of a discussion of the negative benefits of hero worship. This was mostly a diatribe of what felt like random historical pop culture facts about how bad the United States really is. Forgetting that no society is completely homogenous and that you will always find valid reasons for dissenters and empathetic reasons to do better. It was hard to finish, and did not feel like I truly learned anything when I finished.
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