The Making of Biblical Womanhood
How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth
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Biblical womanhood - the belief that God designed women to be submissive wives, virtuous mothers, and joyful homemakers - pervades North-American Christianity. From choices about careers to roles in local churches to relationship dynamics, this belief shapes the everyday lives of evangelical women. Yet biblical womanhood isn't biblical, says Baylor University historian Beth Allison Barr. It was born in a series of clearly definable historical moments.
This book moves the conversation about biblical womanhood beyond Greek grammar and into the realm of church history - ancient, medieval, and modern - to show that this belief is not divinely ordained but a product of human civilization that continues to creep into the church. Barr's historical insights provide context for contemporary teachings about women's roles in the church and help move the conversation forward.
Interweaving her story as a Baptist pastor's wife, Barr sheds light on the #ChurchToo movement and abuse scandals in Southern Baptist circles and the broader evangelical world, helping listeners understand why biblical womanhood is more about human power structures than the message of Christ.
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We are in the midst of a paradigm shift in the church. Not since the Reformation five centuries ago have so many Christians come together to ask whether the church is in sync with their deepest beliefs and commitments. These believers range from evangelicals to mainline Protestants to Catholics, and the person who best represents them is author and pastor Brian McLaren. In this much anticipated book, McLaren examines ten questions facing today's church - questions about how to articulate the faith itself, the nature of its authority, who God is....
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Clear, Careful, Considerate Confrontation
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Best-selling author John Ortberg shares how Jesus' influence has swept over history and how his vision of life continues to impact humanity today. Jesus' impact on our world is highly unlikely, widely inescapable, largely unknown, and decidedly double-edged. It is unlikely in light of the severe limitations of his earthly life; it is inescapable because of the range of impact; it is unknown because history doesn't connect dots; and it is doubled-edged because his followers have wreaked so much havoc, often in his name.
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NOT narrated by John Ortberg, sadly
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By: John Ortberg
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Another Gospel?
- A Lifelong Christian Seeks Truth in Response to Progressive Christianity
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Alisa Childers never thought she would question her Christian faith. She was raised in a Christian home, where she had seen her mom and dad feed the hungry, clothe the homeless, and love the outcast. She had witnessed God at work and then had dedicated her own life to leading worship as part of the popular Christian band ZOEgirl. All that was deeply challenged when she met a progressive pastor who called himself a hopeful agnostic. Another Gospel? describes the intellectual journey Alisa took over several years as she wrestled with a series of questions.
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A must listen! Bring your doubts!
- By J. Withers on 10-08-20
By: Alisa Childers
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Scripture and the Authority of God
- How to Read the Bible Today
- By: N. T. Wright
- Narrated by: James Adams
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In this revised and expanded edition of The Last Word, Wright, Bishop of Durham, one of the preeminent Bible scholars of our day and author of such beloved works as After You Believe and Simply Christian, gives new life to the old, tattered doctrine of the authority of Scripture, delivering a fresh, helpful, and concise statement on the current battles for the Bible and restoring Scripture as a place to find God's voice.
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Takes scripture very seriously
- By Adam Shields on 05-31-11
By: N. T. Wright
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Divine Design
- God's Complementary Roles for Men and Women
- By: John MacArthur
- Narrated by: Maurice England
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We're facing an identity crisis. For decades our culture has tried to blur the lines between men and women, to make gender irrelevant, all in the name of equality. It’s a message that has slowly infiltrated our marriages, our homes, and even our churches. Yet instead of creating harmony, this message has only caused confusion, ultimately leading to a tragic breakdown of relationships and families. Divine Design calls us back to God’s original intent for men and women.
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I am a wife and mother
- By Elle Bee on 02-12-16
By: John MacArthur
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For the Body
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- Narrated by: Josh Childs
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The human body is an amazing gift, yet today, many people downplay its importance and fail to understand what Christianity teaches about our bodies and their God-given purposes. Many people misunderstand how the body was designed, its role in relating to others; and we lack awareness of the dangers of objectifying the body, divorcing it from its intended purpose.
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Well done
- By Adam Moore on 03-26-21
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The Faiths of the Founding Fathers
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In this compact audiobook, David L. Holmes offers a clear, concise and illuminating look at the spiritual beliefs of our founding fathers. He begins with an informative account of the religious culture of the late colonial era, surveying the religious groups in each colony. In particular, he sheds light on the various forms of deism that flourished in America, highlighting the profound influence this intellectual movement had on the founding generation.
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Compelling but deism oversold
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By: David L. Holmes
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People to Be Loved
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Christians who are confused by the homosexuality debate raging in the US are looking for resources that are based solidly on a deep study of what Scripture says about the issue. In People to Be Loved, Preston Sprinkle challenges those on all sides of the debate to consider what the Bible says and how we should approach the topic of homosexuality in light of it.
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Shallow Empathy
- By Taylor on 02-18-21
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A Short Life of Jonathan Edwards
- By: George M. Marsden
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Jonathan Edwards is one of the most extraordinary figures in American history. Arguably the most brilliant theologian ever born on American soil, Edwards (1703 - 1758) was also a pastor, a renowned preacher, a missionary to the Native Americans, a biographer, a college president, a philosopher, a loving husband, and the father of 11 children.
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Terrific book and well narrated
- By SBT on 01-22-11
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The Mormon Mirage
- A Former Member Looks at the Mormon Church Today
- By: Latayne C. Scott
- Narrated by: Tamara Marston
- Length: 14 hrs and 52 mins
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Three decades after leaving the Mormon faith, Latayne Colvett Scott looks back to her original journey out of Mormonism and the reasons why she left. Revised and updated, this third edition of The Mormon Mirage presents both a fascinating inside look at Mormonism and new and formidable evidence against its claims and teachings.
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Keep away from it. Hate-Literature.
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Still Time to Care
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- By: Greg Johnson
- Narrated by: Tom Parks
- Length: 12 hrs and 18 mins
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At the start of the gay rights movement in 1969, evangelicalism's leading voices cast a vision for gay people who turn to Jesus. It was C.S. Lewis, Billy Graham, Francis Schaeffer, and John Stott who were among the most respected leaders within theologically orthodox Protestantism. We see with them a positive pastoral approach toward gay people, an approach that viewed homosexuality as a fallen condition experienced by some Christians who needed care more than cure.
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Massively helpful book
- By rebecca on 04-11-22
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The First Paul
- Reclaiming the Radical Visionary Behind the Church's Conservative Icon
- By: Marcus J. Borg, John Dominic Crossan
- Narrated by: Mel Foster
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Paul is second only to Jesus as the most important person in the birth of Christianity, and yet he continues to be controversial, even among Christians. How could the letters of Paul be used both to inspire radical grace and to endorse systems of oppression - condoning slavery, subordinating women, condemning homosexual behavior? Borg and Crossan use the best of biblical and historical scholarship to explain the reasons for Paul's mixed reputation and reveal to us what scholars have known for decades: The later letters of Paul were created by the early church to dilute Paul's message.
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A Liberal Paul
- By Kayla on 05-12-20
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- Heidi Duncan
- 11-02-22
Essential history lesson for modern Christians
Having a shortsighted view of church history is a deficit I suffered being raised in the Evangelical church. B. A. Barr gave historical context to multiple doctrines I've never been able to reconcile! Zooming out to see this big picture has helped me find peace in many areas where I've otherwise felt conflicted, but couldn't quite put my finger on the reason. Highly recommend!
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- Frank Paulino
- 01-04-22
Exposure to Paul's Sass
I really enjoyed this book, as a Complementarian. I don't know that it changed my stance but it exposed some legalism in my heart, showed a compassionate picture of the harm Complementarian is causing in its misuse, and reminded me of Paul's sass and how we forget that. It also reminded me that as I read the Bible literally, to remember to read through versions and historical growth / changes.
Narration was okay. I wish she had given some pauses on headers and in between sections. It also got monotone in places I feel like the author would have wanted a bit of emotion. But overall it was pleasant.
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- Karen T
- 05-09-21
Must read
Everyone in the Evamgelical church should read (or listen to) this book. Well argued and eye-opening.
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- motlong
- 05-20-22
Most important book I’ve read second to the Bible
This should be required reading in every seminary, every church across the nation! This book left me with zero remaining doubts about the dangers of complimentarianism. Thank you for this powerful work!
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- Amazon Customer
- 03-27-22
Make the men read this
I’m gonna rent a speaker to blast this book at full volume in front of my old church
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- J. Hunt
- 03-21-23
Wow!
Beautiful wake up call for the church and enlightening history of women in Christianity. I highly recommend!
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- Jbthebaptist
- 04-18-23
A must read!
I loved this well written and well researched book. Great to have a great theological, historical and personal perspective all in one!
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- Allen Robins
- 06-16-23
Love these words!
This book should be read by all followers of Christ! As Ruth Bader Ginsberg said, "Women being in all places where decisions are being made," I would add EVEN in all the same places religious decisions are being made. Beth unequivocally shows that religious patriarchy has only followed the path of historical and cultural patriarchy and IS NOT God or Christ directed doctrine. BEAUTIFULLY WRITTEN!
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- Bethany
- 08-18-23
God loves women — it’s the church that hates us
Turns out God loves women too! It’s the church that hates us. This was scripturally sound and freeing!
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- Missagape
- 08-23-23
Mind officially blown
Words cannot express how much this book means to me. I stumbled upon it in what I thought was a coincidence. I decided to listen only because it was said to be expiring next month. I had just finished reading a secular book called Misogyny and I loved it but I wasn’t sure if it lined up with scripture and boom this book explained my questions so well.
The patriarchal church has damaged me personally in so many ways. I at first agreed with everything I was being taught. But lately it’s made less and less sense. Not to mention the abuse that continues to plague churches that have Complementarian doctrines. Women and men with open minds please take the time to read this book. Precious children of God are being wounded, but with knowledge, truth, unity and obedience to God we can make a difference.
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