The Nation That Never Was
Reconstructing America's Story
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Kermit Roosevelt III
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Kermit Roosevelt
About this listen
Our idea of the Founders’ America and its values is not true. We are not the heirs of the Founders, but we can be the heirs of Reconstruction and its vision for equality.
There’s a common story we tell about America: that our fundamental values as a country were stated in the Declaration of Independence, fought for in the Revolution, and made law in the Constitution. But, with the country increasingly divided, this story isn’t working for us anymore—what’s more, it’s not even true.
As Kermit Roosevelt argues in this eye-opening reinterpretation of the American story, our fundamental values, particularly equality, are not part of the vision of the Founders. Instead, they were stated in Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address and were the hope of Reconstruction, when it was possible to envision the emergence of the nation committed to liberty and equality.
We face a dilemma these days. We want to be honest about our history and the racism and oppression that Americans have both inflicted and endured. But we want to be proud of our country, too. In The Nation That Never Was, Roosevelt shows how we can do both those things by realizing we’re not the country we thought we were.
Reconstruction, Roosevelt argues, was not a fulfillment of the ideals of the Founding but rather a repudiation: we modern Americans are not the heirs of the Founders but of the people who overthrew and destroyed that political order. This alternate understanding of American identity opens the door to a new understanding of ourselves and our story, and ultimately to a better America.
America today is not the Founders’ America, but it can be Lincoln’s America. Roosevelt offers a powerful and inspirational rethinking of our country’s history and uncovers a shared past that we can be proud to claim and use as a foundation to work toward a country that fully embodies equality for all.
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Just as Donald Trump's victorious campaign for the US presidency shocked the world, the seemingly sudden national prominence of white supremacists, xenophobes, militia leaders, and mysterious "alt-right" figures mystifies many. But the American extreme right has been growing steadily in number and influence since the 1990s with the rise of patriot militias. Following 9/11, conspiracy theorists found fresh life; and in virulent reaction to the first black US president, militant racists have come out of the woodwork.
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amazing. I want to recommend it to everyone.
- By Charlie Dubou on 05-13-18
By: David Neiwert
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Profile of a Nation
- Trump’s Mind, America’s Soul
- By: Bandy X. Lee
- Narrated by: Virtual Voice
- Length: 7 hrs and 23 mins
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An unprecedented report for unprecedented times, Profile of a Nation: Trump’s Mind, America’s Soul is a unique and timely accomplishment by one of America’s leading intellectuals. Dr. Bandy Lee’s previous New York Times bestseller, The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 37 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President, opened the door to understanding the Trump presidency from a mental health perspective and has been published in many countries and languages. This new book goes beyond Donald Trump to explaining the followers who elevated him and the nation that tolerated ...
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An Analysis That could have saved the Nation
- By Tom on 11-17-24
By: Bandy X. Lee
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The Toddler in Chief
- What Donald Trump Teaches Us about the Modern Presidency
- By: Daniel W. Drezner
- Narrated by: Peter Berkrot
- Length: 7 hrs and 4 mins
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In April 2017, Daniel W. Drezner began curating every example he could find of a Trump ally describing the president like a toddler. So far, he's collected more than one thousand tweets - a rate of more than one a day. In The Toddler-in-Chief, Drezner draws on these examples to take listeners through the different dimensions of Trump's infantile behavior, from temper tantrums to poor impulse control to the possibility that the President has had too much screen time. How much damage can really be done by a giant man-baby?
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thought it would be a lot funnier
- By Frau Holle on 06-25-21
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The Big Truth
- Upholding Democracy in the Age of “The Big Lie”
- By: Major Garrett, David Becker
- Narrated by: Kent Klineman
- Length: 10 hrs and 43 mins
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Major Garrett and David Becker completely upend The Big Lie that has infected the Far Right with firsthand stories of election officials like Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and Bucks County, Pennsylvania, election director Thomas Freitag. And they reveal the concrete evidence proving that 2020 may have been the most secure US election ever. Garrett and Becker lay bare the methods being undertaken right now to undercut faith, belief, and effectiveness of elections, identifying the places where the most dire actions have been taken since 2020.
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Important but repetative
- By Brennan Roy on 11-11-22
By: Major Garrett, and others
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The Flag and the Cross
- White Christian Nationalism and the Threat to American Democracy
- By: Samuel L. Perry, Philip S. Gorski, Jemar Tisby - foreword
- Narrated by: Keith Sellon-Wright
- Length: 4 hrs and 43 mins
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Most Americans were shocked by the violence they witnessed at the nation's Capital on January 6th, 2021. And many were bewildered by the images displayed by the insurrectionists: a wooden cross and wooden gallows; "Jesus saves" and "Don't Tread on Me;" Christian flags and Confederate Flags; even a prayer in Jesus's name after storming the Senate chamber. Where some saw a confusing jumble, Philip S. Gorski and Samuel L. Perry saw a familiar ideology: white Christian nationalism.
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could use an accompanying pdf
- By A W on 08-08-22
By: Samuel L. Perry, and others
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White Evangelical Racism
- The Politics of Morality in America
- By: Anthea Butler
- Narrated by: Allyson Johnson
- Length: 3 hrs and 44 mins
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The American political scene today is poisonously divided, and the vast majority of white evangelicals plays a strikingly unified, powerful role in the disunion. These evangelicals raise a starkly consequential question for electoral politics: Why do they claim morality while supporting politicians who act immorally by most Christian measures? In this clear-eyed, hard-hitting chronicle of American religion and politics, Anthea Butler answers that racism is at the core of conservative evangelical activism and power.
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As a White Evangelical ... or Formally So ...
- By Wigwam on 05-09-21
By: Anthea Butler
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It’s Even Worse Than It Looks
- How the American Constitutional System Collided with the New Politics of Extremism
- By: Thomas E. Mann, Norman J. Ornstein
- Narrated by: William Hughes
- Length: 7 hrs and 36 mins
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Hyperpartisanship has gridlocked the American government. Congress' approval ratings are at record lows, and both Democrats and Republicans are disgusted by the government's inability to get anything done. In It's Even Worse Than It Looks, Congressional scholars Thomas E. Mann and Norman J. Ornstein present a grim picture of how party polarization and tribal politics have led Congress - and the United States - to the brink of institutional failure.
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Saw this coming
- By Sandy on 11-20-20
By: Thomas E. Mann, and others
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American Character
- A History of the Epic Struggle Between Individual Liberty and the Common Good
- By: Colin Woodard
- Narrated by: Jonathan Yen
- Length: 9 hrs and 59 mins
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The struggle between individualism and the good of the community as a whole has been the basis of every major disagreement in our history, from the debates at the Constitutional Convention and in the run-up to the Civil War to the fights surrounding the agenda of the Progressives, the New Deal, the civil rights movement, and the Tea Party.
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Biased Misrepresentation
- By Jay Ehret on 06-24-16
By: Colin Woodard
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The Founding Myth
- Why Christian Nationalism Is Un-American
- By: Andrew L. Seidel, Susan Jacoby - Foreword
- Narrated by: Christopher Grove
- Length: 12 hrs and 58 mins
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Do "In God We Trust", the Declaration of Independence, and other historical "evidence" prove that America was founded on Judeo-Christian principles? Are the Ten Commandments the basis for American law? A constitutional attorney dives into the debate about religion's role in America's founding.
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Just 2 Issues
- By VIPER G on 09-01-19
By: Andrew L. Seidel, and others
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The Psychology of Christian Nationalism
- Why People Are Drawn In and How to Talk Across the Divide
- By: Pamela Cooper-White
- Narrated by: Kim Niemi
- Length: 6 hrs and 45 mins
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How do we overcome polarization in American society? How do we advocate for justice when one side won't listen to the other and cycles of outrage escalate? These questions have been pressing for years, but the emergence of a vocal, virulent Christian nationalism has made it even more urgent that we find a way forward. Pamela Cooper-White uncovers the troubling extent of Christian nationalism, explores its deep psychological roots, and discusses ways in which advocates for justice can safely and effectively attempt to talk across the deep divides in our society.
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Fascinating
- By Teresa LaBonte on 09-28-24
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- Che
- 02-05-23
Thought Provoking
The term “thought provoking” gets thrown around a lot. But this is perhaps the most thought-provoking book I’ve ever read. I’m not sure I totally agree with his argument that the Founding Era America should be viewed as a totally different nation. Why can’t we just call the Civil War and Reconstruction America the Second Founding? Anyway, this book has made me think harder than any book I’ve ever read and question long-held beliefs. If that’s not worth five stars, I’m not sure what is.
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- Kindle Customer
- 07-02-22
important
wonderful insights into the origins of our discontents with some good and important recommendations on how to move forward. But very repetitive. Bring your patience. it will be worth it.
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- Dennis Brown
- 01-09-23
SCOTUS
This is the best summary of our constitutional history that I have ever read. Thank you for educating me.
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- Jason Baumbach
- 01-30-24
A Necessary Book.
When America someday wakes up to this book's premise, and Americans are comfortable with this author's reality, America will finally be the America blacks deserve and the America whites pretend it already is. Bring on reparations, AKA, reconstruction -- take three.
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- Laurie Shentalevenn
- 10-09-22
Loved It
I especially like how the book draws together events that otherwise seemed singular, but instead were historically related, cause and effect, like beads on a string. It makes you think about things you thought you already knew.
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- D. Speidel
- 11-21-22
Insightful and brilliant
The author is a great reader with the voice of a podcast star and the book was compelling and enlightening. This book makes a deliberate and systematic argument as to why our traditional ‘standard story’ of the founding of our nation based upon the Declaration of Independence and constitution constricts our ability to move forward appropriately as a nation. The book importantly offers a clear and compelling alternative story emphasizing the Civil War and reconstruction as the true origins of how we (in particular those of us who passively accept the standard story but are against racism) can move forward with a notion of positive heritage and from find consistency in working to achieve justice a nation, in particular racial justice.
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- Buretto
- 08-17-22
A lot of truth, but it does drone on
An interesting, and quite credible, interpretation of the founding documents of the country, and their intent. The book does tend to become repetitive a bit, but the theme is strong. Often upbraided for perceived hypocrisy, perhaps the Declaration and Constitution stated something completely different. And those core beliefs were repudiated in the Civil War, not by the Confederacy, but by Lincoln’s USA (ultimately). Listeners will recognize why “Union” is a problematic term. The single best takeaway is the goal: Justice over Unity.
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- francesgt
- 11-04-22
history in a different light
His perspective is very interesting , I learned a lot from the concept of this book
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- Tara
- 02-17-24
Enlightening, hopeful and elegant
From word one, this audio book put me in a comfortable place to learn. The author narrates in a soothing and calm tone. I absolutely loved every second of it
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- dennis a durkin
- 09-18-22
Excellent
You can't say better than when it was finished you wish there was more. in this day and age, the hearing what Professor Roosevelt has to say is exceedingly well spent. I recommend his book without reservation and enthusiastic applause.
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