Episodes

  • 417: Healing from Birth Trauma to “Unveiling Motherhood: Poems of Postpartum Resilience”

    417: Healing from Birth Trauma to “Unveiling Motherhood: Poems of Postpartum Resilience”
    May 19 2025
    Sharing our stories helps more people process and understand their experiences. Today’s episode features another resilient guest using her difficult journey to help others. Join us to hear Talia’s story. Talia Nepper is the proud mom of two young children and a passionate artist whose creative journey has been vital to her healing. While she works as a web developer to support her family, her art, advocacy, and mental health journey define her true passions. Her motherhood journey has been shaped by her experiences with postpartum depression, anxiety, OCD, and rage. These challenges led her to discover the transformative power of art therapy, trauma therapy, and support through local postpartum groups, family, and friends. Talia has become an outspoken advocate for mental health, with a particular focus on breaking the stigma around postpartum struggles. Recently, Talia embraced her identity within the LGBTQ+ community, further expanding her sense of self. Navigating her divorce is a process that continues to deepen her journey of self-discovery and healing. She is the author of Unveiling Motherhood: Poems of Postpartum Resilience, a collection of poetry and artwork that reflects her raw and honest experiences with pregnancy, birth, and the often-overlooked realities of postpartum life. Through her body of work, Talia hopes to offer support, solidarity, and empowerment to others facing similar struggles. Show Highlights: Talia’s story of her first pregnancy with Liam (now 5), which was unexpected but very wanted Anxiety plagued her throughout the pregnancy because of her autoimmune issues, her initial doctor’s negative outlook, and pressure to have a natural birth. At 42 weeks, she FINALLY was in labor at a birthing center with a midwife. As problems popped up, she was transported to a hospital, and the issues began to mount. Finally, her son was born via C-section at 10.5 lbs. and 23 in. long! Sepsis, medications, no realization of what was happening, and not being seen or heard Trouble bonding with her newborn son Finding a therapist who was a good match and how Talia began exploring art therapy Acknowledging postpartum depression, rage, anxiety, and feelings of shame and failure Talia’s second pregnancy (at only 9 months postpartum) with Luna (now 3) brought difficulties in different ways. Feeling resentment about a pregnancy Talia wasn’t ready for The birth: a planned C-section, delivery, and postpartum anxiety after birth Talia’s book is the best creative outlet for her self-expression and healing. Finding healing through therapy and finally being seen and heard again Resources: Connect with Talia Nepper: Instagram, Unveiling Motherhood: Poems of Postpartum Resilience, and Facebook Call the National Maternal Mental Health Hotline at 1-833-TLC-MAMA or visit cdph.ca.gov Please find resources in English and Spanish at Postpartum Support International, or by phone/text at 1-800-944-4773. There are many free resources, like online support groups, peer mentors, a specialist provider directory, and perinatal mental health training for therapists, physicians, nurses, doulas, and anyone who wants to be more supportive in offering services. You can also follow PSI on social media: Instagram, Facebook, and most other platforms. Visit www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/ for information on the grief course. Visit my website, www.wellmindperinatal.com, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today! If you are a California resident looking for a therapist in perinatal mental health, email me about openings for private pay clients! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    39 mins
  • 416: Behind the Sessions: Grief and Identity When IVF Doesn’t End with a Baby

    416: Behind the Sessions: Grief and Identity When IVF Doesn’t End with a Baby
    May 15 2025
    A wide range of perinatal mental health topics come up in my therapy practice, including issues with conception, birth, postpartum, and much more. I frequently see people go through multiple rounds of IVF and other assisted reproductive technologies through years of struggles to have a child. Often overlooked in these attempts is the impact when these efforts do not result in a baby, and this experience needs to be acknowledged and discussed. Multiple attempts with unsuccessful outcomes can be the end of their journey to have a baby. Tough decisions have to be made when age, mental and physical health, and financial resources force an end to their hopes and dreams. Today’s episode focuses on the intense grief and profound identity shifts that can occur when all of those best efforts do not result in a baby. Show Highlights: There is no timeline for the grief and depression someone may feel when their motherhood dream ends. People go into the IVF process believing that persistence WILL result in a child. The relationship with your own body becomes complicated, especially when there are no answers. Dealing with well-intentioned people with unending advice adds to the pressure you feel. This kind of grief becomes invisible. Being a mother might be intertwined with your sense of purpose and identity in the world. Profound, life-altering grief can accompany your loss of identity. Therapy can be helpful and offer you a safe space. Grief does not have to be a hopeless process. It’s okay to feel what you feel. Dr. Kat’s words of hope to those who are grieving Resources: Call the National Maternal Mental Health Hotline at 1-833-TLC-MAMA or visit cdph.ca.gov Please find resources in English and Spanish at Postpartum Support International, or by phone/text at 1-800-944-4773. There are many free resources, like online support groups, peer mentors, a specialist provider directory, and perinatal mental health training for therapists, physicians, nurses, doulas, and anyone who wants to be more supportive in offering services. You can also follow PSI on social media: Instagram, Facebook, and most other platforms Visit www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/ for information on the grief course. Visit my website, www.wellmindperinatal.com, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today! If you are a California resident looking for a therapist in perinatal mental health, email me about openings for private pay clients! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    35 mins
  • 415: An Inside Look at the ”So Glad You Asked” Podcast with Dr. Ruta Nonacs and Allie Hales

    415: An Inside Look at the ”So Glad You Asked” Podcast with Dr. Ruta Nonacs and Allie Hales
    May 12 2025
    We just celebrated Mother’s Day, which may not have been what you expected. It can be a complicated day when people don’t show up or recognize you as you deserve. I want to acknowledge the complex feelings that come with Mother’s Day and say that you aren’t alone in experiencing those emotions. Whatever your Mother's Day brought you, I hope you feel recognized and supported. Today, we are bringing you another great episode during Maternal Mental Health Month as we uncover the purpose of a new podcast filling a gap for many people. Join us to learn more about this vital resource! Allie Hales, a mom of four, is passionate about making reliable, relevant information available for moms like herself. She graduated from the J. Reuben Clark Law School at Brigham Young University and is a member of the Massachusetts Bar. She serves on Brigham and Women’s Hospital’s Newborn Medicine and Reproductive Health Advisory Board, Newton-Wellesley Hospital’s Maternal Services Council, and is actively involved with the Boston Center for Endometriosis. Allie grew up in the suburbs of Boston and currently lives in Baltimore with her four children and her husband, Riley, a resident in anesthesia at Johns Hopkins Hospital. Dr. Ruta Nonacs completed a perinatal and reproductive psychiatry fellowship at Massachusetts General Hospital. She is a clinical instructor at Harvard Medical School, a senior psychiatrist with the Center for Women’s Mental Health at Massachusetts General Hospital, and the creator and editor-in-chief of their website,⁠ ⁠⁠womensmentalhealth.org⁠. She, with Allie Hales, co-hosts the new podcast,⁠ So Glad You Asked⁠. Dr. Ruta’s work has been published in numerous scientific journals and books, and she is the author of⁠ A Deeper Shade of Blue: A Woman's Guide to Recognizing and Treating Depression in Her Childbearing Years. ⁠ Show Highlights: Highlights of Dr. Ruta’s path to her current work Allie’s lived experience in her mental health journey and her connection to Dr. Ruta Barriers to getting information and accessing treatment The importance of lived experience in developing solutions and strategies Moms, questions, and a new podcast Giving a voice to “regular moms” and providing evidence-based solutions Major topics planned for upcoming podcast episodes (Dr. Ruta and Allie have a huge list!) The connection between the podcast and a resource hub at ⁠womensmentalhealth.org⁠ Accessible information IS preventative. The podcast schedule and plans for the first season Dr. Ruta and Allie’s hopes and dreams for their podcast to empower and support women Resources: Connect with Dr. Ruta Nonacs and Allie Hales:⁠ Women's Mental Health website⁠,⁠ Instagram⁠,⁠ So Glad You Asked⁠ podcast, and⁠ A Deeper Shade of Blue: A Woman's Guide to Recognizing and Treating Depression in Her Childbearing Years⁠. Call the National Maternal Mental Health Hotline at 1-833-TLC-MAMA or visit⁠ cdph.ca.gov⁠ Please find resources in English and Spanish at⁠ Postpartum Support International⁠, or by phone/text at 1-800-944-4773. There are many free resources, like online support groups, peer mentors, a specialist provider directory, and perinatal mental health training for therapists, physicians, nurses, doulas, and anyone who wants to be more supportive in offering services. You can also follow PSI on social media:⁠ Instagram⁠,⁠ Facebook⁠, and most other platforms Visit⁠ www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/⁠ for information on the grief course. Visit my website,⁠ www.wellmindperinatal.com⁠, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today! If you are a California resident looking for a therapist in perinatal mental health, ⁠email me⁠ about openings for private pay clients! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    51 mins
  • 414: The Motherload: Episodes from the Brink of Motherhood" with Author Sarah Hoover

    414: The Motherload: Episodes from the Brink of Motherhood" with Author Sarah Hoover
    May 5 2025
    This week is Maternal Mental Health Week, and many organizations are joining us in being as loud as possible to spread the word that these conditions do exist, that mothers need support, and that resources are available. Sharing people’s stories on this podcast is how I help spread the message, and today’s episode focuses on Sarah’s motherhood story and the memoir she has written to help others. Join us! Sarah Hoover is a writer, cultural critic, and former Gagosian director whose work spans art, fashion, motherhood, and feminism. She just released a new book, The Motherload: Episodes from the Brink of Motherhood, a beautiful, vulnerable, raw, and very real story of her motherhood experience. Her writing highlights some ways that we, as a society, are failing mothers, and Sarah’s writing shares what she went through in her pregnancy, birth, and postpartum journey. Her debut memoir is a darkly funny, unfiltered critique of modern motherhood, praised by Oprah Daily as a “long overdue reality check.” After earning degrees from NYU and Columbia, Sarah built a career in the art world before turning to writing. Her essays on motherhood, identity, and cultural expectations have appeared in multiple publications, and she is the co-founder of the accelerator committee at American Valley Theater, in addition to serving on the board of the Art Production Fund. She makes her home in Manhattan with her husband and two children. Show Highlights: Sarah’s story of her first pregnancy triggered memories and disconnection from her baby A “perfect storm of triggers”! Sarah’s situation: She wasn’t enjoying anything about motherhood and lied to everyone with parroted responses about being “fine.” Rebuilding her identity without her career Instead of joy, Sarah felt depleted, stuck, and unseen. A breakdown of Sarah’s relationship with her mother and her views of motherhood Finding support and help—finally! Huge gaps in the questionnaire for postpartum moms—we can do better! Breaking down the wall of shame to be honest and vulnerable It’s healthy to complain! Share your feelings! Healing and finding connection with her son Sarah’s second pregnancy, when she was determined to do things differently and advocate for herself An overview of Sarah’s book—it’s not just for moms! Resources: Connect with Sarah Hoover: Website, Instagram, and The Motherload: Episodes from the Brink of Motherhood Call the National Maternal Mental Health Hotline at 1-833-TLC-MAMA or visit cdph.ca.gov Please find resources in English and Spanish at Postpartum Support International, or by phone/text at 1-800-944-4773. There are many free resources, like online support groups, peer mentors, a specialist provider directory, and perinatal mental health training for therapists, physicians, nurses, doulas, and anyone who wants to be more supportive in offering services. You can also follow PSI on social media: Instagram, Facebook, and most other platforms Visit www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/ for information on the grief course. Visit my website, www.wellmindperinatal.com, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today! If you are a California resident looking for a therapist in perinatal mental health, email me about openings for private pay clients! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    53 mins
  • 413: Encore! In Conversation with Alanis Morissette and Postpartum Support International

    413: Encore! In Conversation with Alanis Morissette and Postpartum Support International
    May 1 2025
    Today, May 1, is the first day of Maternal Mental Health Awareness Month. I’m bringing back this special episode from last year; it’s a listener favorite, one of my favorites, and one of our most popular downloads. I’m deeply honored to share my interview with Grammy Award-winning singer-songwriter, thought leader, and wholeness advocate, Alanis Morissette! She is joined by the president and CEO of Postpartum Support International, Dr. Wendy Davis. Alanis has given much of her time, heart, energy, and effort to raise awareness about maternal mental health. In our conversation, she shares vulnerable and enlightening peeks into her personal experience, and her feelings mirror what many suffering women feel. Alanis found PSI as a resource when she was dealing with perinatal mental health challenges, and she has openly shared about the value of PSI resources while on tour. In addition to being a long-time, powerful presence in the music world, she has become an equally influential advocate for mental health. She has been vocal about experiencing postpartum depression, or “postpartum activity,” as she has referred to it. In our conversation, she shares like never before what her experience was like, how it impacted her life, and how she has found her way to healing. Being in the public eye as a well-known performer has brought a whole other level of pressure and scrutiny to Alanis’ life experiences under the bright–and sometimes stinging–light of celebrity. Dr. Wendy Davis began as a volunteer with PSI in 1997, became the executive director in 2009, and later became the president and CEO. She was drawn to this work after healing from postpartum depression and has become a passionate advocate and leader in the world of perinatal mental health. I’ve been privileged to see Wendy in action at PSI and work closely with her in my role as the Board Chair. Her heart-centered and help-centered approach to leadership has grown PSI into the leading perinatal mental health non-profit in the world today. Show Highlights: ● Alanis’ struggle to balance the people-pleasing life of a celebrity with “the dark swamp of depression” that nobody wanted to see or hear ● Being a high-achieving perfectionist who is self-reliant and autonomous puts a person at a greater risk for postpartum depression. ● Figuring out the archetype of “mom” is a lifelong journey. ● Understanding how the 90s rock and roll scene was a strongly patriarchal environment that left Alanis feeling more isolated and less connected ● Alanis’ experience with anger, rage, panic attacks, and a loss of identity ● Tenderness, love, and empowerment in motherhood ● Our immense gratitude for Alanis’ impact as a fierce advocate and champion of PSI’s work and helpful resources Resources: Connect with Alanis Morissette: Find out more about Alanis’ music and events on her⁠ Website⁠; follow Alanis on social media:⁠ Instagram⁠,⁠ Facebook⁠, and⁠ YouTube⁠ Call the National Maternal Mental Health Hotline at 1-833-TLC-MAMA or visit cdph.ca.gov Please find resources in English and Spanish at Postpartum Support International, or by phone/text at 1-800-944-4773. There are many free resources, like online support groups, peer mentors, a specialist provider directory, and perinatal mental health training for therapists, physicians, nurses, doulas, and anyone who wants to be more supportive in offering services. You can also follow PSI on social media: Instagram, Facebook, and most other platforms Visit www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/ for information on the grief course. Visit my website, www.wellmindperinatal.com, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today! If you are a California resident looking for a therapist in perinatal mental health, email me about openings for private pay clients! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    1 hr and 32 mins
  • 412: From Postpartum Depression to Creating Connections for Moms with Allison Kushner, founder of BeeKyn

    412: From Postpartum Depression to Creating Connections for Moms with Allison Kushner, founder of BeeKyn
    Apr 28 2025
    It’s always uplifting to hear how some people are inspired to turn the worst experience into something positive to help others. Join us to hear Alli’s story of postpartum depression, healing, and a remarkable avenue of support and connection for other moms. Alli Kushner is an entrepreneur, community builder, and passionate advocate for parents navigating the complexities of modern life. As the founder of⁠ BeeKyn⁠, an innovative platform that reimagines how families connect through meaningful playdates, Alli is on a mission to make parenthood less isolating and more fulfilling. Alli is the mother of two young girls and shares her deeply personal journey through postpartum depression. The challenges she faced became the opportunity to create a supportive space for parents everywhere in BeeKyn. Show Highlights: Alli’s story: what she expected vs. her reality in becoming a mom An unexpected identity crisis Pregnancy problems that threw “the plan” out the window for Alli’s first pregnancy Knowing things weren’t “right” Alli’s recognition of “baby blues” (which later turned into PPD) The gap in Ob-gyn and pediatric care when a healthy baby arrives, but mom is not okay Alli’s experience in returning to work earlier than necessary, because that was the world she understood and could control Feeling numb, angry, and unsure about motherhood, just wanting to get away (for the first six months) Feeling like “everyone would be better off without me” How Alli’s husband insisted that she get professional help because he didn’t know how to help her Alli’s “Aha moment” on an outing in NYC, realizing that this is “not normal” How Alli noticed the slow unfolding of improvement as the result of a daily therapy/rehab program Sharing her story helped Alli realize the need for more attention on postpartum depression and the feelings of isolation and loneliness The benefits of BeeKyn’s platform for families Resources: Connect with Alli Kushner and BeeKyn:⁠ Website⁠ and⁠ LinkedIn⁠ Call the National Maternal Mental Health Hotline at 1-833-TLC-MAMA or visit⁠ cdph.ca.gov⁠ Please find resources in English and Spanish at⁠ Postpartum Support International⁠, or by phone/text at 1-800-944-4773. There are many free resources, like online support groups, peer mentors, a specialist provider directory, and perinatal mental health training for therapists, physicians, nurses, doulas, and anyone who wants to be more supportive in offering services. You can also follow PSI on social media:⁠ Instagram⁠,⁠ Facebook⁠, and most other platforms Visit⁠ www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/⁠ for information on the grief course. Visit my website,⁠ www.wellmindperinatal.com⁠, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today! If you are a California resident looking for a therapist in perinatal mental health, email me⁠ about openings for private pay clients! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    56 mins
  • 411: “NORMALIZE IT: Upending the Silence, Stigma, and Shame That Shape Women’s Lives”

    411: “NORMALIZE IT: Upending the Silence, Stigma, and Shame That Shape Women’s Lives”
    Apr 21 2025
    It’s no secret that silence, stigma, and shame surround many of the major moments of grief and loss in women’s lives, especially during pregnancy loss. Today’s guest shares her personal story, along with her professional perspective as a psychologist, author, and respected voice in social media. Join us to hear the conversation. Dr. Jessica Zucker is a Los Angeles-based psychologist specializing in reproductive health, and she holds advanced degrees from NYU and Harvard. She’s the author of the award-winning book, I Had A Miscarriage: A Memoir, A Movement and is the creator of the viral hashtag, I Had A Miscarriage Campaign. She has been featured on NPR, CNN, the Today Show, and Good Morning America, and her writing has appeared in the NY Times, Washington Post, NY Magazine, Vogue, Harvard Business Review, and others. Today’s conversation focuses on Jessica’s second book, Normalize It: Upending the Silence, Stigma, and Shame That Shape Women’s Lives, newly released on April 22, 2025. Jessica shares her personal experience through miscarriage and a breast cancer diagnosis, and how her motherhood journey has been profoundly impacted by silence, stigma, and shame. Show Highlights: Jessica’s inspiration to write her most recent book, Normalize It Jessica’s traumatic miscarriage experience that changed the course of her life The purpose behind Normalize It, which offers a compassionate invitation to women Our culture teaches women to have silence, stigma, and shame. If we ALL spoke our truth . . .(just imagine the possibilities!) Common platitudes minimize our pain and can alienate and isolate those who are hurting. Jessica’s breast cancer experience compared to her miscarriage experience Why Jessica doesn’t like the term “warrior” when referring to her resilience Living with tamoxifen, which blocks estrogen and brings early menopause symptoms What the research reveals around silence, stigma, and shame Resources: Connect with Dr. Jessica Zucker: Website, Instagram, Normalize It: Upending the Silence, Stigma, and Shame That Shape Women’s Lives, and I Had A Miscarriage Call the National Maternal Mental Health Hotline at 1-833-TLC-MAMA or visit cdph.ca.gov Please find resources in English and Spanish at Postpartum Support International, or by phone/text at 1-800-944-4773. There are many free resources, like online support groups, peer mentors, a specialist provider directory, and perinatal mental health training for therapists, physicians, nurses, doulas, and anyone who wants to be more supportive in offering services. You can also follow PSI on social media: Instagram, Facebook, and most other platforms Visit www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/ for information on the grief course. Visit my website, www.wellmindperinatal.com, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today! If you are a California resident looking for a therapist in perinatal mental health, email me about openings for private pay clients! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    49 mins
  • ENCORE: Good Moms Have Scary Thoughts with Karen Kleiman, MSW, LCSW

    ENCORE: Good Moms Have Scary Thoughts with Karen Kleiman, MSW, LCSW
    Apr 17 2025
    Instead of a normal Behind the Sessions episode today, I’m featuring a great interview with Karen Kleiman from a previous show as we approach May, Maternal Mental Health Month. Maternal mental health needs a massive spotlight on it because it’s gone under-recognized and undersupported for far too long. Karen Kleiman is a well-known international maternal mental health expert with over 35 years of experience. She is an advocate and the author of several groundbreaking books on postpartum depression and anxiety. Her work has been featured in multiple media outlets, including local and national TV, magazines, radio shows, and health websites. Karen founded The Postpartum Stress Center in 1988 and The Karen Kleiman Training Center in 2022. Their work is dedicated to the advancement of clinical expertise and therapeutic strategies for the treatment of perinatal mood and anxiety disorders. Her advanced trainings are heavily influenced by The Art of Holding Perinatal Women in Distress™ model of intervention, created by Karen. She’s here to discuss intrusive thoughts and how to determine when intervention is necessary. Join us to learn more! Show Highlights: Karen’s passion for writing, which is still there after 14 books! Karen’s purpose in being a compassionate voice to others through her books So many women are still suffering without the support they need and deserve! The harsh reality of the pandemic’s effects on new moms The wide range of scary thoughts: “What’s normal and what’s not?” The truth: Not all moms feel good about motherhood. “How do I know my scary thoughts are TOO scary?” (How to measure a mom’s distress) Fact: Not all intrusive thoughts are OCD-related. The biggest problem: Moms aren’t telling us how bad they feel. Karen’s book, What About Us?, and its guidance on navigating relationships, which ends up being primarily the woman’s responsibility Karen’s best advice for new moms Resources: Connect with Karen Kleiman and The Postpartum Stress Center: Website, Facebook, Instagram, What About Us?, and Good Moms Have Scary Thoughts Call the National Maternal Mental Health Hotline at 1-833-TLC-MAMA or visit cdph.ca.gov Please find resources in English and Spanish at Postpartum Support International, or by phone/text at 1-800-944-4773. There are many free resources, like online support groups, peer mentors, a specialist provider directory, and perinatal mental health training for therapists, physicians, nurses, doulas, and anyone who wants to be more supportive in offering services. You can also follow PSI on social media: Instagram, Facebook, and most other platforms Visit www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/ for information on the grief course. Visit my website, www.wellmindperinatal.com, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today! If you are a California resident looking for a therapist in perinatal mental health, email me about openings for private pay clients! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    46 mins
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