Some links from the show:

• Primescan 2
• CDOCS

Episode Index:

Dr. David Hornbrook joins Alan in this throwback episode to talk about lab communication and digital workflow. David is convinced that the key to becoming a better dentist is communicating and having a good relationship with your dental lab.

• David is REALLY glad to be back to in person teaching!
• David explains how he became such a lab and materials focused clinician
• "Knowing exactly what they're doing in the lab has made me a better dentist."
• Do you invite your lab to ask for more information and critique your work?
• Digital workflow isn't an invitation to be sloppy. PVS is way better for someone who doesn't pay attention to details
• What's the benefit of visiting the lab?
• Do you know who is creating your restorations?
• Your lab techs know what kind of dentist you are!
• Let's go to Lab Day in Chicago!
• Do you do CE with your lab tech(s)?
• Are we moving to implants too quickly?
• Bridges are legitimate treatment in a lot of cases and implant are not always the best choice.
• The greatest trick for strengthening a zirconia bridge!
• Becoming David Hornbrook
• Photography vs. "Instagram Photography"
• Patient expectations and "ideal" dentistry
• Weighing minimally invasive techniques against creating room for materials
• Informed consent and how the dentist "spins" the treatment
• David's recommendations for new dentists:
  • find a mentor
  • eliminate the undesirable procedures from your practice as soon as possible
  • realize that you're going to be a dentist for a long time
  • "hurry up and slow down"
  • Be uncompromising

Some links from the show:

• Vedder Society
• David Hornbrook's courses (Utah Valley Dental Lab)
• The Very Dental Facebook group

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!"

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

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Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

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The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

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Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

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CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

Zach and Kevin are once again joined by Dr. Tarun Agarwal and Dr. Alan Mead to talk about things we've changed our minds about. Tarun brings another surprise to the guys when he talks about how he's changed his mind about retirement savings!

Some links from the show:

• 3D Dentists

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook," McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb."

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

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Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “verydental10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

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The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

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Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

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CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

Mohamed is joined by Alan Mead to talk about how the choices you make in the very beginning of your career have a very heavy influence on the rest of your career.

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!"

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

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Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

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The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

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Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

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CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

Al is joined once again by Dr. Dawn Grimes. She was on a couple months ago and we didn't get to some of the stuff that Al wanted to talk about...so we're here for round 2!

One of these things is the lie that we tell ourselves about time. See if this one seems familiar to you:

"Once x is done, I will have more time for y."

And no matter what, once you free up some time, other things will grow to fill that time.

Some of what we discussed:

• Evaluating wasted/sunk time
• Why the Matrix movies are not action movies at all
  • "There are days that I just want the steak."
• We don't want reality and we often won't see reality
• Instagram and overtreatment
• You're going to have to replace things over time
• Root canals don't cause cancer
• "Blushing pulp"
• "That tooth didn't hurt until you worked on it."
• Better case acceptance = don't care if they do the treatment
• Play hard to get
• You cannot care more than the patient does
• Patients aren't doing care for their dentist. Don't work on patients that are "doing it for you."
• Diagnose and explain like Spock...emotionless

Some links from the show:

• Jerry RDH's Instagram
• Melissa Zettler's Instagram

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!"

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

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Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

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The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

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Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

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CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

Kevin and Zach are joined by Dr. Tarun Agarwal and Al to talk about what he's changed his mind about in businss. Tarun offers the idea that you should self finance your patient...you should be the bank. This goes against A LOT of advice you'll hear in other places. It's a great conversation from an interesting guy!

Some links from the show:

• 3D Dentists
• Marathon Candy Bar
• Sugar Babies

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook," McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb."

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

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Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “verydental10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

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The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

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Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

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CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!

Social media is a blessing and a curse. Yes, it's self administered poison and yes, it can be bad for your mental health.

So...you should quit. Or never start.

But...if you choose to use it, you should curate what you see. Al gives some tips on this.

Al's Doomscrolling Playlist

• https://www.instagram.com/kennyg/
• https://www.instagram.com/evidence_based_endo_memes/
• https://www.instagram.com/mrdavehill/
• https://www.instagram.com/tonybaker/
• https://www.instagram.com/leelochip/
• https://www.instagram.com/danlamorte/
• https://www.instagram.com/mrnigelng/
• https://www.instagram.com/iamj3po/
• https://www.instagram.com/tropicalfishnyc/
• https://www.instagram.com/vintagevibe/
• https://www.instagram.com/foodartchefs/
• https://www.instagram.com/pastrychef_am/
• https://www.instagram.com/cedricgrolet/
• https://www.instagram.com/amauryguichon/

Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," Hornbrook" or "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!"

The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you’d like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us!

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Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you’ll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code “VERYDENTAL10” you’ll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time!

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The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist!

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Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products!

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CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you’ll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!