It Wasn't Roaring, It Was Weeping
Interpreting the Language of Our Fathers Without Repeating Their Stories
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Lisa-Jo Baker
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Lisa-Jo Baker
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An honest and lyrical coming-of-age memoir of growing up in South Africa at the height of apartheid, and an invitation to recognize and refuse to repeat the sins of our fathers—from the bestselling author of Never Unfriended
“Heartfelt, emotionally charged reflections . . . [a] bracing memoir.”—Kirkus Review
“Important. Riveting. Unforgettable . . . a profoundly captivating story that can profoundly change your own story.”—Ann Voskamp, New York Times bestselling author of WayMaker
Born White in the heart of Zululand during the racial apartheid, Lisa-Jo Baker longed to write a new future for her children—a longing that set her on a journey to understand where she fit into a story of violence and faith, history and race. Before marriage and motherhood, she came to the United States to study to become a human rights advocate. When she naïvely walked right into America’s own turbulent racial landscape, Baker experienced the kind of painful awakening that is both individual and universal, personal and social. Yet years would go by before she traced this American trauma back to her own South African past.
Baker was a teenager when her mother died of cancer, leaving her with her father. Though they shared a language of faith and justice, she often feared him, unaware that his fierce temper had deep roots in a family’s and a nation’s pain. Decades later, old wounds reopened when she found herself spiraling into a terrifying version of her father, screaming herself hoarse at her son. Only then did Baker realize that to go forward—to refuse to repeat the sins of our fathers—we must first go back.
With a story that stretches from South Africa’s outback to Washington, D.C., It Wasn’t Roaring, It Was Weeping is a courageous look at inherited hurts and prejudices, and a hope-filled example for all who feel lost in life or worried that they’re too off course to make the necessary corrections. Baker’s story shows that it’s never too late to be free.
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“Using her father’s life as a point of departure, the South Africa-born author [Lisa-Jo Baker] offers heartfelt, emotionally charged reflections on their apartheid-riven homeland. . . . Throughout, Baker seeks to understand the many sins of both her homeland and her adopted land, and she makes a tender effort to forgive her father. . . . A painful, lyrical, and bracing memoir.”—Kirkus Review
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Will Johnnie Veal—convicted of the murder of two police officers in 1970—be granted parole after 50 years in prison? How can he convince the parole board he’s reformed when he insists he’s innocent? What is prison time even supposed to accomplish? These are the questions that propel The Parole Room forward as it builds toward Johnnie’s 20th parole hearing—after 19 rejections.
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Enlightening story & a must read
- By Patsy on 10-07-24
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Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World
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The Mongol army led by Genghis Khan subjugated more lands and people in 25 years than the Romans did in 400. In nearly every country the Mongols conquered, they brought an unprecedented rise in cultural communication, expanded trade, and a blossoming of civilization.
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Golden Horde/Platinum Listen
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Flannery O'Connor and the Scandal of Faith
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Across six revealing lectures, Professor Jessica Hooten Wilson will introduce you to one of the 20th century’s most fascinating and divisive writers in Flannery O’Connor and the Scandal of Faith. Beginning with an overview of her brief but remarkable life, Professor Wilson will then take you through an exploration of themes in O’Connor’s work and the hallmarks of her literary style. You’ll get a clearer picture of O’Connor’s historical and geographical context while digging into how her stories can transcend time and place.
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Fascinating life cut short
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Episodes
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In Episodes, lifelong best friends Kat and Mara take listeners on an unfiltered journey through friendship, mental illness, and survival. Kat, a successful professional, is preparing for marriage and motherhood. On her fourth round of IVF, it happened—a frantic call to Mara. Mara comes over to find Kat, her friend of 25 years—the one who'd always been levelheaded, hilarious, and over-the-top thoughtful—trying to jump through a window.
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Just listen!
- By AJ on 11-17-24
By: Mara Altman, and others
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Heroes Behind Headlines
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How did DEA agents orchestrate the capture of one of the world’s most wanted weapons dealers? How does an all-female, unarmed group of rangers stop poachers from killing South Africa’s most majestic wild animals? And how did a scrappy crew of soldiers help desperate Afghans escape Kabul during the Taliban’s rapid takeover? Welcome to Heroes Behind Headlines: Only the Brave, where host Ralph Pezzullo takes you on deep dives into extraordinary true stories, told to you by the experts and the brave men and women who lived them.
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Great interview format
- By Ronald Gauvin on 11-21-24
By: Ralph Pezzullo
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Evil Has a Name
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For his victims, for their families and for the investigators tasked with finding him, the senselessness and brutality of the Golden State Killer's acts were matched only by the powerlessness they felt at failing to uncover his identity. Then, on April 24, 2018, authorities arrested 72-year-old Joseph James DeAngelo at his home in Citrus Heights, Calif., based on DNA evidence linked to the crimes. Amazingly, it seemed, evil finally had a name. Please note: This work contains descriptions of violent crime and sexual assault and may not be suitable for all listeners.
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Audible Raises The Bar On True Crime Genre
- By R. Squyres on 11-16-18
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In 1992, the deadliest year in Chicago’s history, seven-year-old Dantrell Davis was shot and killed in front of his elementary school inside the public housing complex Cabrini-Green. What happened to Dantrell led to a truce among Chicago’s gangs, but it also ignited a national panic about poverty and violence in America’s cities. Dantrell’s name would soon be used to demolish all of Chicago’s high-rise public housing, displacing tens of thousands of low-income families.
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Chicago Housibg
- By Ruby on 11-21-24
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The Demon Next Door
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Best-selling author Bryan Burrough recently made a shocking discovery: The small town of Temple, Texas, where he had grown up, had harbored a dark secret. One of his high school classmates, Danny Corwin, was a vicious serial killer. In this chilling tale, Burrough raises important questions of whether serial killers can be recognized before they kill or rehabilitated after they do. It is also a story of Texas politics and power that led the good citizens of the town of Temple to enable a demon who was their worst nightmare.
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Odd narration choice
- By Amanda Fredericks on 03-08-19
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Dear Cousin: The Stalking of Susan Fensten
- By: Ventureland
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Dear Cousin: The Stalking of Susan Fensten is the gripping true story of one woman's quest for long lost family. After the deaths of her sister and estranged father, Susan searches for relatives on an early online genealogy forum. When she meets cousins from her grandfather's other family, they're everything she'd hoped for—until it all goes to hell.
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Harrowing Case, Excellent Production
- By C Lopez on 07-12-24
By: Ventureland
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The Autobiography of Malcolm X
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Experience a bold take on this classic autobiography as it’s performed by Oscar-nominated Laurence Fishburne. In this searing classic autobiography, originally published in 1965, Malcolm X, the Muslim leader, firebrand, and Black empowerment activist, tells the extraordinary story of his life and the growth of the Human Rights movement. His fascinating perspective on the lies and limitations of the American dream and the inherent racism in a society that denies its non-White citizens the opportunity to dream, gives extraordinary insight into the most urgent issues of our own time.
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it's Nearly perfect
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The inspiration for the major motion picture Priscilla directed by Sofia Coppola, this New York Times best seller reveals the intimate story of Elvis Presley and Priscilla Presley, told by the woman who lived it.
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What a story!
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In a series of deeply moving and inspiring conversations, host Shereen Marisol Meraji connects with successful women from all walks of life to reveal how they manage their careers and every aspect of their lives. Based on the long-running column from The Cut and New York Magazine.
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Relatable, helpful, and beautifully produced.
- By Anonymous User on 09-07-24
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- Amazon Customer
- 07-09-24
A story for even those whose fathers still wound. A story of the God who pursues, heals, and makes new.
As a daughter still waiting on a father persisting in his brokenness, I was hesitant to read this book, afraid it would temp jealousy and discontent with the way the Author of my story is writing. I need not have worried, Lisa Jo has written a story accessible to us all, about the question we are all asking; "Jesus, don't you care?" I won't spoil it by sharing here, but you must read/listen for the deeply healing and profound answer. (I would recommend listening over reading this one, to have Lisa Jo speaking the languages enhanced so much.)
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- Two Cats & A Dog Realtor
- 05-10-24
The healing of the soul
Most excellent book. I found myself encouraged and challenged in my own life to face my memories, my past with Grace.
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- Greenmanmom
- 05-11-24
Beautiful story of Redemption!
What a deeply painful and beautiful story from start to finish. Every word carefully chosen to help transport us there. Loved every minute! Didn’t want it to end!
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- Mom of 1
- 06-13-24
Beautiful storytelling, and a story of hope.
Lisa-Jo is an amazing storyteller! She transports you right with her, sharing her story from her childhood in South Africa, to law school and life in America. She shares her complicated upbringing, losing her mom in her teens, and being raised by an angry father. The most beautiful part is how God has redeemed her story, and healed her family. This is a must read, especially for those with complicated parent relationships. I highly recommend the Audible version, too, as Lisa-Jo reads it herself.
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- Susie H.
- 09-18-24
The authors command of language
I enjoyed that the author read her own book and that I could connect with it on so many levels, coming from South Africa and living in America, and having lost my parents at 17 years of age. I enjoyed hearing the different accents, which Lisa-Jo is so gifted at doing. Extremely well done!!!!!
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- Penny
- 05-11-24
A radical gift
Lisa Jo’s memoir is storytelling art. The way Lisa Jo time travels you into her story while, at the same time, also somehow transporting you back into your own story…I am amazed. This book is a vulnerable, raw, human and humble look at healing. I am so grateful to Lisa Jo for being brave enough to write it for all of us, for our healing . The audio production was incredible!!! I loved hearing Lis Jo’s accent and hearing her speak occasionally in her native tongue. It added such a deep richness to an already captivating memoir.
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- Laurel Lohman
- 06-05-24
A must read!
I absolutely loved this heartfelt story and the redemption it provides! A must read for anyone with a past!
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- Anonymous User
- 09-29-24
Ten Masterfully Penned Stars
I love almost all books. I’m not critical until asked to be. But this book calls for a critique to number a few of the multitude of reasons I recommend this book to everyone.
1. The lived-out examples of how to fold together a story that requires forgiveness and great grace from Lisa-Jo herself, her little brother Luke who stayed and from Jesus, the one who allowed himself to be crucified and who stayed on the cross till my sins were forgiven, were so poetically put before us people who tend to be self-serving to the point of causing our own hearts and minds great pain by not walking through hard reconciliation. 2. The example put before us isn’t calling anyone to be a doormat and to allow hurts to continue but the readers see how differences in response to pain can both be right; you can stay and you can go- both can work- in order to move forward in your healing during and after traumas.
3. The emotional capturing of the story because it is read by Lisa-Jo herself knowing how to phrase aloud her sentences is profound. Her voice for Dad and prison guards and Dutch and Afrikaans and each time she uses vocabularies of other tongues creates the best rendering of her telling the truth and Truth about God lived out in her journey across an ocean of space and recovery from what happened in her childhood.
4. In sharing her childhood wounding, many are free to acknowledge how they love their parents who wounded them. In this almost unavoidable truth of parenting, child and parent both see that they can pick up peace and share it like the manna found in the wilderness.
5. The assimilating of the horrible things whites have done to black and brown bodies into a language of regret and sorrow is especially helpful for the white reader to learn to pray like Daniel in Ch 9v5 the Bible in that “we have sinned and done wrong. We have been wicked and have rebelled; we have turned away from your commands and laws.” We, as whites, can express deep sorrow and regret though not having done the wrongs of the past ourselves. We learn how to grow in our maturity to be people that listen and say please forgive us. We are often speaking to ones who also aren’t in chattel slavery any longer but we all bear the scars of being humans who racially and then relationally hurt one another.
6. The history learned, plowed up and turned over is good soil for planting health for people and nations. This book teaches through the history of one family what needs to be taught to all-deep and humble forgiveness.
7. This story doesn’t speak of an overnight miracle but a life time of waiting to get answers. The way in which our connectedness to strangers in a neighborhoods that both reject and welcome calls us to examine how we move in the places we live toward others.
8. The mastery of penning sentences is on display here if you overlook every implication in the authors life. There is the richest of imagery that takes you in a trip to South Africa, DC and Washington separately and together, Mass and living rooms and topography you will never stop your toe. There is the alliteration and simile, metaphor and hyperbole, idioms American know and others from Africa explained in some fashion. The vocabulary is precise and smart. I CAN NOT TELL YOU HOW PLEASING AND IMPORTANT IT IS TO READ WELL because someone took years to tell again of the years of their actual life SO THAT one might heal and experience tremendous joy from using the will and mind and spirit and soul to hear Lisa-Jo explain how they weren’t roaring but actually weeping such grief that it was often understood as wild rage.
9. This book is also personal to me, the one writing the review. Though no part of parental abuse ever occurred in my home, though no similarity to running away and repeating parental wounds is a part of my narrative, I still feel so empowered to forgive like was taught to me in this story and I have never forgiven THAT deeply. Now a new level of freedom is mine from moving in this same direction though. Though I never feared a parent, I have seen and feared much, to the point of developing severe PTSD or from being in trauma for a long time- CPTSD. At times, I wasn’t sure I could keep listening but I have wanted to heal strongly enough that I stayed in the safe but hard reading space the author has created.
10. It is a spectacular crafted piece you get to read, first in living this book and then in writing it for others.
Thank you Lisa-Jo and those who got it into the readers hands.
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- Paul Alf
- 05-21-24
Changes trajectories!
I’ve read Lisa Jo for a while now. But, I’m so grateful to have been drawn into THIS story, this message, this healing journey. Her telling matches the beautiful writing in which her family tree unfolds, in all it’s broken, raw, tilled-up places into the hope of healing, forgiveness and change in trajectory for our family lineage. Thank you Lisa Jo for lending us your courage and your honesty. I’m so very blessed.
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- Anonymous User
- 06-24-24
beautifully moving
I was sceptical, being South African... would she capture the depth of this nation? and LisaJo absolutely did. what a great memoir. inspiring and full of hope.
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