Not in It to Win It
Why Choosing Sides Sidelines the Church
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Is it possible to disagree politically and love unconditionally? The reaction of evangelicals to political and cultural shifts in recent years revealed what they value most. Lurking beneath our Bible-laced rhetoric, faith claims, books, and sermons is a relentless drive to WIN!
But the church is not here to win. By every human measure, our Savior lost. On purpose. With a purpose. And we are his body. We are not in it to win anything. We are in it for something else entirely. That something else is what this book is about.
You'll discover:
- How to take a stand the right way. You'll learn how to make your case with a posture of humility and understanding, rather than being fueled by the fear of losing something.
- How to view politics through the lens of faith. Learn curiously, listen intentionally, and love unconditionally.
- How the life of Jesus and his teaching applies to modern-day challenges in a fresh way. The "biblical" stand may not be what we've been taught.
Jesus never asked his followers to agree on everything. But he did call his followers to obey a new command: to love others in the same way he has loved us. Instead of asserting our rights or fighting for power, we need to begin asking ourselves: what does love require of me?
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Best-selling author John Ortberg shares how Jesus' influence has swept over history and how his vision of life continues to impact humanity today. Jesus' impact on our world is highly unlikely, widely inescapable, largely unknown, and decidedly double-edged. It is unlikely in light of the severe limitations of his earthly life; it is inescapable because of the range of impact; it is unknown because history doesn't connect dots; and it is doubled-edged because his followers have wreaked so much havoc, often in his name.
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NOT narrated by John Ortberg, sadly
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By: John Ortberg
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Malestrom
- Manhood Swept into the Currents of a Changing World
- By: Carolyn Custis James
- Narrated by: Diana Batrseh
- Length: 6 hrs and 10 mins
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Malestrom builds on and expands previous books by Carolyn Custis James to explore the idea of manhood, a growing issue both in the wider culture and in the church. Until now the entire discussion has been largely reduced to Western conceptions. Instead James here shows how our culture's narrow definitions of manhood are upended when we consider the examples of men in the Bible and Jesus' gospel.
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Food for thought
- By Britt Sanderson on 06-14-22
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Mirror to the Church
- Resurrecting Faith after Genocide in Rwanda
- By: Emmanuel M. Katongole, Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove
- Narrated by: Jonathan Petersen
- Length: 3 hrs and 59 mins
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In 1994, the most Christianized country in Africa became the site of its worst genocide. The tragedy was in Rwanda, but what happened was a mirror reflecting the deep brokenness of the church in the West. Yet by looking at what happened and why, we can find hope for the global body of Christ.
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Powerful
- By Freddy G on 03-07-20
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The Myth of a Christian Religion
- How Believers Must Rebel to Advance the Kingdom of God
- By: Gregory A. Boyd
- Narrated by: Art Carlson
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In this sequel to his best seller, The Myth of a Christian Nation, Dr. Gregory Boyd issues a clear call to manifest God’s beauty and revolt against evil—with Jesus’ life as our example. Passionate theology and practical insight combine to create a guidebook for simple, radical, Christlike living.
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A great sequel
- By Jim H. on 01-05-22
By: Gregory A. Boyd
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One Blood
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- Narrated by: Calvin Robinson
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We are living in historic times. Not since the Civil Rights Movement of the '60s has our country been as vigorously engaged in the reconciliation conversation. There is a great opportunity right now for culture to change, to be a more perfect union. However, it cannot be done without the church, because the faith of the people is more powerful than any law government can enact.
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John Perkins' GRACIOUS MASTERPIECE.
- By Thom Hazelip on 05-08-18
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Unconditional?
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- By: Brian Zahnd
- Narrated by: Jon Gauger
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Should we always forgive? Is forgiveness always even possible? Does forgiveness enable evil? Does it sacrifice justice? Are there ANY limits? In a world where the ugliness of rage and retaliation are driving the story line, Unconditional? offers the beauty, reconciliation, and total restoration of forgiveness the way Jesus taught us to live it.
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Hope
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Reconstructing the Gospel
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Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove grew up in the Bible Belt in the American South as a faithful church-going Christian. But he gradually came to realize that the gospel his Christianity proclaimed was not good news for everybody. The same Christianity that sang, "Amazing grace, how sweet the sound" also perpetuated racial injustice and white supremacy in the name of Jesus. His Christianity, he discovered, was the religion of the slaveholder. Just as Reconstruction after the Civil War worked to repair a desperately broken society, compromised Christianity requires a spiritual reconstruction.
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Disappointing.
- By Elgin Bailey on 04-01-18
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The First Paul
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- By: Marcus J. Borg, John Dominic Crossan
- Narrated by: Mel Foster
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Paul is second only to Jesus as the most important person in the birth of Christianity, and yet he continues to be controversial, even among Christians. How could the letters of Paul be used both to inspire radical grace and to endorse systems of oppression - condoning slavery, subordinating women, condemning homosexual behavior? Borg and Crossan use the best of biblical and historical scholarship to explain the reasons for Paul's mixed reputation and reveal to us what scholars have known for decades: The later letters of Paul were created by the early church to dilute Paul's message.
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A Liberal Paul
- By Kayla on 05-12-20
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The Misunderstood Jew
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In The Misunderstood Jew, scholar Amy-Jill Levine helps Christians and Jews understand the "Jewishness" of Jesus so that their appreciation of him deepens and a greater interfaith dialogue can take place. Levine's humor and informed truth - telling provokes honest conversation and debate about how Christians and Jews should understand Jesus, the New Testament, and each other.
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Courageous
- By Tad Davis on 07-27-17
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Jesus' Alternative Plan
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Richard Rohr Rohr goes through the teachings of the Sermon on the Mount, explaining the historical and cultural context of each verse and offering guidance for what it means for Christians today.
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Updated Version
- By Anonymous User on 03-30-23
By: Richard Rohr OFM
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David Lynch
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At once a pop culture icon, cult figure, and film industry outsider, master filmmaker David Lynch and his work defy easy definition. Dredged from his subconscious mind, Lynch's work is primed to act on our own subconscious, combining heightened, contradictory emotions into something familiar but inscrutable. No less than his art, Lynch's life also evades simple categorization, encompassing pursuits as a musician, painter, photographer, carpenter, entrepreneur, and vocal proponent of Transcendental Meditation.
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Essential listening for Lunch fans
- By Michael P. Mesaros on 08-14-18
By: Dennis Lim
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- Emery
- 06-12-22
This should be required reading for all Christians.
In this time where we are more polarized than ever, this book explains exactly where he would want his followers - in the middle, bringing people together, not fighting and victimizing one another.
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- Linda
- 05-29-22
A "follower" of Jesus?
Actions speak louder than words or beliefs. The author calls calls anyone out who claims to be a Christian without proof. It will ruffle some feathers, that need to be ruffled. A great read long overdue. ✝️🙏
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- Thomas Coleman
- 07-11-22
Stunning
The most important book of our time. Not really a religious book. But a book that sets the standard Jesus made clear that is not followed by many people today. It is not only what you believe, but what you do.
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- Gil Gonzalez
- 08-04-22
Perhaps the most important book to read this year.
Amazing! Andy Stanley pulls back the curtain on the American Church and shines a light on all the flaws, actions, and activities that are dividing the American Church. This is an exceptional read!
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- Tim Mascara
- 10-01-23
The law of Christ, the way of love.
Stanley captures, with personal conviction, the challenge of bringing a pastor in the last few years. While he shares some of the struggle and pain he and his family have had to endure, he focuses more on calling the church to lean into the law of Christ. This doesn’t focus on a party, rather a person. For long enough we have let kingdoms and practices of this world and culture divide us and define us.
I first found this book toward the end of 2022 when I was taking a short reading vacation. As a fellow pastor, albeit of no near caliber as Stanley, it resonated as he shared the struggles of attempting to lead a congregation during 2020-2022. I believe he has captured in this book some clear and deep truths of what the church is called to based on Jesus and the early church. Thank you Andy for being willing to write this book!
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- Not Your Average Problem
- 03-30-24
This resonated with me big-time.
I'm serious, this book changed my outlook on life, and actually helped me love my neighbors.
Not the ones who agree with me, but you know. The other ones. ;)
It made me not worry about it and am able to release some of that hate, that anxiety, and just love those on the other side of the isle and not take it personally when people disagree with me. It was such a relief to read, and it's brought me closer to Christ by loving my enemies. I couldn't be more thankful that he wrote this.
I've read it twice since the summer. My pastor quotes it all the time, and I bought the physical book to give out whenever anyone I know tells me how hard it is being Christian and keeping an eye on politics. And it's helped everyone. It's easy to understand and digest this really hard commandment and put it into practice and really come to terms with it. 5/5 for sure.
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- Ray
- 06-12-22
Thoughtfully Informing, Inspiring, And Clarifying
Whenever I hear Andy Stanley speak and read what he writes, I feel informed, inspired, and clarified. I appreciate especially how he expresses his convictions as the author- with varying articulation, inflection, and passion. I liked it so much that I immediately bought the Kindle Edition and quoted from it in a large public gathering within days of finishing the Audible version. It’s THAT good.
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- Megan Hockman
- 06-15-22
Letter to the American Church
When reading/listening to this book I can’t help but think of the New Testament - a collection of letters to churches in different regions by church leaders. It is a plea to the American church very similar to those NT epistles. Could not recommend more for any follower of Jesus of Nazareth.
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- 06-30-22
Highly recommended
Andy is a brave prophetic voice, standing at the front of the church of Christ without fear and saying what needs to change. Read this book to strengthen your walk with Christ. Together we can be the change that the world desparately needs. Highly recommended.
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- 06-26-22
Must Read / Listen for Anyone Professing to be a Christian
Andy has done a nice job mapping what we must do as Christians in today’s broken society. He reminds us of Jesus’ law and how to live it by Jesus’ example. Thank you Andy!
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