
The Righteous Mind
Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion
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Jonathan Haidt
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Jonathan Haidt
Why can’t our political leaders work together as threats loom and problems mount? Why do people so readily assume the worst about the motives of their fellow citizens?
In The Righteous Mind, social psychologist Jonathan Haidt explores the origins of our divisions and points the way forward to mutual understanding. His starting point is moral intuition - the nearly instantaneous perceptions we all have about other people and the things they do. These intuitions feel like self-evident truths, making us righteously certain that those who see things differently are wrong.
Haidt shows us how these intuitions differ across cultures, including the cultures of the political left and right. He blends his own research findings with those of anthropologists, historians, and other psychologists to draw a map of the moral domain, and he explains why conservatives can navigate that map more skillfully than can liberals. He then examines the origins of morality, overturning the view that evolution made us fundamentally selfish creatures.
But rather than arguing that we are innately altruistic, he makes a more subtle claim - that we are fundamentally groupish. It is our groupishness, he explains, that leads to our greatest joys, our religious divisions, and our political affiliations. In a stunning final chapter on ideology and civility, Haidt shows what each side is right about, and why we need the insights of liberals, conservatives, and libertarians to flourish as a nation.
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This should give you pause.
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Since I'm not a psychologist, I can't comment on the quality of the research, except to say that I found the presentation of the ideas was clear and very illustrative. Haidt's writing style is very accessible, and whether or not you agree with him by the end, anyone who carefully listens should at least appreciate where he was coming from. By the end, there's perhaps a means to appreciate where other people are coming from.
One major problem was that in his efforts to give a descriptive moral psychology, he ignored the prescriptive aspect. The question of whether or not people see morality a particular way doesn't make that way warranted. Of course Jonathan Haidt knows this, but neglects to mention this until near the end of the penultimate chapter, and even then does little more than shrug at the prospect. That's fair enough as he's not a moral philosopher, but for several chapters preceding that brief mention he focused on trying to understand morality from a neurological perspective - even going so far as to ridicule those current prescriptive theories as being inadequate and possibly the result of Aspergers' syndrome. As the reader this was quite jarring, as he was seeming to make the same mistake Sam Harris did in The Moral Landscape by descending into neurobabble.
For example, much is made of Western Educated Industrial Rich and Democratic (WEIRD) phenomenon of moral psychology where the educated products of enlightenment thinking see the role of moral thought in a very different way from all other societies (and even the poor in their own society). While he makes an interesting case for why moral psychology as a discipline has misfired by focusing on the WEIRD, be doesn't address the inverse case - why some of us are WEIRD? After all, being weird is the anomaly.
If you keep in mind that his account of morality is descriptive rather than normative, then the book reads much better. It's a good account of how to think about how other people think on moral issues, and that is a vital part of having an understanding of where other people are coming from. For that, the book is good. And as far as the presentation goes, Haidt's willingness to describe the diagrams was useful, and him breaking out in song was an unexpected joy.
Hopefully the start of a more productive dialogue
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First there a difference between description, how something is, and prescription, how something should be. The author waits till 3/4 through to acknowledge he understands this extremely important distinction. I think intentionally leading to much misinterpretation.
The author is dinner downright dishonest when claiming Richard Dawkins and Dan Dennet say religion was never adaptive. Likewise group selection is not a thing. And groups of humans including corporations are not super organisms like hives of bees. Maybe those terms were intended as analogies but if so the author again is apparently intentionally unclear.
The author says that religion is helpful or necessary for moral societies. But not for elites such as himself apparently. Which Dawkins, Dennet and most everyone who cares would say religion being adaptive or not is irrelevant to the truth of religious claims. Religious claims which the author avoids like the plague. In fact he defines religion so broadly as to include bowling leagues while calling organized religion a recent innovation not really exploratory of religion...
He tucks away a couple other admissions. Utilitarian ethics based on well being, you know that liberal system he bashes for majority of the book, is the best system as far as actually doing what a system of morality is meant to do. And what primarily distinguishes a conservative from a liberal, sensitivity to threats, ie fearfulness, and a distaste of diversity... Funny how certain things got buried.
Also the terminology like hive and sacred are used for group action, where he is describing a category that would include a mob lynching someone for breaking moral norms he titles community and cleanliness. I'm not saying the hive action is only the worst aspect of humanity but it's included right along with positive examples the author chooses.
Again and again the author frames for a particular effect. One aligned with his ideology.
But this is a great book. That makes excellent observations about morality and how to reach people. Then utilizes that information to underhandedly put forth a particular ideology that has more to do with the author's intuition and tribal affiliation than his rational brain. In other words he proves the thesis of his book by being as irrational as anyone else and looking to exploit your irrationally to recruit you to his tribe
But with all my criticisms and there
Excellent biased book.
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Interesting book, well written and well read by the author.
Interesting Ideas, Well Written, Worthwhile
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Amazing.
A portal to understanding humanity
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May listen again.
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I wish everyone would take the time to read this!
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I know longer see political and religious arguments in the same light. I believe I have been changed by reading this book.
This explains a lot!
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This is way beyond appraisal
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Learned a LOT!
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