Where You Go Is Not Who You'll Be
An Antidote to the College Admissions Mania
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Frank Bruni
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Frank Bruni
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Over the last few decades, Americans have turned college admissions into a terrifying and occasionally devastating process, preceded by test prep, tutors, all sorts of stratagems, all kinds of rankings, and a conviction among too many young people that their futures will be determined and their worth established by which schools say yes and which say no.
That belief is wrong. It's cruel. And in Where You Go Is Not Who You'll Be, Frank Bruni explains why, giving students and their parents a new perspective on this brutal, deeply flawed competition and a path out of the anxiety it provokes.
Bruni, a best-selling author and a columnist for the New York Times, shows that the Ivy League has no monopoly on corner offices, governors' mansions, or the most prestigious academic and scientific grants. Through statistics, surveys, and the stories of hugely successful people who didn't attend the most exclusive schools, he demonstrates that many kinds of colleges - large public universities, tiny hideaways in the hinterlands - serve as ideal springboards. And he illuminates how to make the most of them. What matters in the end are a student's efforts in and out of the classroom, not the gleam of his or her diploma.
Where you go isn't who you'll be. Americans need to hear that - and this indispensable manifesto says it with eloquence and respect for the real promise of higher education.
©2015 Frank Bruni (P)2014 Hachette AudioListeners also enjoyed...
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- How Elite Students Get Elite Jobs
- By: Lauren A. Rivera
- Narrated by: Dina Pearlman
- Length: 12 hrs and 15 mins
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Americans are taught to believe that upward mobility is possible for anyone who is willing to work hard, regardless of their social status. Yet it is often those from affluent backgrounds who land the best jobs. Pedigree takes listeners behind the closed doors of top-tier investment banks, consulting firms, and law firms to reveal the truth about who really gets hired for the nation's highest-paying entry-level jobs, who doesn't, and why.
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Should have been much much shorter
- By Amazon Customer on 10-13-21
By: Lauren A. Rivera
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The Formula
- Unlocking the Secrets to Raising Highly Successful Children
- By: Ronald F. Ferguson, Tatsha Robertson
- Narrated by: Cynthia Farrell
- Length: 10 hrs and 4 mins
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In The Formula: Unlocking the Secrets to Raising Highly Successful Children, Harvard economist Ronald Ferguson, named in a New York Times profile as the foremost expert on the US educational "achievement gap," along with award-winning journalist Tatsha Robertson, reveal an intriguing blueprint for helping children from all types of backgrounds become successful adults.
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would recommend
- By Marcia on 02-25-20
By: Ronald F. Ferguson, and others
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Dark Horse
- Achieving Success Through the Pursuit of Fulfillment
- By: Todd Rose, Ogi Ogas
- Narrated by: Roger Wayne
- Length: 6 hrs and 46 mins
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In Dark Horse, Rose and Ogas show how the four elements of the dark horse mind-set empower you to consistently make the right choices that fit your unique interests, abilities, and circumstances and will guide you to a life of passion, purpose, and achievement.
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If you're anything like me, you have to read this
- By Bree on 11-08-19
By: Todd Rose, and others
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Springboard
- Launching Your Personal Search for Success
- By: G. Richard Shell
- Narrated by: Sean Pratt
- Length: 10 hrs and 56 mins
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Everyone knows that you are supposed to "follow your dream". But where is the road map to help you discover what that dream is? You have just found it. In Springboard, award-winning author and teacher G. Richard Shell helps you find your future. His advice: Take an honest look inside and then answer two questions: What, for me, is success? How will I achieve it? You will begin by assessing your current beliefs about success, including the hidden influences of family, media, and culture. These are where the pressures to live "someone else's life" come from.
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Great book and fascinating perspective on success
- By Austin on 01-07-15
By: G. Richard Shell
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Success and Luck
- Good Fortune and the Myth of Meritocracy
- By: Robert H. Frank
- Narrated by: Robert H. Frank
- Length: 5 hrs and 19 mins
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How important is luck in economic success? No question more reliably divides conservatives from liberals. As conservatives correctly observe, people who amass great fortunes are almost always talented and hardworking. But liberals are also correct to note that countless others have those same qualities yet never earn much. In recent years, social scientists have discovered that chance plays a much larger role in important life outcomes than most people imagine.
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Not what is advertised
- By Andre on 04-18-17
By: Robert H. Frank
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Creative Schools
- The Grassroots Revolution That's Transforming Education
- By: Lou Aronica, Ken Robinson
- Narrated by: Ken Robinson PhD
- Length: 8 hrs and 13 mins
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Ken Robinson is one of the world's most influential voices in education, and his 2006 TED Talk on the subject is the most viewed in the organization's history. Now, the internationally recognized leader on creativity and human potential focuses on one of the most critical issues of our time: how to transform the nation's troubled educational system.
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The Answer to Why Students Stop Trying
- By Alison Sattler on 07-21-15
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Letters to a Young Teacher
- By: Jonathan Kozol
- Narrated by: David Drummond
- Length: 5 hrs and 36 mins
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In these affectionate letters to Francesca, a first-grade teacher at an inner-city school in Boston, Jonathan Kozol vividly describes his repeated visits to her classroom while, under Francesca's likably irreverent questioning, also revealing his own most personal stories of the years that he has spent in public schools.
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A must read for new teachers
- By Santiago on 03-31-10
By: Jonathan Kozol
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Debt-Free U
- How I Paid for an Outstanding College Education Without Loans, Scholarships, or Mooching off My Parents
- By: Zac Bissonnette, Andrew Tobias
- Narrated by: Sean Pratt
- Length: 9 hrs and 54 mins
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These days, most people assume you need to pay a boatload of money for a quality college education. As a result, students and their parents are willing to go into years of debt and potentially sabotage their financial futures just to get a fancy name on a diploma. But Zac Bissonnette is walking proof that the assumption is not only false, but dangerous.
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Too long winded
- By Raquel on 08-06-13
By: Zac Bissonnette, and others
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Whatever It Takes
- Geoffrey Canada's Quest to Change Harlem and America
- By: Paul Tough
- Narrated by: Ax Norman
- Length: 10 hrs and 19 mins
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What would it take?That was the question that Geoffrey Canada found himself asking. What would it take to change the lives of poor children, not one by one, through heroic interventions and occasional miracles, but in big numbers, and in a way that could be replicated nationwide? The question led him to create the Harlem Children's Zone, a 97-block laboratory in central Harlem where he is testing new and sometimes controversial ideas about poverty in America.
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Aboslutely terrific!
- By Anthony on 09-21-10
By: Paul Tough
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The War Against Boys
- How Misguided Policies Are Harming Our Young Men
- By: Christina Hoff Sommers
- Narrated by: Coleen Marlo
- Length: 7 hrs and 24 mins
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An updated and revised edition of the controversial classic - now more relevant than ever - argues that boys are the ones languishing socially and academically, resulting in staggering social and economic costs. After two major waves of feminism and decades of policy reform, women have made massive strides in education. Today they outperform men in nearly every measure of social, academic, and vocational well-being. Christina Hoff Sommers contends that it's time to take a hard look at present-day realities and recognize that boys need help.
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Important Book
- By VeritasPlz on 11-05-18
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Good for a view of how the admissions process favors others, but not a critically-thinking piece
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Great content but don’t bother purchasing if you have heard the podcasts
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- Ursilia
- 04-02-19
A True Antidote
I was rejected from Harvard, Princeton and Duke. This book really helped me that my life didn’t end with those rejections–it has simply begun with them.
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- Free Nibor
- 04-09-19
Eye-opening, profound
This book has helped me so much! I was already leaning toward the conclusions Bruni draws, but his extensive data collection and reporting has helped me be at peace with recognizing the near-scam higher education has become, and will, in turn, help me let my children become the happy people I want them to be. I’ve recommended this to so many people!
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- Anonymous User
- 02-18-23
THIS
Exactly my sentiments, exactly my experience. Many roads lead to Rome, but regardless of the road, hard work is the yeast that raises the dough.
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- Leah Holbrook
- 09-16-22
Terrific
This should be a mandatory read for parents and their kids anticipating college. Frank Bruni delivers again.
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- Robert Kitts
- 11-26-22
Excellent read
Anyone with kids should read this especially if they are in high school and planning to apply to colleges.
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- John Zajaros
- 07-01-15
Excellent!
This should be required reading for anyone beginning the college application process! Absolutely essential listening/reading!
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- AmazonCustomer
- 08-20-15
Excellent advice and grounding
Thank you, Mr. Bruni. We appreciate all your work for this most valuable book. So does our rising high school senior.
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- Amazon Customer
- 04-07-22
Every parent should read this book.
Every parent should read this book. It is geared for families with means but there is a lot to learn in here for everyone.
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- Xmeromotu
- 12-04-19
Required Reading for Parents!
This is a book about why running around trying to mold your child into the perfect college candidate is absolutely the wrong way to parent. About why luck and intuition and, yes, trusting your child are so much more important.
Look at the idiots who have landed themselves in prison for cheating on applications. How different, really, is the mad chase for the “perfect” college. I went to a college I learned about from a brochure they sent me after the SAT. It was perfect, though few have ever heard of it. I still managed to get into a very nice law school. 🤣. Trying to avoid rankings is almost impossible! This is exactly the problem.
Read the book. Your children will thank you.
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- 03-27-18
Very insightful and informative in multiple areas
Really enjoyed it and have shared with others. This is a must read for the college search for students of all ages.
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