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The Next Conversation

Argue Less, Talk More

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The Next Conversation

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From communication expert Jefferson Fisher, the definitive book on making your next conversation the one that changes everything

No matter who you’re talking to, The Next Conversation gives you immediately actionable strategies and phrases that will forever change how you communicate. Jefferson Fisher, trial lawyer and one of the leading voices on real-world communication, offers a tried-and-true framework that will show you how to transform your life and your relationships by improving your next conversation.

Fisher has gained millions of followers through short, simple, practical videos teaching people how to argue less and talk more. Whether it’s handling a heated conversation, dealing with a difficult personality, or standing your ground with confidence, his down-to-earth teachings have helped countless people navigate life’s toughest situations. Now for the first time, Fisher has distilled his three-part communication system (Say it with control, Say it with confidence, Say it to connect) that can easily be applied to any situation.

You will learn:

  • Why you should never “win” an argument
  • How to assert yourself and communicate with intention
  • How to set boundaries and frame conversations
  • Why saying less is often more
  • How to overcome conflict with connection

The Next Conversation will give you practical phrases that will lead to powerful results, from breaking down defensiveness in a hard talk with a family member to finding your own assertive voice at the boardroom conference table. Your every word matters, and by controlling how you communicate every day, you will create waves of positive impact that will resonate throughout your relationships to last a lifetime.

Everything you want to say, and how you want to say it, can be found in The Next Conversation.

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“Jefferson Fisher combines his unique expertise and extraordinary ability to distill evidence-based approaches into easy-to-remember tools that work the first time and every time toward more effective dialogue. His work and this book stand to positively transform the way that you relate to others. Embracing the knowledge in The Next Conversation will vastly improve your life.”—Andrew Huberman, PhD, professor, Department of Neurobiology at Stanford University School of Medicine, creator of the Huberman Lab podcast

"We all have difficult people in our lives and we all need to have difficult conversations. Knowing exactly what to say when the pressure runs high is where we get stuck. No one is better than Jefferson Fisher to show you how to start. The Next Conversation gives you the tools to change your life, one conversation at a time."—Mel Robbins, #1 New York Times bestselling author of The Let Them Theory and host of The Mel Robbins Podcast

"A special book that will show you how to approach every conversation and negotiation with confidence and clarity. Jefferson Fisher has spent years learning how communication really works, and he is the real-world guide you need for your difficult conversations in the boardroom and at home. If you are a student of what makes people tick, you need this book."—Chris Voss, internationally bestselling author of Never Split the Difference and Founder of The Black Swan Group

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very applicable

Jefferson has a remarkable way of taking real-life situations—ones we’ve all experienced—and turning them into valuable learning moments. Whether it’s a miscommunication, an argument, or a simple discussion, he shows how these moments can become opportunities for connection and understanding. His insights are not just thought-provoking but also incredibly practical and easy to apply.

Beyond that, his approach to communication is truly transformative. He teaches how to speak with confidence, showing the power of words—not just in getting your point across but in commanding attention and ensuring others truly listen. His work is both insightful and empowering, making it a must-read for anyone looking to improve their interactions and self-assurance.

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Common sense advice

I loved it and wouldn’t recommend it to everyone whether you’re looking for someone to help you with communicating with other people.

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This guy is spot on!!

What an amazing book about how to have controlled conversations.
A must read for everyone! A+++

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A must read!

Jefferson makes real and relatable! I loved it so much that I also ordered the print copy so I can make notes as I listen…again! New nuggets with each listen!

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Thank you!

To cut all the fluff, all I can say is thank you. This was worth the wait, and everything I had hoped for. I will be sure to come back for re-listens frequently, I am sure.
Thank you for sharing all your wisdom with us, I appreciate you putting this book together more than I can say.

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Concrete Information

Just long enough! It’s what I expected! I recommend this book! I will listen to it again!

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This book teaches people like me

Learning from Jefferson felt natural. The world would be better place if we all spoke to each other with honesty and respect.

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Great Book!

Love this book! I have trouble communicating effectively this book is a great tool/ resource to improve this. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, experience, and wisdom!

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A Vital Resource to A More Heart Centered Humanity ❤️

Jefferson's book is a beautiful reflection of his heart centered approach to being a wonderful human. The way he remains focused on a state of connection throughout times of conflict is a trait the entire world is in dire need of. This book is a wonderful resource to help guide others to leading from the heart to a greater more unified humanity.

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Everyone can benefit from this

I liked how applicable everything was within this book. The story telling was great, the analogies were spot on and the advice is concrete! I’m glad I found your channel a while back!

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